Not defending him but he’s spineless but def not an asshole
Um.... He didn't want anyone to know about their relationship cuz he's ashamed. Made his bf apologize to someone for something he never did and didn't even ask the whole situation before doing so. And they just started their relationship.
Just because we have his brother as the devil incarnate himself as a comparison does not make Junghwi any less of an asshole.
But again, not condemning him or anything lol
Idk if it’s him being ashamed or he’s just not out yet and coming terms with his homosexuality. Bc he’s not ashamed of parading their friendship so I think don’t think that’s the issue. You’re right about him making his bf apologized for something, he’s a coward and he should’ve stood up to what is right, but I don’t think that makes him an asshole either, that just makes him a doormat and he didn’t want to start a conflict within the group.
Junghwi is a sweet guy, He’s just very people pleaser. He bought the main character gifts, the hand lotion twice, he tries to take care of the main character when he has time like picking up when he’s drunk or just bringing to him into the group since we saw the main character is very antisocial. Not pushing for anything sexual when they first hung out alone, even though it was obvious, he probably wanted to do something, and not been getting mad when the main character was acting weird for the first hang out, saying that he thought about someone else when he was acting intimate with him.
I’m not talking about the current Male lead or even comparing them I’m just slowly talking about jungwhi and how he’s not an asshole even without the comparison of ML
If he's not out yet or still confused of his homosexuality, then maybe he shouldn't be in a relationship.
If he apologized for something he didn't do for the sake of avoiding conflict, THAT'S a doormat. But he made another person apologize for something he didn't do, forcing him to just suck it and bow down. What's worse is he's not a stranger, he's the MC's friend (much more boyfriend). That makes him an asshole in my opinion.
He bought gifts for the mc because he wants to get on with him, it's not entirely innocent gifts. And not pushing anything sexual to him on their first few days as a couple is literally the barest of the minimum any decent human being should have. It's not special.
I'm not comparing Junghwi to the ml. I'm just saying that Junghwi only seems sweet because we're reading an extremely toxic manhwa and we unconsciously compare them without meaning to. Outside of this story, he's just an indecisive asshole who couldn't make up his mind before being in a relationship with someone else.
Haha I do not understand why u want him to be perfect so bad. He’s human. Why should he not be in a relationship with MC just bc he’s not out? Stop acting like everyone can just come out easily, is MC even Out? No right? That’s what I thought. They are Korean, I doubt LGBT is welcome. I’ve been in secret queer relationships before bc whether it’s family situation, or area that is not safe for me or I’m still confuse on who I am and exploring that does not mean I don’t deserve to be in a relationship lol
With the asshole thing, I still disagree but ig that is just the different in our perspective. That older man yelling at MC seems to be a big mouth, he probably didn’t want MC to get into much trouble and also avoid conflict. It sucks that he didn’t talk to MC about it but yes he a pussy. And honestly, I feel like he would’ve done that with anyone, even if it was his brother that was next to him or a family member that was getting confronted. He not bold and I’m not excusing his actions but that doesn’t make him an ass
Not everyone is buying their crush gifts, it’s not the bare minimum imo, he was also attentive and knew MC hand get dry easily. Yes he was pursuing MC, so there is an underlying intention but that doesn’t make it malicious. He just like him. I do agree the sexual thing was bare minimum but still u didn’t combat my argument about him being patient w MC, even tho MC was obviously being spacey and thinking about someone else. And the other times he take care of MC or his little brother. He is a nice dude.
Tbh I think u just have a hidden bias for ML, although I like the toxic one more, I am not going around calling someone who is just a pushover an asshole. I think u r being harsh tbh.
First of all, I never wanted him to be anything, much less perfect. I stated my opinion and left it at that. You're the one who reasoned out so I replied with a light hearted intention of bantering with other commenters. I don't know why you have to point this out. I see why now. Because you relate to him.
Well then, I for one do not mean to offend anyone, LGBTQ+ or otherwise. I called him an asshole specifically because of what he made the mc do (bowing down to apologize for something he didn't do) and only elaborated after you mentioned a few other plot points in this story. Nothing more.
Again, calling him an asshole is my opinion (as I mentioned in my other replies), you are welcome to disagree.
His other actions of pursuing the mc may or may not be interpreted in another manner. I repeat, you are welcome to disagree. And yes, the mc was being spacious and Junghwi was patient (because consent should be obvious).
I am not biased in anyone on this manhwa. I called the ml a bunch of unsavory words, including but not limited to: rapist, jerk, crazy asshole (yep), devil, demon, m*therfucking sh*t. I just happen to mention Junghwi in this particular comment because the ml being the rapist jerk that he is, is no longer a novel thing.
Again, I am not here to offend anyone and just stating my opinion. After all, this is a comment section.
I think you're the one with a bias here. Please don't push your opinion on other people and insinuate that opinions other than yours are "harsh" and "biased".
LMAOOO no no, now you’re just speaking out of your ass. I do not know why he decided to hide his relationship, it’s what YOU perceived. I responded to the fact that YOU again think that ppl that hide their relationship apparently don’t deserve to be in a relationship, that’s your BIAS. Also you never answered me about how the MC is also not coming out with his relionship, is he an asshole? No rigth. That’s what I thought l. That’s the only thing I think is “harsh”. The world isn’t simple and black and white and you can just be queer simply
Maybe it’s true I have a bias, but not towards him, I actually very much rooting for the ML. I do not also relate to jungwhi or let ppl step all over me. What I am stating is you talking out of your ass and blaming ppl are assholes bc they do no fit your perspective of high justice ppl. Your opinion is harsh sweetheart, you berate this dude for the most smallest things.
You can’t deny that your interpretation of his is WEAK, saying his character can be up to interpret but what is there to interpret? This is not some complex chanracter. He was a nice guy with a crush but is a pushover yet everyone Dissect his character because they have it unconscious bias towards male lead. Sorry I said what I said.
since u are allowed to say your thoughts, so am i
Now you're just getting more rude by the minute. I never claimed that people who hide their relationship does not deserve to be in one. You're reaching, is what you're doing. I said that if he's CONFUSED about his SEXUALITY, then maybe he shouldn't be in one. I said that because it's only gonna hurt both people in the relationship if one of them is confused by their own sexuality, much less feelings. I never said that they don't deserve to be in a relationship.
I never defended the mc either. You have a habit of drawing hasty conclusions and treating them as if I SAID THEM. I DIDN'T. There. A bunch of that things you're pissed at are from your far-fetched conclusions you pulled out of your ass.
And the question you claimed I never answered? You answered it yourself. "The mc no coming out, is he an asshole? No right?" Where's the question? You already answered it and is clearly not looking for one. "that's what I thought". Yeah right.
You're the one talking out if your ass making assumptions and then gunning your mouth (or keyboard) without second thought.
There you go again. Calling other people's opinion that doesn't agree with yours "harsh" and calling people sarcastically "sweetheart" as if that would make your claims valid.
I'm not one to look for trouble nor do I have the habit of fighting online like some keyboard warrior, so don't drag me into your self interpreted argument please.
You can call him a nice guy for all I care. I can call him an asshole. Deal with it.
Blah blah, you talk out of your ass, weak claims. It’s so funny when ppl get mad cuz I call them a pet name. You obviously can’t deal with my opinions either. Whatever, you’re just some loser who thinks that if ppl aren’t morally justice and saving the world, they’re assholes. I hope you think about yourself more weirdo
Wow, that's rich coming from someone who berates someone else for having an opinion different from their own. You're the one who can't deal with other people's opinion without throwing personal insults at them. You can't even argue factually, what did I expect.
My opinion about Junghwi was first an extra character, to a good senior, then changed to asshole. Might change it again after a couple of chapters because (surprise!) opinions can change.
I'm not going to lower myself to your level. Have a good day. (〜￣△￣)〜
Ok
Miss judgmental weirdo, hopefully when u interact with real ppl you don’t judge them to hard bc they don’t fit your conception of kindness
Mr. Making Up Their Own Interpretation, I hope when meeting real people, you won't pull conclusions out of thin air (and base your whole argument with it saying it's a "fact") and rave about it like your sanity depends on it ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Says you making weak claims and being delusional and spreading your theology on others, I thought you told me to have a good day yet you’re still here
Sorry you’re just wrong and had baseless thoughts and claims and someone called u out on it
You're delusional, saying I said things I never did and getting angry about it and proceeding to insult me
"Theology" lol, I just stated my opinion in less than a sentence and YOU came here barking lolol. Plus, why shouldn't I be here? This is my comment lol. Grasping at straws are we?
"Baseless"? More like it's a comprehension problem on your end, maybe it's a You problem lol.
Saying other people's opinions that doesn't agree with your opinions "wrong" speaks more about you than about me lmao
Nahhh some opinions can be wrong and yours is. Just keep on yapping. No I just find it funny that you wanted to be morally superior on a BL manga, claiming someone is an asshole bc they didn’t fit your perspective.
Also claiming that ppl shouldn’t be in relationships if they’re confused or not out. Honestly you’re the asshole here.
Again miss yapper here with baseless thoughts. Your name suits you bc you don’t have reading comprehension to save your life. Perceiving things black and white … have a good day and tried to be the bigger person yet is still here …
Lmao you're funny, no one is claiming moral superiority here, especially in this manhwa lolol. We're on a pirate site on the internet, what you're talking about is just bizarre and immature lol. Stating my opinion about a certain situation the character has been on does not equate to everything I stand for. Lol you're funny holding that like it's my philosophy in life. We're commenting on one latest chapter at a time in this manhwa lmao
If anyone's the yapper here, it's you, casually overseeing things I said and focusing on the ones that are convenient for you.
"Claiming someone is an asshole bc they didn't fit your perspective" lol back at you. Are you sure you're not talking about yourself?
I clearly explained that being confused with your sexuality will hurt those in a relationship and thus said MAYBE they should not be in one. Never said they shouldn't in be in one AT ALL. Just said "maybe" implying it's an opinion lol. Reading comprehension goes a long way, but you got off early lmao. It's a skill issue.
"Perceiving things black and white"? Lmao in THIS manhwa? No one with such perceptions would even read this type of manhwa. Lol what a clown
There are no wrong opinions, only unfounded ones. Calling other people's opinions "wrong" blatantly shows how narrow your perspective is. You're the baseless yapper here.
It's clear it's you who don't have reading comprehension to save your life lol. Back at you, Mr. Only My Opinions Are The Right Ones
I then yours is an unfounded, baseless, delusional, projective one. Cook ok?
I love how you use all my combats. Like everything I say, you’re just like no you
Junghwi is a spineless asshole