You can’t just say I’m wrong and then proceed to say another version of what I said. First of all you brought in horror movies and then said something like if a director puts murder in a horror movie does that mean they like murder? So I gave you an example that’s comparable and takes nuance into account and then you proceeded to say the same thing I said and then idk, is men’s suffering in sexual assault not supposed to be taken seriously or smth? Is that why it’s prolific in yaoi? Why is yaoi held to different standards? Seth’s suffering in these overblown scenes is shown in a distasteful and sexualised way like how those directors portray sexualised rape. Are you saying you can’t cross examine different types of media? When you are the one that brought horror movies in to this comparison in the first place? Here it isn’t trying to normalise or justify rape, neither are those directors who portray rape, it is instead sexualising it and trying to show a narrative that says the victim enjoys it or it portrays the suffering in a way for people to get off to, ie, sexualised rape.
Now, if a person draws sexualised or fetishised torture, yeah, they may have a torture fetish. Why? Because the intent behind portraying these two scenes is different. Torture depicted that actually is vital to the story and has a reason to be there to move the story along vs sexualised torture that has another more creepy purpose. Same goes for gore vs sexualised or fetishised gore.
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Lmaooooo, idk either, I think this has been going on for like 3 days
No, that wasn't a "cope", that was an honest speculation. Argue all you want with the other person but don't offend me and drag me into it, please. It is enough to say you were not convinced by my argument
Omg noooo you are right, it was an honest speculation, I’m sorry about that. I thought no one was reading this thread anymore except the other person, this was out of line, I respect your opinion. But truly, does he call Nephythys aunt? Or Hathor great aunt? Or any of the other elders great aunt or great uncle? Because that is how everyone is related based on the family tree that was shown in the first few chapters. He deliberately only calls his parents, mother and father, Seth, his uncle, Nephythys isn’t even called aunt, neither is any other god called a familial name, and even Hathor calls the sun god mother despite Ra not believing in familial relationships between gods.
You reading the whole thing is your decision. Mind you, before going through the whole chapter, there is a trigger warning or notes at the very top. If you still choose to proceed, then it's already a YOU problem.
The thing is, chap. 144 only says kid Horus read Isis' old letters exchanged with *Seth*, NOT her letters with Nephthys or anyone else... Horus says to Seth in chapter 144: "Besides those cravings (depicting records of your victories as the guardian god who protected Egypt, in the walls of my mother's temple) I ALSO read the letters you and my mother exchanged, It seems she stored them in the temple to keep records of the weapons and military strategies you both devised. The reason I wished for you to reconcile... was because I knew of your relationship."
In other words, that Horus only found his mother's letters with Seth, which means, he only ever got to learn about the past familial relationship between his mother and Seth, not about her relationship with Nephthys or anyone else: the letters and her temple's carvings only depicted how the Isis before Osiris' death had a brocon affection for her "little bro" Seth, they didn't include Nephthys (probably because she didn't work together with Nephthys as much as she used to work with Seth). In one of the censored chapters that gives a PG-13 version of this story appears a different scene that I don't think was included in this "mature" version (the one we have access here): it is a flashback of when Isis had just heard from Nephthys that Seth had gone to confront Osiris after learning Anubis' was his bilogical son, and Isis made the decision to go there in order to stop Seth from trying to fight Osiris, since he'd only get manipulated by him. Isis said something about: "Stupid little bro, always rushing head first and not thinking things trough, and since he didn't even try to consult with me first, this impulsive move is only going to succeed in getting himself manipulated by Osiris YET ANOTHER TIME!" So, back then, she saw him as her beloved little bro. And that was due to the special relationship she had actively built with him, not merely because of their biological relation.
...And Ra? How could Isis have ever called her grandmother or whatever, when she has ALWAYS distrusted her because she knows Ra tried to prevent her and her siblings all from being born, due to Thoth's prophecy that "the children of Nut would destroy Egypt"? Isis never allowed Ra to get close. Besides, she also distrusted Ra because she was aware that Ra disliked her own husband, Osiris (even if she was mistaken about WHY Ra disliked him: she thought it was because Osiris had dethroned Ra, when the real reason was that Osiris was secretly turning Egypt into a desert, which is explained in chapter 35. That distrust for Ra caused Isis to equally distrust all the other deities around Ra (Hathor and co.) since when Hathor gives the mirror to Horus, Isis says not to trust Hathor and her gifts, since Ra must be behind them. As for Isis' own parents, Isis was not close with them either, since she says to her father Geb in chapter 64: "Why did you intervene? You were never fond of humans, NOR OF ANYONE ELSE BESIDES MOTHER, for that matter", implying her father never paid much attention to anyone besides his own wife (and Seth says the same thing about their mother Nut, in chapter 160). So yeah, that's how we know
That's why I said, before, that Horus calling Seth uncle is because of Isis' inluence: both the influence of her temple's carvings and of her letters, together with the fact that they lived DIRECTLY among humans while Horus was growing up, and even pretending to be humans, so what's so strange about a human-raised Horus adopting the humans' way of thinking about family members, and that having read his mother's letters with Seth, Seth is the only one he recognizes as an important family member of his mother?
To sum up, that aside from mere blood bond, the degree of good, bad, or nonexistent relationship these relatives and family members have with one another, and how they actually *feel* about any particular relative, DOES affect how they address one another, and that when they call each other "mother, father, uncle, etc" it can be either on a personal level, or on a formal one (or BOTH): on a personal level, it's to express an actual closeness they feel towards that particular relative; on a formal one, it's to ask collaboration in recognition for being deity from the same territory (Egypt) and/or family or clan as the one they're talking to (meaning, "I'm not a foreign god, I'm also a god from Egypt and I'm your son, nephew, etc, so please grant me attention, hear me out, and cooperate with me!)"
1) Seth tried to rape Horus, Horus then raped Seth.
2) Horus then SA’d Seth multiple times after.
3) Seth, even till this point in the story, seems to be asexual and disinterested in sex, with any gender. He might even be aromantic. Sex seems to be a means to an end, to create a family. The one kiss he gave Horus was because of an overwhelming wave of emotions, grief, sadness, relief, etc. It was not sexual. Kisses aren’t always sexual. If they do end up together in a sexual relationship, it would disregard everything we’ve seen about Seth, even before he met Horus. That would be inconsistent and would warp the story to fit an ending that I do not think fits.
4) Horus still calls Seth uncle. WHY ARE YOU CALLING YOUR SUPPOSED LOVE INTEREST UNCLE? Some real Freudian shit is going on here.