i've tried yo

URLOCALWEEB August 24, 2024 11:44 pm

everyone online was hyping this manhwa up, so i was like 'yeah, i'll check it out' and i love the art but i'm kinda confused ? like everyone on like tt and everywhere kept saying ' oh skylarxcirrus is so cute!' like they're this amazing couple, and while they do have chemistry, ... tbh they're kinda toxic? AND I'VE TRIED SO HARD TO LIKE GET PAST THAT like, in my opinion, cirrus keeps like gaslighting and manipulating skylar

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    URLOCALWEEB August 25, 2024 1:47 am

    BUT I DO LOVE THE COUPLE, IT'S JS A FEW MAJOR FLAWS

    akane006 August 25, 2024 1:55 am

    The same happened to me, I guess it's just not my cup of tea, even though they're a great couple the plot is not so appealing to me

    ballsjiggler August 25, 2024 6:36 am

    yeah, i understand your point and i feel like many fans have been sugarcoating their toxicity overall. at the end of the day, this IS a psychological manhwa and not just about their romance so it's supposed to be this flawed. i'm glad that you picked it up tho and you should really stick to this even tho every new chapter makes me wanna kms

    Nobodyhome August 25, 2024 7:59 am

    How is Cirrus gaslighting/manipulated Skylar?! When he actually poured his heart out to him and Skylar isn’t the one talking about his past to Cirrus so that Cirrus can also feel reassured?!!!!

    Ellie August 25, 2024 8:33 am

    Well, Cirrus only knows how to manipulate and gaslight. From the start we saw how he faked his "good-guy" mask. I'm not sure how their relationship will evolve, it could end good, with Skylar and Cirrus healing their past traumas. Both of them had an extremely wrong way of coping, so I hope that together they may heal and end up in the "healing" trope.
    But... even if it ends "bad", I wouldn't complain. The story is extremely complex and slow, leaving with many questions (especially because we have to wait a week or more for more informations). We got Cirrus backstory and trauma after chapter 90!
    Both of them have their flaws, and that's what I like of this story. They're more "human"(?), they feel more real, as no one is perfect in real life. Their characters are built really good, and they manage to be annoying even as a protagonist.
    I'm not excusing Cirrus for anything he did, he acted bad almost evil, he is a bit of an as****e, but from the first chapters he came a long way... even though he still have fits of rage sometimes- ( ̄へ ̄)
    Well- sorry for the long comment haha^^"

    PanDeBono August 25, 2024 8:40 am
    How is Cirrus gaslighting/manipulated Skylar?! When he actually poured his heart out to him and Skylar isn’t the one talking about his past to Cirrus so that Cirrus can also feel reassured?!!!! Nobodyhome

    i mean if we’re talking just recently, he went into his phone to delete chan-il’s message and lied to him about it, continuously tried to push him to act like a couple in public despite him saying no many times, yelled in the hallway where anyone can hear about their relationship and said shit like “chan-il approached you out of pity, he thinks you’re a loser”, and so much more

    now this isn’t to say skylar’s perfect, he’s 100% not, but cirrus has done a lot of fucked up shit to him in their relationship so far. i mean the beginning of their friendship started w cirrus blackmailing skylar w the photos he had. but they’re both very interesting and enjoyable characters

    Nobodyhome August 25, 2024 9:01 am
    Well, Cirrus only knows how to manipulate and gaslight. From the start we saw how he faked his "good-guy" mask. I'm not sure how their relationship will evolve, it could end good, with Skylar and Cirrus healing... Ellie

    I think u got it totally wrong...u got Cirrus’ past after 90 chapters?! Wtf? Cirrus’ backstory was all S2 Ending bad?! Again wtf! The author herself said it’s a happy ending and the couple stays together! Wtf are u reading?! LITC is a simple and done well coming of age story.

    Nobodyhome August 25, 2024 9:02 am
    i mean if we’re talking just recently, he went into his phone to delete chan-il’s message and lied to him about it, continuously tried to push him to act like a couple in public despite him saying no many t... PanDeBono

    But that was in the past as Skylar’s stalkerish tendencies were. We are talking about the present here and if Skylar had talked a bit more about his past Cirrus wouldn’t have been so anxious

    Ellie August 25, 2024 12:43 pm
    I think u got it totally wrong...u got Cirrus’ past after 90 chapters?! Wtf? Cirrus’ backstory was all S2 Ending bad?! Again wtf! The author herself said it’s a happy ending and the couple stays together... Nobodyhome

    I meant the part where they explain what happened to him with the teacher. I didn't know that the author said that, so it's good a good news to me.
    The way I see this story... the storyline is pretty simple, but the characters are very complex. Cirrus has many different issues, one is being a manipulator, because he's scared of losing Skylar. He deleted some messages he received, or he's extremely jealous almost possessive when Skylar is with that orange boy (I can't remember his name)
    You can't deny that both of them have some problems that add toxicity to their relationship.
    Thank you for telling me what the author confirmed, I was scared it may end badly between them.

    Nobodyhome August 25, 2024 1:31 pm
    I meant the part where they explain what happened to him with the teacher. I didn't know that the author said that, so it's good a good news to me.The way I see this story... the storyline is pretty simple, but... Ellie

    I don’t see it as “toxicity” though. The author already explained that she wanted to make 3D characters bc u also said I quote they are “complex” characters and that’s exactly bc they aren’t your stereotypical BL characters they feel more human! We ad humans aren’t divided in green or red flag that’s an absurdity. Each one of us has some “red” features and “green” being mixed together that’s what makes us US. And this is what Paskim wanted to make her characters Cirrus and Skylar feel like too.

    akane006 August 25, 2024 4:30 pm
    yeah, i understand your point and i feel like many fans have been sugarcoating their toxicity overall. at the end of the day, this IS a psychological manhwa and not just about their romance so it's supposed to ... ballsjiggler

    Your comment made me realize exactly what isn't working for me! This is more about the psychological part and not so much about their romance (even though they have some interesting couple development). I guess I was focusing on the wrong aspect that the author was trying to convey, which was why I wasn't enjoying it that much. Thanks for your analysis ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    Ellie August 25, 2024 9:36 pm
    I don’t see it as “toxicity” though. The author already explained that she wanted to make 3D characters bc u also said I quote they are “complex” characters and that’s exactly bc they aren’t your ... Nobodyhome

    Yeah, that was what I was trying to explain! They have flaws, and are "complex". But still, in some way, the possessiveness of Cyrrus can be seen toxic, or at least I see it in that way. I'm not saying it's a bad thing (unless it evolves in violence); I just would like to see also how they both try to heal their traumas for the other's sake, yk?
    Cyrrus suffered an enormous pain after what happened with his parents, especially that bitc-y father, and he probably won't ever heal completely.
    I didn't want to divide them in red and green flags, I'm just such a lover for the "healing trope" hahaha.
    I read only a few manhwas with such great characters "builds", so I guess I'm still going in the different stereotypes
    This is all to say, that we're on the same page lmao, I'm thinking the same, just... I'm not good at wording it

    Nobodyhome August 25, 2024 10:42 pm
    Yeah, that was what I was trying to explain! They have flaws, and are "complex". But still, in some way, the possessiveness of Cyrrus can be seen toxic, or at least I see it in that way. I'm not saying it's a b... Ellie

    It’s okay.

    URLOCALWEEB August 26, 2024 7:39 pm
    yeah, i understand your point and i feel like many fans have been sugarcoating their toxicity overall. at the end of the day, this IS a psychological manhwa and not just about their romance so it's supposed to ... ballsjiggler

    i'm gonna stick to it cuz ik it's gonna have a happy ending also cuz i kinda love skylar's character

    URLOCALWEEB August 26, 2024 7:41 pm
    Well, Cirrus only knows how to manipulate and gaslight. From the start we saw how he faked his "good-guy" mask. I'm not sure how their relationship will evolve, it could end good, with Skylar and Cirrus healing... Ellie

    OMG I LOVE THIS TAKE SM UR ACC SO SMART

    URLOCALWEEB August 26, 2024 7:42 pm
    i mean if we’re talking just recently, he went into his phone to delete chan-il’s message and lied to him about it, continuously tried to push him to act like a couple in public despite him saying no many t... PanDeBono

    ik both their characters aren't perfect but tbh that's kinda what makes them realistic and enjoyable

    URLOCALWEEB August 26, 2024 7:46 pm
    It’s okay. Nobodyhome

    i mean, i get that their complex but, if you think abt it, their supposed to be complex, everyone is, while i don't think cirrus is toxic, some of his actions have been. like him deleting the mssgs from chan-il, like, and i get his jealousy and the complexity behind it. in a real relationship tho, that wouldn't have been right. I get what you're saying tho!

    Ellie August 26, 2024 10:43 pm
    OMG I LOVE THIS TAKE SM UR ACC SO SMART URLOCALWEEB

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