And i can't blame him for it.....
Honestly, being tortured to oblivion and him viewing her like that is what saved him from turning traitor or possibly getting killed. He was stuck with that mindset for so long it messed up his mind.
WHAT HE NEEDS IS THERAPY
BADLY.
True, but I can still blame him. He tortured an innocent. He's accountable for that. If someone in our society had a hard life but hurts someones' to the point of them almost dying, they are held accountable. You many understand he needs therapy, but , in this story, he got accolades. He rose to the top. And I find so many in the comment section still don't blame him for choosing to hurt an innocent because he was hurt.
Don't worry, I'll blame him for the both of us.
To be honest I don’t necessarily hate Heiner, I can feel sorry for what he experienced in the past, while still holding him accountable for what he did to an innocent person (I don’t think that ignorance is an accomplice, you may disagree but that’s just my moral opinion). I didn’t say whether I blame him for being fucked up or nor. I can UNDERSTAND why he became that way, and I can also understand that he used her as something reminiscent of a goddess to keep himself sane. I’m not saying I don’t and that I blame him for that. It’s something his brain did to protect him, human brain deletes memories and creates a separate identities to protect us, idealizing something isn’t the most outlandish thing it can do. However, it’s just like I can understand a neglected, abused child can become a perpetrator or a serial killer. Still, I wouldn’t excuse his actions and wish for an abuser to end up with his victim just because I feel sorry for what he experienced in life.
Ah, don’t get me wrong though, I’m not coming after you, we all relate to characters in different ways. I just found it confusing how you jumped to defend Heiner and insinuated I don’t have understanding for his actions. I think I only stated how his feelings towards FL and the way he perceives them is messed up, I didn’t say that there is no excuse for it. I just thought it was a nice wake up call for him. The “you don’t know her” thing - because to start working on yourself you need to understand where you went wrong and he refused to look at himself critically, stuck in the blame for FL.
Thiiiiis. Like he broke her and she wanted to die, twice she tried. But still people are like feeling bad for him after all that. NGL I don't care about his backstory, why because of all the pain he inflicted on her. Honestly how is any of this her fault the ones to blame are her dad and those in power. Her being a woman and one of nobility was not gonna allow her to know what was going on. Her dad was not about to let her know and if she knew he would not let her do anything about it. She had not power then and no power now. The publice wanted someone to villiainise and blame she was the last one left so they all went for her.
Exactly.. Commenters want to hold her 'accountable' because she was ignorant of what happened.. They excuse her being treated cruelly because she was hated by the populace that hated her dad. What kind of f'd up thinking is that? Mob thinking, is what it is. If a hundred people hate an innocent person, does that make them guilty? It does not. Simple.
Yesss you and the commenter bellow brought out a point that’s been bothering me so much!!! What’s with the double standards? People become the way they are not only trough trauma but through their upbringing in general. They understand ML because of the his past but blame FL for being ignorant? She was ignorant because of the way she was brought up, just like ML became a shitty person because of the way he was brought up. She was sheltered by her father, and if you don’t see or suspect that anything is wrong with the world, you won’t actively search for the faults. Did they expect her to investigate her father who was so good to her and go against him? Plus the existence of nobility was normal back then. That’s why it was only after it fell that she realized how privileged she really was, and that maybe it wasn’t a good thing. Just like right now the existence of 1% billionaires is normal and maybe the society in a few hundreds years will look back at it and think - yeah it was kinda fucked up that people with so much power existed. The difference between ML and FL is: she never actively wanted anyone to suffer. And after being disillusioned and acknowledging the suffering that her father and nobility brought upon people, she realized her own ignorance and decided to work on herself to become a better person.
Woah, a civil discussion, im going to cry here
Also for more clarification, I don't blame the female lead, and in fact in full support of her leaving the male lead. Because i truly believe that the man is not in a good headspace right now to entertain a romantic relationship with her, especially, with his astronomically incorrect view of her.
On our current latest chapter, i can still see he hasn't dealt with his feelings properly just yet and still obsessed with the female lead.
But it's good that he knows what he did wasn't right and accepted that the female lead's need to be away from him.
Because he knows she is miserable when she's with him
It may have took her to suicide for him to see what he has done, but atleast he is trying to give her something to live for,
Just not with him in the picture.
At first Heiner just idealized the shit out of her and then, when she didn’t reach his deluded expectations, he thought that through the disillusionment, he saw the real her. But the truth is - even then, he still didn’t see her for who she was. He went to the other extreme and started to villainize her. The hole after every positive trait he was disappointed she lacked, he filled with a presumption of a negative one. So he never got to know the real her, he refused to ever see her as who she was. And yet, he was the one ridiculing the depth of her feelings and doubting her sincerity. Such an irony. She was the one who always stayed true to herself and her feelings, who naively but earnestly believed others, who accepted the blame, reflected on herself - and he was the one who kept lying to himself and justified himself through those lies.