Not that funny as I used to think

Ashitaka obviously agreed only because of Noshiro. And mangaka highlited it pretty well. Of course she did it to show feelings between them but you can't use smbd's love to pushes your wishes. It was very easy to make Noshiro said these words before sex. It was very easy to show Ashitaka's acceptance. It has nothing to do with being tsundere. He had been tsundere all 4 chapters. Noshiro isn't a therapist. He can't decide what's better for Ashitaka (Truthfully even therapist can't do that, he only helps to make a decision. And it is yours decision. Therapist may not like it). In real life if your partner clearly says 'I don't want it' you say 'okay let's find another way'. Even if you think that may be he actually doesn't against it. You need positive yes. That's what consensual means. Otherwise you risk to become a criminal one day.

omg what are you saying now where is being criminal even came from . so what if ashitaka agreed because of noshiro its ikay isn't it he asked him so he said okay and mam its okay to wish something from the person you love and are in love with because he is your partner you can be anything with him you can be happy ,you can share anything with them ,you can even be selfish because he is your partner and you have evry right to wish something from them and now you are changing thw whole story the mangaka has written story in her way and its beautiful the way it is . noshiro isnt therapist but it wasnt something so psychotic to not to understand it was the matter of making ashitaka feel good or not which sure was in both of their hand. you ar saYING LIKE NOSHIRO had forced him which he had not he said i dont want it but he didnt say but i want it and i will have it at any cost he said let me do it let me make you feel good i won't do anything to hurts you wasn't that enough . they trust each other ashitaka trusted him so he agreed he wasnt some cliche uke he is strong headed uke who know what he is doing . he gave his consent in no way some one can become criminal like that

From the point of view of psychology and jurisprudence it's very important.
And the "heartwarming confession" is a part of pushing actually. 'I love you and I want you to fuck me' and 'okay, you can fuck me, because I like you but I'm not happy about me being fucked'. Feel the difference

it wasnt like i like you but i dont want you to fuck me it was more like i like you and i want you to fuck me but i am scared it will hurt but still i am trusting you because you are my partner . now feel the difference . more then not want to do it it was more like he wanted to but he was scared of getting hurt but as i am saying again and again noshiro had already said that he wont do anything to hurt him and he didnt

they both loved eachother one was compromising and the other was making sure so he wont feel pain and trying to give him pleasure. its normal in a relation ship more then pushing him self he was aking him there is diffrence

It's okay to wish smth from your partner, but it's only up to him to decide whether he wants it himself or not. Noshiro should've waited until Ashitaka would be ready. Really ready. That's all. Nobody can decide what's better for other person. I wrote it as a reply to 'everybody needs some pushes sometimes' and to sentence that it was okay to push cause Ashitaka needed to get ride of trauma. Yes, Ashitaka needed. But only he can choose the right time for it. Not Noshiro. If you start to decide what's better for your partner by yourself it leads to crime. That's what I meant. I'm not looking at Noshiro as a criminal. Of course not. He just didn't fully respect Ashitaka's wishes and didn't try to compromise. It makes him selfish but not criminal.

but ashitaka wanted it thats why he agreed may be it hasnt been properly conveyed in words for you but he did . he asked him he gave him his yes what else you wanted you know it was only four chapter right he should have wiated then it wouldhave took more then that where story was meant to be short and for a short story . noshiro did asked him and akkkun did agree but to you his ask was 'pushing' and akkun yes was only because off noshiro but he did not wanted it where i already have said that he wanted it but he was just afraid. ye only ashitka can choose the right time for it and he did thats why he agreed in a first place he chose it.we can ask the person but its up to him to decide and aakun did decide how does that make noshiro selfish .ps we can decide what better for your partner nut its up to him to choose deciding for the partner doesnt make some one criminal forcing him make a person criminal.he did asked ashitaka and he was willing to compromise if akun didnt have liked it he just wanted a chance to prove himself which is not selfish if he woulhave forced him that would have been selfish

And during sex he was thinking 'shit it'll be hurt like hell'. It's not trusting. And it much more like 'I don't want it because I know it will hurt' (even if he knows that it's not true). Yes Noshiro was gentle and made him feel good, but he should've rip of this fear from Ashitaka's head first. And it's not only about this moment with handcuffs. Noshiro had 4 chapters to work with this situation but all that he did was chasing after Ashitaka's ass. (Okay, 2 chapters. 1 - for introducing, 4 - final sex. 2 chapters it's quite a lot)

yes during sex he was thinking it will hurt ofcourse he was scared it was natural . sometiem even if your hurt wnated to do something yor head get scared .that doesnt mean he dont want to do it . he dud rip off his fear niot everyone can wor the you wnat them too just because he didnt do it just lie youu wanted to does not make him selfish he did it in his own way and guees what that felt good . you only saw him chasing his ass didnt saw his love how much he cared when he caught cold he was asking him for sex whats is wrong in that he can ask him its wasnt lie he was trying to rape him mangaka did what she wanted to and i approve of that and liked it its okay now you didnt liked it that is fine its your choice but evry relation have there own taste and their own way of doing things just because we are not aprroved of something tha doesnt make other selfish or asshole .

this is going to be my last reply really, because i'm getting a strong sjw vibe here.

since you mostly just answer the same again and again anyway: no.

have you ever been to therapy? have you ever talked to traumatized people? if you wait for them to make the step when they want, when they are ready, it never happens or when it's already to late. that's how humans are. why are people only joining the aa after they have done shit (lost their job, beaten their partner) etc.? we don't accept help easily, that doesn't mean we don't need it.

shocktherapy is exactly that. your therapist deciding what you are ready for. sure if you're stubborn and don't want help it won't work, but if you do it does.

N. isn't a therapist but his lover, he isn't forcing him so he doesn't make a decision for him either. at the end it's ashitaka who can say no. but he doesn't.

i'm not sure if you ever had a relationship or sex before. no one goes spouting such sentences. when i make out with you, when i lay in bed with you and don't say no, it's consensual. do you want people to write contracts? when i have a headache but my boyfriend seduces me and i fall for it, that's consensual. a smile can manipulate someone, doesn't mean you've to fuck with them.

relationships aren't happy healthy social and morally perfect, doesn't mean they are bad.

Because this is fiction world bro......because if things were so straightforward and easily solved there would be no need for mangas like this

For fuck's sake why so serious damn bitches? It's not like your opinion will change the story geeeeeezzz

wow so many dislike

Don't know what to say so many argue in here (〜￣△￣)〜

We're talking about a tsun tsun here ! Go check what nishiro said to him before penetrating he didn't shove his dick in akkun's ass he really said some good shit there that even the stubborn top willed to buttom even tho he thought it's gonna hurt so bad . And he kept chasing after him even when being rejected and ignored and yelled at by ashitaka he tried to explain what he said back then and obviously the sex thing wasn't his fault they were both new to that world and akkun didn't even tell him to stop and that it hurt. It was a misunderstanding that drove them apart for 3 years and i think the way nishiro is persuading ashitaka is overly cute they are hopelessly drawn to each other despite how stubborn they might be about a mere sex role (since it doesn't hurt anymore) and that's what attracts me about this manga their urge to be together surpassing their own will .