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Stop. If you go back to where I initially commented as 'Truth and Trust' and click the link, it will take you to my profile under the name 'Morning Diamonds 10/7 is right.' This is my profile. The second 'Truth and Trust' is a cyberstalker who stole my identity, and I changed my name afterward. I have shown that I have only one account here, which has undergone a name change. The second 'Truth and Trust' is not me. The last time I checked, they still had that name.

Regarding the question 'Why Jinx of all manga?'—this is the first time I’m seeing that question. Someone was attacking others and others defended the targets. Now, the protectoes are being attacked and lied about. I am standing and protecting them. Once again, people are not Jinx. Why are you making this Jinx?

You are telling me this for how you are targeting me and how you are deflecting.
People can disagree. It is normal. However, you are not disagreeing with me.
Have you read your comments to me? Read them as if someone sent them to you. You will see personal attacks, mockery, condescension, dismissal and false accusations. It is wrong to treat people like this.

https://www.mangago.zone/home/people/3690382/

This is the cyberstalker ^
They, at this time, still have their name set to “Truth and Trust.

We want to make it clear that we do not share the views or beliefs of those pretending to be us. We are not affiliated with them in any way and do not condone their actions, perspectives, behaviors, or false narratives.

This is my first comment and when you click the link or respond to my comments it would say “morning Diamonds 10/7 is right.”

https://www.mangago.zone/home/people/3699209/
This is the only profile I have on Jinx. My main account is not going to be on Jinx. I made this to defend my friends.

Again personal attacks where?? I only ask questions. In regards to "defending your
friends" i made this thread directed at no one and you came here yourself also considering I've seen you under comments/threads that mildly criticises Jinx I don't think "defending your friends" stands. Again, I will ask the question you are avoiding: why jinx of all mangas?

Hey [Morning Diamonds 10/7 is right],

I see that the discussion has really shifted away from the original topic, and it seems like the focus has moved from the content of “Jinx” and the broader discussion on fictional portrayals to personal attacks and misinformation. It’s unfortunate that the OP has ignored the points about cyberstalking and has continued to redirect the conversation in a way that seems unproductive.

Here’s a summary of what’s been happening:

Fiction vs. Reality: The original discussion about “Jinx” and its portrayal of non-consensual elements has been overshadowed. It's essential to remember that engaging with fictional content doesn’t mean endorsing real-world behaviors. Fiction often explores challenging themes to provoke thought and provide insight, and people engage with it in various ways.

Cyberstalking Issue: Despite explaining the situation with the cyberstalkers multiple times, it seems that the OP has dismissed these concerns and instead focused on personal attacks and misleading narratives.

The OP’s Approach: It appears that the OP is not engaging in good faith. They’ve dismissed your explanations and have avoided addressing the factual points you’ve raised. Instead, they’ve redirected the discussion in a manner that seems designed to provoke rather than engage constructively.

Given these points, it might be worth considering whether continuing this conversation is productive. It seems like the OP is not interested in a genuine discussion but rather in deflecting and creating conflict. You’ve made your points clearly and addressed the relevant issues, and it’s important to recognize when a discussion has reached an impasse.


If you feel it’s no longer constructive, it might be best to step away from the conversation and focus on more productive engagements. Sometimes, moving on can be the best way to preserve your energy and avoid further frustration. I don't see this being productive as you did answer the OP's question but they dismissed it and pretended you were ignoring them. It seems they made it about them instead of listening to you. They have been giving you the run around here. I think it is in bad faith. Their topic here has been in bad faith since the beginning.
I suggest not to anwser them while they are being unreasonable and making things up.

Hello [definitely not a alternative account of morning Diamonds is right and truth and trust etc]
I am going to clarify a few things:

My original topic stands. It is my opinion and I am entitled to it, just as you are entitled to yours.

Fiction vs Reality: The fiction vs reality became overshadowed because I do not agree with you and your "cyber stalker" bot friends showed up. Again I am allowed to disagree with you.

Cyberstalking: I don't see what your cyber stalking has to do with me. I have shared and seen controversial opinions on this site (ie, love is an illusion comment section) but i have never seen any other instance of "cyberstalking" someone on this site which is why i "dismissed it". I'm sorry it's happening but that's not really my problem.

The OPs approach: I repeat. I am allowed to disagree with you. I do not agree with the points and links that you raised as i thought they were biased and do not consider counter arguments. That is OK. There is nothing wrong with us having a difference of opinion.

I'll add another topic,
My Question of why Jinx: Jinx is not the first manga to have rape/sexual abuse/whatever and sadly won't be the last. I asked the question because there are HUNDREDS of mangas on this website that contain such themes, so why not defend another comic instead? If your "friends" are reading Jinx then surely they are reading one of these other comics? When i asked this question of "why jinx" you could have said anything: ie, "because i like" the characters, the art, the boxing etc. The fact you continue to not answer this question while commenting on pretty much every other comment that mildly criticises the manga yet paint me as "deflecting and creating conflict" is very interesting...

I do agree we have reached an impasse. But don't make it seem as though I am the one being unreasonable for disagreeing with you. its quite embarrassing...

Hi Yumiswife,

I initially intended to communicate only with my friend, but given the direction this conversation has taken, I’d like to address a few important points to clarify misunderstandings and promote constructive dialogue. My friend misunderstood your question about “Why Jinx,” so let’s clear up a few things:

Constructive Dialogue: I respect your right to your opinions, but for a meaningful discussion, it’s important that we rely on factual evidence and mutual respect. Accusations about connections to bad faith actors are counterproductive and only escalate tensions.

Misidentification: There seems to be confusion about our identities. I am not my friend, and while my friend has two accounts, the second account is not involved in the “Jinx” discussion. We are not connected with any cyberstalking activities or fake accounts. Your claims about this are based on misunderstandings and don’t reflect reality. My friend has explained this several times, and continuing to misidentify us only reflects poorly on the discussion. It’s important to recognize when an opinion might be incorrect.

Disagreement and Facts: It’s clear that you disagree on several factual points, but this disagreement should be based on facts and evidence rather than assumptions. For example, Jaekyung being an MMA fighter, not a boxer. But if we correct you, you would want to still use boxer and be incorrect. You are not disagreeing with us as you think. We have not posted an opinion. We are ground on facts and evidence. You are disagreeing with facts. We are not those facts. This is not an opinion vs opinion.

This disagreement should be based on accurate information, not assumptions. We are discussing facts, not opinions, and correcting misinformation is crucial for a constructive conversation.

Cyberstalking Warning: My friend mentioned cyberstalking to inform you that there might be impersonators involved. The intention was to help you distinguish between genuine and fake comments, not to connect us with those activities. Ignoring this warning and dismissing the impact and crime of cyberstalking is concerning. Understanding and addressing cyberstalking is important for everyone’s safety.
I hope you never had this happen to you but if you get cyberstalked that you don't meet many with how you are acting. Cyberstalking is a crime.

Bias and Deflection: Labeling our points as biased deflects from the actual discussion. We are focused on presenting facts, not biased opinions.

Defending “Jinx”: We are not defending “Jinx” but discussing the broader themes and issues related to it. We defending people and facts.

Intentions: Clarifying intentions and avoiding assumptions is crucial. Some of your comments resemble those made by individuals involved in cyberstalking us. Engaging in constructive dialogue and clarifying your intentions would be helpful.

I hope this helps clear up the confusion and allows us to continue this discussion more productively. If this is met in the same unproductive manner, we will not engage.

Hi Yumi:> I have mixed feelings on the depiction of rape/sexual assault in media and its broader implications so while I agree with you on some things, I also disagree with you on others. Plus there are some things where I’m like I don’t know, there’s not one answer or the answer is in and of itself complicated…such is life!

But I do agree with you that what is depicted in this Webtoon is rape and that the story overall is lazy. I’d be more than happy to delve into all this with you if you’d like/if you’re curious :) I’m more so making this comment…well both for your sake and for the sake of addressing the person you’ve been talking to in this thread so far, who has blocked me for some reason, even though we’ve never even interacted before. Very disappointing, I’d liked to have addressed some of their comments more directly. Maybe they’re friends with Persistent Quill and I think…hm I forgot the name of the other person/the other people I tried talking with about this, because their opinions seem to really echo each other and they have quite similar arguments! I remember Persistent Quill and others made a lot of statements about how mean I was coming across and how I wasn’t using evidence and whatnot, how I had also been resorting to personal attacks instead of directly addressing their arguments.

I’ll be honest and say I was rather aggressive throughout our interactions—but I had been asking them clarifying questions and asking for sources both from the text and elsewhere to help me understand their perspective better, too. I had also eventually gone back and reread the first four chapters and took notes on them so that I could ensure that I was being accurate in my evaluation on the question of whether or not Jinx depicted rape, and I had provided these notes several times, asking for feedback and clarification for where I may have gone wrong/where I may have misinterpreted something/missed something/where an alternative reading might lie. Alas, I was blocked and ignored. Regardless though, it’s interesting because I feel like this person Morning Diamonds has been resorting to using the same tactics their possible friends have been critiquing themselves, personally attacking you and your ability to critically analyze media and making you out to not be able to understand other viewpoints amongst other things. It’s very sad to see. But I just wanted to step in here and say that I think that the text of Jinx as well as the sources that person has provided substantiates your viewpoint that there is rape being depicted here :)

If that person is reading this, I still really do want to see what you have to think about my chapter analysis! I still have it on hand and I would be more than happy and willing to post it again. I’ll even go back and reread those first few chapters again and/or refine and clarify my notes if that would be conducive to a better discussion :)

You are 100% the same person. lmao where has your friend(s) gone and why do you speak in exactly the same tone and manner.

"We have not posted an opinion. We are ground on facts and evidence. You are disagreeing with facts. We are not those facts. This is not an opinion vs opinion."
Bruh just because you pull out some articles and studies supporting your claim does not mean they are "facts". Consider falsifiability. A good arguement for a case considers counter points of view (which you have not because you are 100% right I guess). If I were to pull out some articles and studies supporting my side that would not mean I an right either. I can certainly present you with articles supporting my side of "enjoying rape in fiction is bad" if you so wish but I haven't because frankly i have better things to do with my time.

"For example, Jaekyung being an MMA fighter, not a boxer. But if we correct you, you would want to still use boxer and be incorrect."
MY GOD... you caught me can you read my mind? (This is sarcasm I don't really care I just called it the wrong thing it's not that serious this is not the "gotcha" moment you think it is)

"Labeling our points as biased deflects from the actual discussion. We are focused on presenting facts, not biased opinions." Yes you are biased. Say if I thought "all peanut allergies are fake" and only included articles that support the idea in my argument. that is called having a bias, which is what you are doing.

"We are not defending “Jinx” but discussing the broader themes and issues related to it."
Yes you are. I can link the comments made by other people that mildly criticise Jinx or express frustation and where you and your "friends" immediately jump to its defence if you want. Someone should comment "Jinx is stinky" and I bet you would be there LOL

Yet again you do not tell me what it is about Jinx that you like so much i am interested in these "themes" you are talking about. I'm starting to think the only thing you like is the comment section..

WOW thanks bestie it's as if we are allowed to have different opinions! I appreciate you x

Well, my friend [TM is right], you called it. She still insists that we're the same person, which shows she's not open to reassessing her stance. It seems she's not just mistaken but is relying on strawman arguments. She dismisses the facts we present and accuses us of bias, claiming we’re defending "Jinx." Her continuous false claims and personal attacks suggest she might be trolling since she’s not addressing the actual issues.

It’s clear that we are separate individuals and are not involved in any cyberstalking activities. Her claims to the contrary are incorrect and unproductive. It’s crucial to focus on the discussion at hand rather than engaging in personal attacks.

Her accusations seem more like confessions of her own misunderstandings. While I did initially misinterpret her question, I would have addressed it if not for her aggressive and deceitful approach. She asked me, not you and you can’t answer for me.

It’s evident she doesn’t know us or our intentions. She can only lie and that shows she knows she is wrong.

To all,

I want to clarify a few things, especially given the recent shift towards personal attacks and misinformation that seems to be overshadowing the actual points being discussed. It’s important to recognize that conversations about rape and sexual assault in media can evoke mixed feelings in everyone, including my friends and me. There often aren’t simple answers to these complex issues, and that’s how life is.

Regarding the recent comments and interactions:

Acknowledging Aggression: I appreciate that Akaito has admitted to being aggressive in his interactions with my friend. However, we have chosen not to engage further with individuals whose approach is unproductive or hostile. Continued aggression and false accusations hinder meaningful discussion. Many of us saw how Akaito was treating my friend, leading to the decision to block and ignore them as a boundary-setting measure. It’s important for Akaito to understand why we don’t wish to continue the conversation with them.

Unnecessary Chiming In: Akaito’s recent comments about addressing the situation with us are unnecessary, as we have already decided to step away from the discussion if it remains unproductive. Our intention has always been to focus on facts, not to engage in arguments or personal attacks. Presenting facts should not be misconstrued as making arguments.

Engaging with Aggression: We clearly communicated our position to Akaito and chose to stop engaging when the conversation stayed unconstructive. The repeated clarifying questions continued after we were stated the position and was met with more aggression. it would be counterproductive Responding further to Akaito, who has exhibited aggressive behavior,

False Accusations and Misunderstandings: The claims that we personally attacked the OP and other false accusations are unfounded. We have addressed our concerns based on facts and have avoided personal attacks. Using tools like ChatGPT helps ensure our communication remains fact-based and void of personal attacks. Akaito’s behavior, including lying and omitting details, undermines constructive dialogue.

Chapter Analysis and Misrepresentation: While Akaito mentions rereading and analyzing the chapters, their aggressive and false accusations undermine their credibility. Constructive dialogue requires honesty and accurate representation, which are lacking in these interactions. Discussions should be grounded in facts rather than personal grievances.

Regarding Morning Diamonds, the account [Morning Diamonds 10/6 is right] clearly indicates that they are not the same person as the original Morning Diamonds, as they are commenting about them rather than being them. For someone with an English major, this misunderstanding is surprising. The original Morning Diamonds has not responded in months. It is suspicious for him to narrow in on that name as he did.

In summary, while differing opinions on "Jinx" are valid, it’s essential to focus on factual accuracy. We were not saying the opinion is wrong. But as a factual claim it is wrong. The portrayal in "Jinx" might involve elements some view as related to rape, but labeling it as such without careful consideration of the story’s context is misleading. Constructive dialogue requires honesty and respect. We are willing to engage in discussions that adhere to these principles. However, we will step away from conversations with those displaying bad faith behavior, as seen with Yumiswife and Akaito.

Thank you.

Lol you forgot the numbers. It is [TM joined on 1/26/20 is right].
Sadly, I was right and she is overreacting now.
You are right she can only lie about us now and that shows she knows she is wrong. We tried to have a constructive dialogue:

It seems I will just have to respond to myself since no one wants to address me directly. Honestly, I find this behavior to be hurtful and honestly a bit abusive! It’s like if I was in a relationship and my partner kept giving me the cold shoulder and talking as if I weren’t there, saying how horrible I am, even though I acknowledged my wrongs and offered to behave in accordance to what they wanted me to do. Kind of like what Jaekyung does to Dan on occasion! This kind of thing can have a profound negative impact on someone’s mental health, which, as people who have been under constant attack, I would’ve hoped you’d understand. I’m not saying that that’s your intent but it is the effect it is having on me—especially when you do something like bring up how my status as an English Major (a personal attack) should somehow make it so my reading comprehension is perfect and infallible, for example, that it should make it so that I’m perfectly able to keep track of every single person I’m interacting with or responding to (especially when I can’t even respond directly to the people in question because they have me blocked!). The implication being here that I must be lying, or that I must be poor at doing some of the things that I am most passionate about. I’ve talked with some of my friends about it and so they know all about how bad this has been for me—even the darker, spiraling thoughts I’ve experienced as a result of earnestly trying to engage in this discussion over and over again.

Anyway, as I’ve said before, I’d be more than willing to provide my notes/analysis again and as I’ve said I’m open and willing to be wrong. If I’ve missed some details, tell me which ones! If I’ve misinterpreted something, tell me how! If my understanding of something is incomplete, fill in the details for me! I don’t claim to be perfect and I never have. Someone told me to go reread the chapters and I did, even taking notes, because I recognized that I may indeed have missed details or misremembered the order of events. And it turned out that I had forgotten certain things! So :)

In sorry Akaito that they are like this you seem like a genuine person and they clearly do not want to listen to you. Look after yourself bestie and stay safe x

[Let me just open my alternative account real quick to prove I am 2 people]
Anyway. You seem to have ignored ALL my points in my previous comment and have now proved you ignore others arguments as well (Akaito). I would like to see where I am being "aggressive". Frankly I don't see the point of engaging in discussion in someone who wants to create an echo chamber and disregards other points of view as "wrong". GOODBYE!