Hm

I hope you understand the time and location this story is taking place in

Is it back in the 90s or early 2000s? And my point still stands, I’ve seen way too many stories about couples breaking up cause they overheard something about their partner wanting a kid (manga mostly), no communication (idrc about this as much). No consideration of adoption either.

Yes, in Japan. We are talking about Japan, not another country.

Nobody said another country, clearly it is Japanese. There are many who adopt in Japan. There are adoption centers in Japan. Japan isn’t some otherworldly country that can’t think about adoption.

You said it yourself. It's fiction, of course people would break up over something like that, because it's fiction.

No shit. But people break up over these in reality ans well. Exactly, because it’s fiction, why is it so hard to consider adoption? Why is this a common trope? Yeah it’s just to add some angst, but it can be tiring. Sucks that someone had to be hurt/in pain all because the other couldn’t communicate and broke it off.

Anyways, don’t take my comment so seriously, I’m just expressing myself along with some rhetoric questions. I am aware this is in Japan, we are all literate here, I hope.

Some people just want to see more of adopted kids in stories, and that’s perfectly fine. I do not hate this story, it’s cliche but satisfying read besides some stuff.

Nonetheless, I appreciate your input. What you said makes sense, it is fiction so of course people will follow the common trope of misunderstandings. It just won’t prevent authors from having a couple adopt a kid or taking that into consideration, is one of my point. So I do hope to see stories with these in it.

Anyone who comes across this comment is free to recommend me some stories with a gay couple who adopts a kid.

Fiction can make it happen but clearly that isnt what the author want. The author want to build story based of japan real life law why are you so pissed about it ?? ╥﹏╥

You can read 'Boku no Papa to Papa no Hanashi' or 'Papa x papa'. They are so fluffy and cute!

Yeah no worries, I get what you’re saying.

Can’t a reader express themselves? And Japan doesn’t have a law that prevents gay couple from adopting, there have been cases of gay couples adopting in fact (and based off friends in Japan). But I know it isn’t widely accepted and seen as disgusting in society of Japan.

That’s why, since it’s fiction, might as well consider adoption and let go of the common cliche tropes!
I’m just expressing how I feel, I’m not forcing anyone to think like me or forcing the author to change it.

Just hoping there would be a different approach in future stories! ^^

Oh and to be clear about the law, I’m not saying that gay people can freely adopt. No, not in all parts of Japan, but in some regions of Japan they can. But iirc, I don’t think Japan allows gay marriage so they can’t be recognized as legal guardians of an adopted kid, that’s the issue.

But since it’s fiction, why not?

Thank you! I’ll check them out.

I get the point you are trying to make. One reason you aren't seeing more adoption as an option in stories like this be it hetero or gay romance is not just laws prohibiting gay people from adopting but CULTURE and NOT JUST Japanese culture but Asian in general be it Korean etc. etc. Adopted kids are commonly viewed as “someone’s else's kid” or “not their real kid” Even if adoption is clearly an option they wont even consider it! It’s Blood relation over everything - they are taught this, and even then in the case of adopting a nephew or cousin whose parents have passed away they are still seen as “taking care of someone else's kid” or adopting them so other people dont look at them “badly” for not wanting to take them in the first place when they come from outside that particular family’s household. While ALL aren't like this - it’s STILL VERY common. So authors don’t commonly address it or even make it a reality in their fictional stories because a lot of them don’t even think like that. It’s backward and not up to date considering adoption is literally an OLD and VERY COMMON alternative to just being childless when you want children in a relationship but it is still a thing for them in these countries of slow “SOCIAL PROGRESSION” like japan. Its unfortunate because like you, I also think the same thing, just adopt especially since gay people literally adopt each other in japan to get on each other’s “family registry” - they can adopt a child as well into the family registry but on paper mostly as a brother or sister etc and not as two same sex parents, it’s tricky for gay couples to navigate this topic in japan unfortunately.

You make a good, no, great point. I’m Asian myself and my own parents say biological children are more special, it’s sad. But since it’s fiction, I hope to see more of mangakas considering adoption. I don’t think all Asians think this way, especially if you’re 1st generation or younger. A lot of things that are cultural in reality are broken in fiction by Japanese authors, as well as stereotypes, so I don’t understand the adoption issue.

I am only hoping for it to be more occurrent. There’s a lot of manga authors that write stuff that aren’t accepted in culture, so this shouldn’t draw a line at adoption. I understand that many authors do not hold a mindset for that to happen.

Lolz don’t remind me about the partner adopting their partner just to be seen as family, that’s fucked up shit. I haven’t seen this happen in Japan, but I know someone that went through it, they didn’t make it through since their family were about to cut them off and telling them to just live as they don’t know them.

I know there are some mangas that already have adopted kid and stuff, but I hope there’s more I haven’t read and more in future. I enjoy those stories a lot, and usually they aren’t fucked up. I’m someone who reads Harada’s stories and others, but time to time I need fluffy or almost any story with adoption involved.

If you’re reading Harada then yes you need to reset that mind and SOUL with some fluff. That mangaka’s stories are good but hard on the heart imo lol. Im not Asian but i’ve lived in Asia - japan and korea with long stays in Cambodia for visiting family, dated Asians(thankfully I have been welcomed-in by their families), and have asian family members married in so more extended members of my family so i’ve seen this mindset up close, and its unfortunate. Your point of “its fiction” is very true and valid, if you’re writing the story then you can create the world were adoption is normal, accessible option for ANY type of couple…they just need to think bigger and further really plus it makes for a better story imo. All children are special when they are happy healthy and not cruel (like the bullying kind). Biological has nothing to do with that. That made me sad to read but like you said that touched on my point unfortunately

Actually my parents don’t mind adopting, but they think biological is superior. My mom wants to foster if she could, but fucked up part is that she told me she can earn money while fostering—it feels weird idk.

And she told me that if she would adopt a baby forever, it would only be a girl (she got sick of boy children, she and my brothers argue a lot. She talks about how they can rely on us, two sisters. But she never realizes it’s the way she and dad raised my brothers; making them grow entitled and bratty while girls do chores).

Yup, Harada’s stories are just fucked up and weird as hell, but I do enjoy reading at times.

This is why I tend to read Harada’s stories, I feel like Ican just let everything negative out, like morally wrong thoughts.

But I definitely need fluffy. I read Life Senjou No Bokura, I ended up crying, I got tricked. If you haven’t read it, please do. That shit is so nice, just the godly amount of angst and forever eternal love. I need someone else to cry.

“she can earn money while fostering” this part is not uncommon in America where i’m from. Its common for people to foster children for money and it’s not a completely bad thing BUT you have to treat them well and care for them and not neglect or abuse them in any way, that might of sounded crazy coming from your mom but she treats them well then its okay. Unfortunately a lot of people like the money but dont care about the children they are technically responsible for. So foster families can be unhealthy, dangerous, and horrible while some are good. I have adopted family members and they aren't treated or referred to differently at all not even grouped as “adopted” they are just family and thats it. But thats also the way my culture (AA) generally is - whether you are adopted, step, half, third cousin once removed (lol) you’re simply family thats it thats all no “superior” no “less than” - just family. I’ve read Life Senjou No Bokura and its one of my favorites and the first I ever gave a 5 star rating for and the first to ACTUALLY make me teary. So well written! I’ve reread it twice. It gets me every time - it tricks you but in a good way. If you aren’t reading “our sunny days” do yourself a favor and RUN to it. Green flags and fluff all the way season 2 just started but season 1 is everything (●'◡'●)

https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/our_sunny_days/