If fiction drives someone into committing a crime, I would say they were already a bad person from the start, seeing it portrayed in fiction was the only last push for them to do it. What about violent media that has caused people to harm and kill others or themselves? Do you think that violent content with things like murder, fights and other acts of violence shouldn't exist in media because it can also cause people to commit crimes?
Exactly caught on. What is violent media portraying? Fear of murder. Cases which makes us hate psychos and moreover a good positive side to it. If it was from a murder’s pov for example JEFFREY DAHMER and more criminals, these series actually inspire people to commit wrong doings. And these series end up having “good and cool name”, which one would also want, and can drive someone to commit, this is literally a study do you know? I could talk about crime all day long and law.
It is all about PORTRAYAL.
Explain to me how it's any different what you are saying. Getting aroused by murder is weird, but doesn't make you a criminal. The same way getting aroused by other crimes doesn't make you a criminal, but you are saying Loli/Shota content makes you a pedophile, and Fictional incest makes you incestuous. It is contradictory.
So sorry I didn’t say “criminal” because I meant “murder”. Did you not get that even? They are still criminals, because they are doing wrong acts? What term do you want me to use for them, or make one up? Wrong is wrong.
Did you get it?
And Shota Oni is not portraying what is happening as something good. Yuu constantly feels guilty about his feelings and doesn't want to admit them nor act on them BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING BAD. It is signaling to the audience that it is something wrong. It is not glorifying pedophilia at all.
It is glorifying pedophilia, your previous comment, a singular comment glorified pedophilia,
It wouldn’t have glorified pedophilia if yuu wasn’t strict. He’s very casual and lets shit happen. More over yuu is a medium for portraying that kid idk his name in the most ridiculous way. Also, the wrong people know how to decode this manga, so they aren’t thinking of it as “cute” but if yuu was strict and the portrayal was proper, they couldn’t have
Yeah sure he is not strict but it is not something I think someone would be considered pedophile for reading or would push someone into actually wanting to harm a real life child. Also one of the reasons Yuu isn't that strict is because he doesn't want to hurt Tsubaki's feelings since Tsubaki is basically pressuring him into a relationship with him. That is the literal whole point of the manga. Role reversal. Instead of an adult pressuring a child into a relationship with them, the child is the one pressuring the (almost) adult into it. And If you are talking about my comment about the latest chapter, I am curious as to why you think it is "glorifying pedophilia"
You should go back to and read my comments. Not once have I said yuu was the pedophile. And the concept that pedophile is “when an adult likes kids” have been altered in here, it’s not that straight forward. The artists is a pedophile, maximum of her consumers gap off of to these by imagining that child in weird positions and situations BECAUSE the artists so loosely lets YUU INTERACT with that child. A proper story would be yuu completely rejecting and being angry w that child.
To say “oh no the author is not supporting pedophilia see she’s against it because yuu is hesitating!!” That’s literally a blanket?? He’s not supposed to hesitate and there is no excuse to it. It cannot be like that, it’s very casual.
You should also go back and read my comments, because I never said this. I wasn't talking about Yuu, I was talking about the readers. I said I wouldn't view someone as a pedophile for reading this nor do I think this is bad enough to push someone into actually harming a child. And I never called Yuu a pedophile or implied that you did either. I said that Yuu isn't as strict because he's scared of hurting Tsubaki's feelings and that Tsubaki is pressuring him into a relationship with him and that I personally do not see this as a positive portrayal of pedophilia, since what is happening is constantly portrayed as negative. That is all I said. No mention of him being a pedophile, and certainly nothing like the words you put in quotes. You are putting words in my mouth.
I am not putting words into your mouth. I’m quoting my words again, PLEASE DECIPHER.
No, just because “yuu doesn’t want to hurt wittle tsubaki” does not make it right. It actually makes it worse. There is no alternate way of portraying yuu. No “it’s not seen as a positive portrayal” yet you guys comment on how cute it is and continue to read it? Does “it’s not portrayed in a positive tone” make the chapters any less weird?
I’m not calling every reader a pedophile, but this is a hit in Japan, and that is the problem. Most users here are anonymous and might even be tapping off of to this material.
You’re right, if they are fucked in the head they’d be fapping off of to the most modest person too, but here is the ISSUE I WANT TO BRING FORTH, this is EASY TO FAP OFF OF TO. Tsubaki and yuu are portrayed in a way that naive people think “it’s cute” and lets it advertise easily while not naive people use LITTLE imagination to get what they want. I’m saying, it’s not directly pedophilic, but it does fulfil the needful.
I do not care if someone faps to this, it is not real. They are not a pedophile for this, as shotas do not resemble real life children in any way besides size. The fictional children that only exist on your device's screen won't come out of the screen and thank you for defending them from Kodocons or whatever you think you are doing. They are not being harmed by this. Anyway, I do not have the energy to argue with you anymore, It is clear you will never change your mind, no matter what I say. And what you say will never change my mind. Which brings me back to my first reply that started this all. This won't change anything, It is just miserable to argue about something as silly as this so much especially when you know it isn't changing anything. Get a life and focus on real problems. I hope you find something else to do when you are bored instead of this. Have a good day. Or night, whatever it is for you.
WHAT.
And by “change” I’m only making those who know they are in the wrong aware.
This is the problem, accept you are in the wrong, either way you will continue reading this but do not recommend anyone or do not continue spreading this shit. At least I hope y’all don’t. Moreover a conversation on this particular topic IS A NEED.
Your first sentence is literally the worst shit I’ve read. But alright good day.
What a overdramatic reaction. What? I do not care if someone faps to something that does not affect anyone in real life. Hell, I won't lie and say I don't fap to this myself every once in a while. It literally does not matter. Tsubaki does not exist. Bye
It’s so sad people like you exist. I’ve never encountered such a person, and I hope I never will. I’ve really been tested today.
Please heal.
Can someone tell me if a timeskip will occur or not