Nacchan is wrong here BUT I still haven't moved on from when Issei pushed him to answer a ...

Jade_D September 6, 2024 4:56 am

Nacchan is wrong here BUT I still haven't moved on from when Issei pushed him to answer a phone call. That was cold. I know it's work and it's important but they just confirmed their mutual feelings after so many years. I admire and respect Issei for working hard and pursuing his passion but I can't connect with him.

Also, I think it was a little selfish that he unburdened himself by confessing and then cutting his best friend off from his life. Without thinking how his best friend must have felt after being left alone.

I feel like if I were Nacchan I will doubt the depth of Issei's feelings. He might just cut me off again because his passion is more important than his love for me (like in that phone call scene).

I agree with the comment below it's okay if they don't get together. They have different priorities. And Nacchan should focus on himself and find a way to quit that job and find something (another job, passion, or hobby) that he loves. I think a warm and empathetic partner would suit Nacchan more.

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    dreamedtheirlifeaway September 6, 2024 5:28 am

    I think you described it really well. I don’t think he had to have declined the call or anything, but I can’t say I wasn’t startled when he shook him off like that. I was also a little off put by him just cutting contact cold turkey like that. Just because you graduate doesn’t mean you have to never contact people you enjoyed spending time with afterwards (??) I found it to be strange. It did feel a little like he didn’t want to put an effort in making the relationship last and just cut contact because it would be easier that way

    On the other hand, Nacchan could have *definitely* spoken about his work troubles in a much different way, e.g. saying smth like seeing Issei do what he loves is making him have second thoughts about what he wants to do for a living, it’s inspiring to see him be able to enjoy his work, etc etc instead of just disregarding his efforts. Assumptions are never the right way to go about things, especially if there’s the possibility of hurting a loved one. It’s best to ask if you’re the only one who has felt that way, or if the other person shares the same struggles that you’re going through

    thesealinermk1 September 6, 2024 6:36 am

    here are your flowers bc you explained this so well

    Itzel September 6, 2024 12:27 pm

    This was such a good description, exactly what I was thinking (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

    Jade_D September 6, 2024 2:54 pm
    I think you described it really well. I don’t think he had to have declined the call or anything, but I can’t say I wasn’t startled when he shook him off like that. I was also a little off put by him just... dreamedtheirlifeaway

    "It did feel a little like he didn’t want to put an effort in making the relationship last and just cut contact because it would be easier that way"

    -Yes, and if you think about it being successful in the music industry and having his feelings returned by Nacchan are both difficult, almost impossible things. But he was able to put effort and pursue music but he chose not make an effort to listen to Nacchan first or pursue him. It feels like he doesn't love Nacchan that much. Then the author put in that phone scene which kinda points out to him prioritizing music over everything.

    -I totally agree with you on Nacchan's fault. He hates himself for being unable to break free from the job he hates and was feeling inferior to Issei who was able to do so. That's why he said those hurtful words which I think isn't really what he felt. It's his inferiority complex and jealousy talking. He was totally in the wrong in that scene.

    -Author really needs to work on showing how these two love each other because right now I can't feel it. Their individual stories and circumstances are written good but love is missing.

    Jade_D September 6, 2024 2:56 pm
    here are your flowers bc you explained this so well thesealinermk1

    Thank you for appreciating my comment, hehe. Here's a four-leaf clover I wish you good luck this week.

    Jade_D September 6, 2024 2:57 pm
    This was such a good description, exactly what I was thinking (๑•ㅂ•)و✧ Itzel

    Hehe, thank you. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this way.

    dreamedtheirlifeaway September 7, 2024 5:13 am
    "It did feel a little like he didn’t want to put an effort in making the relationship last and just cut contact because it would be easier that way"-Yes, and if you think about it being successful in the musi... Jade_D

    Absolutely, I can’t really feel the love between the two either. Instead it feels more like they were glad to have their regrets relieved, to not have their first love end in such a way (one-sided, the other without saying a word).

    Currently it doesn’t really feel like they love each other simply because I can’t convince myself they know enough about the other person to love them. They might have known each other really well when they were younger, but they need to get to know each other as people (and now as adults) again before they start to date.

    They need to talk about what happened during the time that they were apart, the struggles they went through, new things that they found interest in, etc etc. For me if feels a little like they started to date a stranger who went by the same name as a person they used to know (maybe a little bit of a hyperbole but you get the point)

    Jade_D September 7, 2024 6:25 am
    Absolutely, I can’t really feel the love between the two either. Instead it feels more like they were glad to have their regrets relieved, to not have their first love end in such a way (one-sided, the other ... dreamedtheirlifeaway

    I couldn't have said it better. "It feels more like they were glad to have their regrets relieved". Exactly.

    Yes, they're like strangers dating. The person they fell in love with in high school has changed a lot. They should've reconnected as adults first before getting into a relationship.

    Ugh, we can all see this manga's great potential. I really hope the mangaka would be able to write well how they'll reconcile and understand each other. We need to feel the love. It's a love story afterall.

    AbstractioShay September 7, 2024 9:13 am

    I guess I'm a lot like Issei when it comes to people. I'm tunnel-visioned in life so easily forget the people around me and this includes close family like siblings etc.

    I can actually relate very much with Issei and I don't really see anything wrong with what he's doing. He does care and love Nacchan, but he won't give up the things he's passionate about for it. Like his friend said, "it's like a switch turned on in his head when it comes to work".

    Jade_D September 7, 2024 9:38 am
    I guess I'm a lot like Issei when it comes to people. I'm tunnel-visioned in life so easily forget the people around me and this includes close family like siblings etc. I can actually relate very much with Iss... AbstractioShay

    I, myself, get in the zone when I'm hyperfocusing on my job or art. There is nothing wrong with that until you hurt your loved one with your inattention or coldness. There's a way to balance it or to prioritize which is more important and let go of the other.

    The phone scene was put immediately after they confessed their mutual feelings after so long. They were in the middle of being happy about it and it was so abrupt. I just think the author wrote it like that for a reason, probably as a preview of a future plot conflict related to priorities. But that's just my theory.

    Sky September 16, 2024 12:22 am

    I agree with everything you said specially about if they didn’t End up together at the end, I think it’s the better choice
    Specially after the Way Issei pushed him to answer a phone call that’s really shocked me and disturbed me he “is the love of your life“ You’ve been in love with him for the past six years and he just confessed to you and was hugging you for the first time after you’re feeling is mutual and then you pushed him for a phone call. I know that his work is important and I like how dedicated he is to His music, but couldn’t you just wait like Two minutes!?? complete the hug I mean come on it’s not like you’ve been dating each other for while , it’s after the confession that’s what disturb me. because of the difference between them how isse Is a person who prioritise His music job above his loved one and I think Nacchan Would want to be with someone who put him first and that’s okay because of that I think that they should not end up together. It’s better if they stay friends or acquaintance..

    Nacchan Is wrong How his jealousy explode because he’s stuck in a job That’s he is not passion about and I can sympathise with him a lot of people work jobs that thay don’t love, but we have to work

    It’s first for me that I wish the couple don’t stay together ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    Jade_D September 17, 2024 2:36 am
    I agree with everything you said specially about if they didn’t End up together at the end, I think it’s the better choice Specially after the Way Issei pushed him to answer a phone call that’s really sh... Sky

    Exactly. He's "the love of his life" and what happened at that moment was something of a miracle (he met Nacchan coincidentally after cutting him off for years and it turns out Nacchan loves him too). Any other person would praise the Gods if it happened to them, lol.

    It's very rare of me to be okay with BL couples not getting together, even if the story is toxic. I think we feel this way because the author wrote Issei in a way where he seems somewhat cold. We only know he had a crush on Nacchan for a long time but his actions does not match. We can't connect with him.