Well Kaoru(Cop) admitted that he stAlked him since his first year of high school. He may not have talked with Naoto but he already wanted to protect him because he fell in love at first sight. So he wanted Naoto to only look sad because of him and not bc of the senpai. So since he is very smart and a great cop he knew about senpai actually being a delinquent so I guess Kaoru got into senpais way when he wanted to use Naoto in order to protect him from looking sad bc of senpai again. Cause yeah Kaoru is actually a pretty fucked up guy xD
I hope I could kinda explain it to you and now you understand it better? Yeah (づ￣ ³￣)づ
yeah i already got all of that, but it was made out that the first time he saw naota was with the depressed face after he was told that sempai was dropping out of school and getting married, so that would be when kaoru fell in love with him i would assume. but it was also made out that once the sempai dropped out of school naoto didnt see him again until just before he was kidnapped.
I dont know, maybe im getting the timeline wrong or maybe its just not that important.
But Thank You for replying anyway
Senpai - 3rd year
Naoto - 2nd year
Kaoru - 1st year
So falling in love with Naoto after hearing about senpai leaving during third year and being able to prevent senpai using Naoto fits.
What if senpai tried to make contact (shortly after leaving hs) while Naoto was in 2nd or 3rd year and Kaoru stopped it?
We were told that he was stalking him since Kaoru's 1st year and that he became a cop to protect Naoto.
They did meet, senpai and Naoto, after HS, I think. If I remember correctly, Naoto stopped or didn't steal as much as he did before because Senpai showed up, though Naoto was caught in the act of conning someone. Kaoru, during their sex scene, asked if meeting Senpai changed Naoto, to which Naoto didn't respond, after sex, Kaoru realized that after all he did and even during sex, Senpai was all Naoto was thinking. So yeah, I think they met again.
That was right before the story started years after senpai left high school.
We're discussing about between that time because senpai said that he wanted to make use of Naoto during high school but that the brat kept interfering.
Yes, that's exactly what I meant. They did meet after HS but before he was arrested or before he met Kaoru again. And Kaoru knew that Naoto and Senpai met again since he confirmed that during the sex scene. It was senpai's second attempt to get him into his business only I don't know how it was stopped, rather how Kaoru stopped it.
Ah. I see what you are saying.
So you are saying this is the 3rd time that senpai has tried to get Naoto involved with bad things.
In HS he was blocked by the brat. We only know of this because senpai told us about it.
Nearly six months ago (about when Naoto met up with senpai again) he was swindled into the trap. Since Kaoru was in contact with Naoto's parents it could be theorized (since he has the recording) that he set Naoto in this trap with his family's help. Thus preventing another attempt by senpai to get Naoto involved.
The third time, he was able to get him involved because of the part-time job and kidnapping Naoto.
I'm just wondering how the 1st attempt went down and was blocked.
Yeah, I guess. I just based it from what Kaoru said and cried after they had sex. It just didn't seem like Kaoru was referring back in HS, he was saying after HS. Sorry if I was confusing.
Good question, how did it happen in HS? I wonder. I imagine that maybe Senpai was about to be blown off because of Kaoru, so Senpai had to lay low for sometime, thus keeping Naoto around was useless for the time being. Senpai got back into business after a few months but again didn't succeed to include Naoto. Then the third attempt happened.
Ah.
Right. For Kaoru he was talking about the recent run-in Naoto had with senpai. But it was senpai who brought up how Kaoru blocked him from using Naoto back in HS.
Maybe this is when Kaoru got in contact with Naoto's family? Tipped them off about senpai? Maybe he tipped the cops off about senpai? Or the pregnant girl's family? Had senpai move away?
I wonder if senpai only got back into the business or if he's been a scumbag the entire time? Only his wife divorced him recently because she got tired of his shit? So he ran into Naoto got the idea of using him again, but Kaoru busted Naoto. So that went on the back burner and he found a convenience store job. Then what does he know Naoto walks into his place looking for a job just as the drugs thing is getting ugly.
I wonder how long senpai KNEW about Kaoru shacking up with Naoto. Perhaps he went looking for Naoto and figured out that Kaoru had him? Or maybe it was only after Naoto returned to his home and he was being tailed?
I'll go with "scumbag the entire time" probably in the drug trade since the start of HS or worse since middle school. And tailed Naoto since he went back to his parent's house, rather someone tipped senpai and tailed him since. Naoto got skills beneficial for Senpai, so he wants him badly.
oh i just had a thought!! okay so the first time that the sempai met naoto was when he caught him shoplifting in high school, he said he wouldnt tell anyone and he seemed to accept naoto for who he was, but what if that was all a set up to gain his trust?? it wouldnt have been hard to find out what kinda family naoto was from and to peg him as a good scapegoat to pin the drugs on. So the sempai spends time with him growing closer while being aware that naoto is falling or is in love with him.
And so another part of my theory is . . . what if there was no marriage??? no baby? and the reason he dropped out of school was because of the drugs? maybe he expected naoto to be so in love with him that he would follow him, and he didnt expect that the face that naoto pulled after finding out about the marriage would attract Kaoru and kaoru would start to interferre with his plans. I also think this because it would explain why we never saw the wife or child and why sempai was coinsedentaly newly devorsed when he came back in to naotos life and why he was suddenly so interested in having a relationship with naoto ( a man, so soon after a divorce) when he had shown no interntion of having a relationship with him in high school.
That's what I'm thinking. He probably called one of his guys to follow Naoto as he left the store and then by watching it for a while they could realize it was the same apartment as the cop's.
Maybe it wasn't so much a set up but him tailing Naoto until he could catch him in the act and win his trust. Then he just groomed him and he noticed that Naoto was in love with him and he planned on using that.
Well, the way he told Naoto was more of a goodbye than will you follow me.
I wonder if the pregnant girl was a mark. Like she was from a prominent/rich family and he knocked her up to get married to get her money? He did seem to leave HS like he hit the lotto.
I think senpai got divorced shortly before running into Naoto the first time. He probably didn't mention it then because he was thinking he would have more time get Naoto but then Kaoru captured Naoto.
Which is why when nearly 5-6 months later he jumped the gun and told Naoto he was divorced and he knew about the crush and he wanted Naoto. Because he didn't want Naoto to disappear on him again and it's right when he needed him most as a scapegoat.
well im a little confused! in the scene where naotos high school crush kidnapped him and said something along the lines of, i wanted to use you for something like this in high school but that brat kept getting in my way. he said this after refering to naoto being kept by a cop, so you would think he was talking about the cop right?
but at the start of the manga to cop admitted that they had never even spoken before and that he fell in love with him because of the face be pulled when his crush dropped out of school and got married.
So i ask you, when did the brat (cop in high school) start protecting naoto?? and why? and how?