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It is important to acknowledge that there are varying opinions on whether the interactions depicted in the story constitute rape or sexual abuse. Some individuals view it as rape based on their personal interpretations, while others see it as sexual abuse. Both perspectives are valid within the realm of personal opinion, and it is crucial to respect these differing viewpoints.
The situation has been exacerbated by harassment and cyberstalking. Those who believe the interactions constitute rape have, unfortunately, resorted to aggressive tactics, including stalking and spreading falsehoods, to silence dissenting opinions. This behavior is harmful and counterproductive, creating an environment where legitimate discussions are overshadowed by intimidation and false claims.
It is essential to understand that differing opinions on sensitive topics are part of healthy discourse. While some may view the interactions in the story through a lens of rape, others may interpret them as sexual abuse based on facts and the story's context. Dismissing or invalidating others' perspectives, especially when supported by factual analysis, only exacerbates tensions and hinders constructive dialogue.
Our primary goal is to end the harassment and to foster an environment where all perspectives can be discussed respectfully. We are not determined to prove one viewpoint over another but are instead focused on ensuring that harassment ceases and that diverse viewpoints are acknowledged and respected.
The better question is why are haters cyberstalking to prove it is rape by spreading falsehoods and harassing people who are vaild in their opinion and have factual and source materail backing them up saying it is not rape by facts and legal definitions. Whilre your opinion is "it is rape" please be respectful to the ones that have different opinions than you instead of dismissing them or making them wrong or worst.
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I appreciate your engagement in this discussion. I’d like to address a few key points to clarify the situation:
My previous comment was not intended to suggest that disagreement itself is disrespectful or dismissive. It was meant to highlight that differing interpretations of the story should be respected. While your opinion that the interaction constitutes rape is valid, there are others who interpret the events differently. Disagreements are part of healthy discourse, but it's important to approach them respectfully. How you are wording things make other wrong.
The interpretation of what constitutes rape or sexual assault can vary based on legal definitions and personal viewpoints. According to some interpretations, the events depicted might be seen as sexual assault or coercion rather than legal rape. This distinction is significant in discussions about the story’s content and should be acknowledged when forming opinions or engaging in debate.
It appears that there may be some confusion regarding the intent and content of my previous message. The focus was on ensuring that all perspectives are acknowledged respectfully, rather than dismissing or invalidating any particular viewpoint. If there are specific legal definitions or factual interpretations you believe are not being addressed adequately, please share them for further discussion.
While your initial comment did not directly address issues of cyberstalking, it's important to recognize that the broader discussion has been affected by harassment and the spreading of false information. This context impacts how discussions are perceived and should be considered when evaluating the validity of various claims. It is the cyberstalker who are determine to prove us wrong and make it legally rape.
Thank you for your attention to these matters. I hope this clarification helps in understanding the diverse perspectives on this topic and fosters a more respectful dialogue moving forward. Please keep to the real details of Jinx. Some of your details are not accurate.
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hello again!
okay thanks for being so nice and thanks for the clarification about the cyberstalking stuff. so what i understand is you've been harassed before? i'm sorry to hear that's the case.
so for legal definition, i quote the fbi website because that's the one that first came to mind for me:
The revised UCR definition of rape is: Penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.
you can find it here:
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/violent-crime/rape#:~:text=The%20revised%20UCR%20definition%20of,the%20consent%20of%20the%20victim.
dan consented to sex in exchange for money, although under dubious conditions, but he never agreed to rough sex, and jaekyung is very rough with him. i saw this in chapter 3 pages 21, 24, 25 where dan expresses being unsure and asks jaekyung to stop, jaekyung is upset in response to this instead of being understanding and reassuring. that is why i think this is rape and can not be interpreted as anything else (i am not trying to say you cant interpret it otherwise! i am trying to understand your point i swear haha work with me)
i would be very interested to hear your opinion on this panel and chapter and your analysis of their first sexual interaction
thanks for engaging in this discussion with me!
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Hi HoneyHoney,
Thank you for reaching out and providing the FBI's definition of rape. I appreciate your effort to engage in this discussion.
I’m hesitant to fully engage at the moment because I’ve noticed some similarities between your comments and those of individuals who have previously harassed us. Given that your account was created recently and seems to focus primarily on Jinx, I’m unsure whether this is a new or recurring person who may have bypassed a block.
Regarding your question about Chapter 3, I understand the concerns you’ve raised about the content. Different interpretations can certainly arise from such scenes. However, given our past experiences with harassment and the use of debunked arguments by others today, I prefer to proceed with caution. We’ve been dealing with a lot of misinformation and harassment, which affects how we approach new discussions. I was initially more open to discussing this until I returned today, but real-life issues have taken precedence and prevented me from engaging sooner. It seems that patience has been lacking if this is what I suspect. I could be mistaken, of course.
If you’re genuinely interested in understanding our perspective and engaging in a constructive dialogue, please provide more context or clarify your intentions. It would be helpful to discuss this matter in a way that avoids misinterpretations and respects the nuances of our previous interactions.
Thank you for your understanding and patience.
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I wanted to let you know that I’ve recently changed my name because my previous name was stolen and misused. I anticipate needing to change my name again in the future, as I have had several instances of cyberstalking where my identity has been appropriated by others.
Given these circumstances, I am cautious about engaging in discussions due to past experiences with harassment and identity theft. If you’re genuinely interested in a constructive dialogue, please bear in mind these challenges and provide more context or clarity about your intentions.
so i'm reading jinx and jaekyung just raped dan... which is fine, i dont mind reading about it but why are people so insistent that its not rape?? dan literally says no stop and is obviously inexperienced and jaekyung just shoves his whole length up into him without any warning or agreement between both of them that rough sex is okay... again i dont mind reading about it but people seem determined to prove its not rape when it is. lets just be honest people