As an asian who often mistaken as a 15 yo by westerners, I think yall comments are also co...

Junesonata August 6, 2024 1:01 pm

As an asian who often mistaken as a 15 yo by westerners, I think yall comments are also concerning.
In our country, looking young is a great achievement and so on.
But somehow my westerners friends are always weirded out about it.


Do you all also feel that way to your adult friends who look like a kid????
Genuine question

Responses
    Alison August 6, 2024 1:19 pm

    Genuine answer with no intended malice: yes. As a westerner, I have friends who look fairly young and that's why they are just that - friends. I don't find it attractive at all, and like them to look "grown up" (with body hair, crow feet, muscles and taller than me etc) as I'm also a grown up. I want to date and read about people my age who look the same age as me. If they were legal and just looked young, I suppose I feel like I would feel insecure and judge my wrinkles and flaws against them or worry about how people see us, or worry they were immature. But it doesn't help that a lot of the west is aware of the Romeo and Juliet laws in some parts of Asia and it's often considered "an excuse" to draw kids. Not having a dig at you of course, but that is a common thing otaku here think.

    I definitely think it doesn't help that, on average, Asians are quite short when you've finished growing and often not particularly hairy. Post puberty men look very different in the west when they've grown up.

    Junesonata August 6, 2024 1:34 pm

    That is prejudice and racist though.
    Whenever I go in asian countries, no one would pointed out "ew you look like a kid" to someone who looked young. That is until i moved to toronto and suddenly i was not a possible dating partner just because they think i look like a minor—and it still happened even until i'm 28 now.

    That is why i was always so pissed off whenever people are "why would they draw them like a kid blabal" when it was just drawing style.
    No one really complained when it comes to problematic topic and minors sexualization in western animation (esp family guy) but when it comes to asian media, yall are always quick to judge "EW THAT IS A Kid" to midget characters.

    sinslover August 6, 2024 3:42 pm
    That is prejudice and racist though.Whenever I go in asian countries, no one would pointed out "ew you look like a kid" to someone who looked young. That is until i moved to toronto and suddenly i was not a pos... Junesonata

    Your not wrong on that. Have you seen big mouth? ugh I hate it, so uncomfortable to watch. I think we all can agree that there is questionable media/reading everywhere around the world. I would not take Alison's replay all to heart, it seems more of a personal preference on certain points. It's not racist or prejudice to have a preference. Anyway back to the reading, It's just no one wants to be pegged a peddo for reading something like this. I don't think the authors art style is trying to be that though. Theres a term for that type of work but I cant remember it right now. i just don't read it either. This is not that type of manage. There Is a VARY clear difference when it comes to that type of work, and I like I said this is not it.

    Signaless August 6, 2024 9:18 pm

    As an adult who gets often mistaken as a child due to youthful appearance, it’s a pain kinda. I want to date around my age but everyone thinks I’m a child. I’m approaching my late 20’s…

    BIG DADDY August 6, 2024 10:05 pm
    Your not wrong on that. Have you seen big mouth? ugh I hate it, so uncomfortable to watch. I think we all can agree that there is questionable media/reading everywhere around the world. I would not take Alison'... sinslover

    Is shotacon (lolicon for female characters) the term youre looking for? ( - I think I have to make it clear that I actually despise this but still know the term for it..)

    sinslover August 6, 2024 10:10 pm
    As an adult who gets often mistaken as a child due to youthful appearance, it’s a pain kinda. I want to date around my age but everyone thinks I’m a child. I’m approaching my late 20’s… Signaless

    I can see how that would be incredibly frustrating. I feel for ya. . By any means it's not fair to those like yourself who just LOOK young but are infact adults. People just do want to be labeled as a pedo, or be seen as someone trying to date a person of with such appearanc in place of the real thing. But if people just used some real thinking and understanding, I think this wouldn't be such an issue. Damn

    BIG DADDY August 6, 2024 10:10 pm
    That is prejudice and racist though.Whenever I go in asian countries, no one would pointed out "ew you look like a kid" to someone who looked young. That is until i moved to toronto and suddenly i was not a pos... Junesonata

    Calling it prejudiced and racist is a bit of a strech I would say.. Im not invalidating your experiences or anything but we also have to take in fact that the style the author draws in is very.. predatory you could say..
    As an artist/ illustrator you can choose how to portray your characters, its something that you can change but also draw having a traget audience in mind.
    Again in not invalidating your experiences and I somehow understand where youre coming from, being attracted to a story where a character resembles yourself is something usually most people is drawn into I suppose..
    My point is that the way the artist/author is portraying the characters like this is mostly seen as wrong and predatory for most people.
    Its not unusual for people to dislike it

    Arthur Morgan my pookie wookie August 6, 2024 11:20 pm

    As someone who's Chinese and African, this is drawn like a child. While we do focuse on wanting to look young, there's still a huge difference between looking young and looking like a child. My brother (fully chinese) looks really young, despite him being 23, but doesn't look like a child. This manga is targeted for shotacons, especially if u view their past history.

    While I have no problem with ppl being drawn short and dainty, you can still see from the head to body proportion and the face proportion if it's supposed to look like a child or not. Even if we tend to look young, out head to body proportion still look like the ones of an adult.

    Stop trying to excuse shotacon shit

    Arthur Morgan my pookie wookie August 6, 2024 11:24 pm
    As someone who's Chinese and African, this is drawn like a child. While we do focuse on wanting to look young, there's still a huge difference between looking young and looking like a child. My brother (fully c... Arthur Morgan my pookie wookie

    Simply by looking at the head to body ratio from the COVER alone, we can see that's not how an adult person is drawn. No adult has that huge of an head, especially if u compare it to the ML(?).

    Drawing adult men looking young and not like a child isn't hard. You can make the head rounder and eyes bigger, but if u exaggerate too much it ends up looking like a child. Children are known for having big heads compared to their body and the younger they are the bigger the head appears.

    Arthur Morgan my pookie wookie August 6, 2024 11:28 pm
    Simply by looking at the head to body ratio from the COVER alone, we can see that's not how an adult person is drawn. No adult has that huge of an head, especially if u compare it to the ML(?). Drawing adult me... Arthur Morgan my pookie wookie

    A good example of making a small, dainty character dont right is this MC: https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/how_to_be_the_chosen_one/

    While he's visible small and looks young, you won't mistake him for a child, bc his head to body proportions and face proportions match that of an adults.

    Junesonata August 7, 2024 3:15 am
    As someone who's Chinese and African, this is drawn like a child. While we do focuse on wanting to look young, there's still a huge difference between looking young and looking like a child. My brother (fully c... Arthur Morgan my pookie wookie

    ((Stop trying to excuse shotacon shit))


    You read "to deny the route" when the uke is a literal child and even when he's grown still look like a shota.
    You have no right

    If reading fanfiction make you feel a certain way, i think it is a YOU problem though.
    I'm reading this aprticular manga but never reminded me of any kids irl.
    Shotacon irl is disgusting.

    Junesonata August 7, 2024 3:15 am
    As someone who's Chinese and African, this is drawn like a child. While we do focuse on wanting to look young, there's still a huge difference between looking young and looking like a child. My brother (fully c... Arthur Morgan my pookie wookie

    ((Stop trying to excuse shotacon shit))


    You read "to deny the route" when the uke is a literal child and even when he's grown still look like a shota.
    You have no right

    If reading fanfiction make you feel a certain way, i think it is a YOU problem though.
    I'm reading this aprticular manga but never reminded me of any kids irl.

    Shotacon irl is disgusting tho.

    Arthur Morgan my pookie wookie August 7, 2024 3:34 am
    ((Stop trying to excuse shotacon shit))You read "to deny the route" when the uke is a literal child and even when he's grown still look like a shota.You have no right If reading fanfiction make you feel a certa... Junesonata

    The difference between deny the rude and whatever that is, is that there's no fucking smut. Genuinely all u get is a kiss, bc it's fucking romance.


    Also he looks like a child, bc he's around maybe 17-18? Everyone in that manhwa is drawn like that, bc ITS THAT ARTSYLE. If we compare it to this sick shit, where the ML is drastically older looking, except they're both the same age, u get how it's towards shotacons.

    Also I took a look at the other mahwas, somehow the "uke" is always drawn all tiny and child like and the top bigger and more manly. Its weird, js admit that

    Arthur Morgan my pookie wookie August 7, 2024 3:43 am
    ((Stop trying to excuse shotacon shit))You read "to deny the route" when the uke is a literal child and even when he's grown still look like a shota.You have no right If reading fanfiction make you feel a certa... Junesonata

    It's genuinely not a me problem, when the author obviously has a fucking shota fetish. You're js too stupid to realize that, bc u live on yr little yaoi bubble.

    I've genuinely explained to you why it's directed towards shotacons and somehow u don't get it. So let me break it down again.


    Author A draws a manga. The manga contains alot of smut, but this is no problem. But Author A draw the nga that gets dick up his ass with a big head and tinny body compared to it. Author A is an artist and artist know a child-preteen is drawn with a bigger head than an adult, because its basic anatomy. BUT Author A doesnt draw just one manhwa where the nga w dick in his ass looks very young, but several. While Fan A could say it's just his artsyle, it's not true, bc the Top is always alot bigger and looks like an adult.

    Author B draws a manga. The manga doesn't contain smut, but this is no problem. But Author B has an artsyle that makes every character look young. Now Fan A realizes, hey Author B doesn't draw smut and everyone looks youngish- so it must be an artsyle. And since the kiss was consenting, there's no problem. Fan A also realizes that Author A is fetishizing young looking boys taking dick up their ass, everytime. Normaly someone would say: "Hey that's weird", but Fan A is stubborn and doesn't seem to realize it

    Astralux August 7, 2024 10:54 am

    As an Asian adult.. because I'm short, people tend to see me as a kid and I'm very annoyed ngl

    Choso's Voluptuous Tiddies August 7, 2024 3:57 pm
    ((Stop trying to excuse shotacon shit))You read "to deny the route" when the uke is a literal child and even when he's grown still look like a shota.You have no right If reading fanfiction make you feel a certa... Junesonata

    Oh look it the pedophile defender

    Junesonata August 7, 2024 4:34 pm
    Oh look it the pedophile defender Choso's Voluptuous Tiddies

    You wanna accuse someone a pedo so bad huh.
    I guess your life is that bad? Well hang in there bud

    Arthur Morgan my pookie wookie August 7, 2024 4:59 pm
    You wanna accuse someone a pedo so bad huh.I guess your life is that bad? Well hang in there bud Junesonata

    I mean if u aren't, u might as well reply to my answeres. You can see that you're wrong, you js don't wanna acknowledged it, which is very immature.

    Also its valid for them to say u a pedo-defender, bc that's what you've been doing. Even after I've explained COUNTLESS times how the author draws them like children. Its the same situation as lolicons saying: "but she's 2916 years old".

    Junesonata August 7, 2024 5:07 pm
    I mean if u aren't, u might as well reply to my answeres. You can see that you're wrong, you js don't wanna acknowledged it, which is very immature. Also its valid for them to say u a pedo-defender, bc that's w... Arthur Morgan my pookie wookie

    Why the fuck would I reply when we already disagree in the first place weirdo??? Uke here is just built like a twink.

    You need therapy if you think of fictional characters are real people

    Junesonata August 7, 2024 5:09 pm
    I mean if u aren't, u might as well reply to my answeres. You can see that you're wrong, you js don't wanna acknowledged it, which is very immature. Also its valid for them to say u a pedo-defender, bc that's w... Arthur Morgan my pookie wookie

    It's okay even if people ignore you irl. Your weird sense of justice will come to rescue you and made people recognize you.
    Hang in there.

    Or not. You can hang yourself or whatever.