i'm genuinely conflicted

riss August 24, 2024 6:10 am

seth and horus remind of me of the hot dad wolf and baby potato, y'know? i am morally worried to watch seth turn from guncle to boyfriend :|

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    Mwahaminimi August 24, 2024 7:39 pm

    I meant to down vote. Because... Why are you here if you're not here for th obvious couple in the cover?

    riss August 25, 2024 5:18 am
    I meant to down vote. Because... Why are you here if you're not here for th obvious couple in the cover? Mwahaminimi

    Thanks for asking: i was here initially (and still) for the interesting plot and initial competition thing because of the enemies to lovers. Now for the romance, unfortunately... it's feeling more incestuous with every single 'uncle' and how Seth treats Horus as a child.

    Seth sees Horus and incompetent and infantile, he doesn't really see him as a god or mature adult. Additionally, Horus still primarily calls Seth 'uncle', which doesn't bode well. We've been at this for 166 chapters and nothing has changed. I don't know how much longer this is going to go for, but considering that it's been a real slow burn, I would love to see some change in character dynamics starting soon. Unfortunately, I have a bad feeling that the plot will finish with little thought for the romance, so the 'couple' will be rushed and there will be little development or time for perspectives to change.

    Mwahaminimi August 25, 2024 4:37 pm

    Bare with me for this is very long:

    This story isn't an enemies to lovers. That's what Seth thinks, until Horus clarifies that he was never his enemy, and only fought him because of his mother.

    When has Seth seen Horus incompetent in S2? In all S1, yeah he did. Seth was an incredible powerful god, so of course he saw everyone beneath him. And in all honestly, Horus isn't the most mature in some aspects. Horus is very "life" smart but not when it comes to love and handling his desires, he's not very mature. He's very stubborn, jealous, needy, and neglects his responsibilities, but that's what makes him a great character in the sense of being the perfect individual that CAN be there for Seth. Seth needs someone who is as stubborn as he, Seth needs someone to rely on and someone who looks up to him --proving that he isn't alone in the world and never will be alone anymore. Seth has been hated for thousands of years, he's been lonely, scared, and unhappy. Seth needs someone who willing to neglect his responsibilities in order to be there for him and protect him when he can't do it alone.

    Seth is slowly learning, even if it's frustrating, that he needs help right now in the story. When he's tried to do things alone, it's been bad news for him and bad things happen to him.

    Horus is there to help Seth with his atonement, at least to hold him and keep him from disappearing or when Seth is unable to come out of those episodes when he's is being overpowered with those souls. Horus is not giving Seth a pass for the malicious and evil doings he did, but he is the only one knows that Seth at heart. That Seth is a kind and loving individual who's hurt yet strong. So, with being the only one who knows this, Horus desperately feels that being with Seth and following him is the best course of action. Horus loves him and cares for him.

    Horus knows what it's like to be a demigod, and Seth doesn't have any blessings from any god, so that makes him an especially weak demigod, he knows what it's like to be sick and weak, and do Seth it's all foreign. But I understand that Horus isn't perfect. He's a little overprotective and a wee bit too jealous, especially when it comes to Anubis. But that's his immaturity coming out. By being overbearing and overprotective, Seth isn't getting his dignity as a man and as a past god, and thus he becomes more stubborn in wanting to be independent.

    However, with that said, Seth doesn't want any help and needs to learn to accept some help because he can't do it alone, unfortunately as I mentioned earlier. Calling him uncle isn't a big deal, to gods who aren't human it's natural, I think for Horus it's just a term of respect, endearment, and yet another thing that shows his desperation to be close to Seth, emotionally and physically.

    Anyway, so now about the Lore which is WAY MORE FASCINATING THAN I COULD HAVE EVER IMAGINED! Idk if you've heard of the hieroglyphs and the story behind them. But the author has been hiding spoilers in the hieroglyphs of the story. Many many things have happened in S2 that were in the hieroglyphs of S1.

    One of the biggest things is that Horus had a past life and the fandom decided to call him Horus the Elder (HTE.) Horus and Seth were brothers and Seth killed him. Isis took HTE's ashes and put them in her belly/womb and forgot, so when she had a child with Osiris, it can to be the current Horus.

    The questions to this: why did everyone forget? How does no one know about HTE? Why did Seth kill him?

    In the lore, it says Seth was very upset and Nephthys was with Seth and comforted him.. Perhaps, she really did love him and decided that for peace, she would be with him, thus explaining why she did end up marrying him.

    In the lore it says Ra wants to consume HTE to gain power. It says Ra loves Hathor romantically, and when Hathor loved a human that she wanted to become human, and Ra made it possible. Something happened that Ra became jealous and created the mirror. Don't quote me on that though. I'd have to go back and look.

    In the lore it says Seth will feel betrayed or hurt by Horus after falling in love with him. Seth will gouge out his eyes. In mythology so much of this stuff did happen this way, and Thot healed Horus eye. In this story, it's believed if this happens, Horus will remember his past life.

    In this story it says Horus will almost marry Hathor. (we hope it's Seth who stops it)

    Here are some links to the translation to the hieroglyphs, read up on some of this mythology because it's all so fascinating and it gives us clues of what might happen!

    Mwahaminimi August 25, 2024 4:43 pm

    Idk if you knew all of this, but I decided to tell you in case you didn't know.

    Mwahaminimi August 25, 2024 4:55 pm

    Sorry about some grammer errors. English isn't my first language. Also, I get too excited and forget to go back and check my auto corrects and correct them.
    One thing I wanna correct:
    "Horus knows what it's like to be a demigod. Unfortunately, Seth doesn't have any blessings from any god, so that makes him an especially weak demigod. Unlike Seth, *Horus knows what it's like to be sick and weak, and to* Seth it's all foreign."

    Also, with all of Horus' imperfections I think it gives him room to grow, and /if/ and /when/ he remembers about his past life and possibly becomes a god, he will be matured and grown.

    riss August 26, 2024 1:15 am
    Bare with me for this is very long:This story isn't an enemies to lovers. That's what Seth thinks, until Horus clarifies that he was never his enemy, and only fought him because of his mother. When has Seth see... Mwahaminimi

    Thank you for sharing, and don't worry about any errors, I understood it all very well.

    One main thing I noticed in S2 literally comes from Ch166, when Horus grabs the jewel and Seth calls him an idiot, both in his head and to Horus's face. That's what sparked my initial comment because it makes it obvious that the level of maturity and experience the two have are vastly different. It introduces a weird power dynamic to the ship that not many people discuss, likely because Horus is an infant by comparison.

    That said, you're definitely correct about the intricacies of Egyptian mythology. Like many other old religions, it is riddled with incest; that doesn't mean I have to like it, or that it should be retold this way.

    When the author is clearly picking and choosing which parts of the myths to portray accurately, I don't see a reason why they should continue the incestuous nature of the ship by having Horus call Seth 'Uncle'. It could be harmless, but it could also be like a 'daddy' kink– I'm praying we both agree that would be weird.

    Now, to be frank... I'm uncertain what to make of having Horus be Seth's brother in a past life. That is wholly dependent on whether Horus and Seth remember or are aware of that; if they do, then being willing to fuck your brother will actually cause me to drop this story, despite how wonderful the plot is and how gorgeous our lord and savior Jezeus is.

    Mwahaminimi August 28, 2024 6:26 am

    "It introduces a weird power dynamic," interesting you say that because I didn't see that way. I just saw it as Horus being careless and impulsive, and that matches and is consistent with his so far character. He is hundreds of years younger than Seth, but they're gods and demigods, they're rules don't apply to human standards.
    Seth calling him an idiot is not any different from me calling my partner an idiot for thinking mixing each with ammonia to clean is a good idea.

    I think keeping the incest is just being consistent with and wanting to keep it as close to the mythology as well because that's the story people know them as. Horus and Seth being brothers in the past is no different from Isis marrying Osiris and Seth marrying Nephthys and all of them being siblings. It's a weird concept and if I stop and think about it too hard, it is very weird and I get the heebeegeebeez. But I just have to remember it's about mythological gods that humans created with stories that involved incest. People are weird and their imaginations are weird.

    ANYWAY! I think Horus calling Seth "uncle" all the time is, one, the author using Korean language and culture to mesh a little with the story and that's a whole discussion on language and terms of respect etc. But I think it also reflects Horus' desperate attempt to want to be close to Seth. Seth finds him annoying, but is finding out that he like his presence. He has a childish, less serious nature, to him many times, and it makes Horus kinda cute sometimes. Lol. However, Horus doesn't give Seth a pass for his sins and instead is there to hold Seth up when he's all alone in the world and always has. It takes a certain kind of character to be loyal and stubborn enough to stay despite being pushed away over and over.

    Seth hates being seen as weak, but he's been alone bearing his feelings alone by bottling them up inside. Horus is facilitating and making Seth open up more and share his feelings.

    If you want to drop the story and stick to your thoughts and opinions of this story, by all means, do so. :) I was just sharing some things and seeing if perhaps it would change your views on the story after I had pondered it for hours and hours. Lol

    Have a good day though.

    riss August 31, 2024 6:03 am
    "It introduces a weird power dynamic," interesting you say that because I didn't see that way. I just saw it as Horus being careless and impulsive, and that matches and is consistent with his so far character. ... Mwahaminimi

    Thank you, just wanted to let you know that I'm too fatigued to continue replying, but I've read through your response and really appreciated this discourse :)