Consent

sarcat July 27, 2024 1:45 am

I know this is just a fictional story and all but I see people in the comments having trouble with understanding consent so, here we go:
Would Dan agree to have sex with JK if he did have a choice and wasn't desperately in need of money? NO!
Consent is supposed to be enthusiastic and dynamic and Dan's case is the opposite. He dreads having sex with JK and constantly asks him to stop.
So, under normal circumstances, where the two of them would have stood on equal ground and the power dynamic between them was the same, Dan wouldn't have agreed to sex and he would've probably reported JK for sexual harassment.
Even if that wasn't the case, Dan didn't agree to be abused and humiliated so brutally and violently, nothing consensual is going on here, JK is just using Dan's weakness to exploit him.

Responses
    seabi July 27, 2024 1:50 am

    omg thank you

    Persistent Quill July 27, 2024 1:58 am

    1. Understanding Consent and Dan's Situation: It’s true that consent should be enthusiastic and given freely. However, Dan’s situation is complex. While it’s clear that Dan is in a difficult position due to his financial desperation, it's also important to consider his emotional state and personal history. Dan is a survivor of sexual abuse, which profoundly affects his relationship with sex. This background makes his situation different from a straightforward case of consent. Which is the main argument in the topic that cannot hold water to this story as it dismisses most of the facts of the story.

    2. Dan’s Feelings for Jaekyung: The comment seems to overlook that Dan has a complicated emotional attachment to Jaekyung. Despite his financial desperation, Dan’s feelings for Jaekyung play a significant role in his decisions and actions. This emotional dynamic adds layers to their interactions, which might not be immediately obvious but are crucial to understanding the full picture.

    3. Dan’s Choices and Agency: While Dan’s choices are influenced by his need for money, it’s also important to recognize that he does have a degree of agency in his decisions. The narrative explores how his personal feelings and past trauma intersect with his current situation, making his responses to Jaekyung more nuanced than simply a matter of exploitation.

    4. Misinterpretation of Abuse and Exploitation: The comment suggests that Jaekyung is purely exploiting Dan, but this view might oversimplify the complexities of their relationship. Jaekyung’s actions are indeed problematic, but the story portrays a more intricate interplay of power, emotional connection, and personal history. The dynamics between Dan and Jaekyung are intended to be explored deeply rather than viewed in black-and-white terms.

    Understanding these nuances can provide a more balanced perspective on the characters and their interactions. The story delves into complex issues of consent, power dynamics, and personal history, and it’s important to consider these factors when discussing their implications.

    The main topic dismisses many aspects of the story to make a biased statement rather than trying to understand the story and characters. Also, this topic hasn’t been mentioned in the last few pages. It is odd to address something that is not being addressed like it has been currently happening.

    sarcat July 27, 2024 2:14 am
    1. Understanding Consent and Dan's Situation: It’s true that consent should be enthusiastic and given freely. However, Dan’s situation is complex. While it’s clear that Dan is in a difficult position due ... Persistent Quill

    Stfu, bot.

    King July 27, 2024 7:09 am
    1. Understanding Consent and Dan's Situation: It’s true that consent should be enthusiastic and given freely. However, Dan’s situation is complex. While it’s clear that Dan is in a difficult position due ... Persistent Quill

    it is black and white though, it isn't complex at all because the author has a FETISH for this type of stuff. Authors can create heavy themes about power dynamics, consent, and complex issues, but Jinx is not the BL you're looking for. It's straight up rape fetish porn and it's problematic

    Green Leaf July 27, 2024 3:36 pm
    it is black and white though, it isn't complex at all because the author has a FETISH for this type of stuff. Authors can create heavy themes about power dynamics, consent, and complex issues, but Jinx is not t... King

    From a friend "The person you responded to is blocked by the op. It's disappointing to see you dismiss their insights and resort to labeling without engaging with the complexities of the story. Jinx's narrative isn't as black and white as you suggest; it delves into sensitive issues like power dynamics and consent, which aren't simply reducible to a fetish or pornography. It's clear you have strong opinions about the story, but labeling it as rape fetish porn oversimplifies its narrative and themes. Jinx explores complex issues of power dynamics and consent, which are portrayed with sensitivity and depth.

    They highlighted valid points about the nuanced portrayal of Dan and Jaekyung's relationship, which includes elements of sexual assault and abuse. These are serious themes that require careful consideration rather than quick judgments.However, it's essential to note that Jinx does not fit the legal definition of rape. Such assertions diminish the nuanced exploration of trauma and emotional complexities depicted in the narrative.

    The story challenges readers to confront difficult topics, and while it may provoke uncomfortable reactions, it's crucial to approach it with a deeper understanding. Dismissing it as mere fetishism overlooks its deeper themes and messages.
    Furthermore, describing yaoi as a fetish or pornography is misleading. Yaoi is not synonymous with porn but rather explores romantic and sometimes sexual relationships between male characters. It’s important to approach these discussions with accuracy and understanding.

    I encourage you to delve deeper into the story to appreciate its themes beyond surface interpretations. Let's engage in a thoughtful dialogue that respects the complexity of the issues portrayed.

    Let's discuss these matters with respect for differing interpretations and strive for a more nuanced understanding of the narrative.
    "

    Green Leaf July 27, 2024 3:38 pm

    From a friend "It's disheartening to see you resort to name-calling and attempting to silence differing perspectives. Respectful discussion is about engaging with ideas, even when they challenge our own views. Calling someone a 'bot' or dismissing their insights doesn’t contribute positively to the conversation.

    They raised valid points about the complexities of the story and how it addresses issues like consent and personal history. These are crucial aspects that warrant thoughtful consideration. Dismissing their perspective as you did undermines the opportunity for meaningful dialogue.

    Let's aim to discuss these topics with respect for each other's viewpoints. Everyone should feel encouraged to share their thoughts without fear of being dismissed or insulted. That's how we foster understanding and learn from each other's perspectives.
    "

    Green Leaf July 27, 2024 4:03 pm

    "Would Dan agree to have sex with JK if he did have a choice and wasn't desperately in need of money? NO!"

    You cannot claim that.

    "He dreads having sex with JK and constantly asks him to stop."
    This is against the story


    "So, under normal circumstances, where the two of them would have stood on equal ground and the power dynamic between them was the same, Dan wouldn't have agreed to sex and he would've probably reported JK for sexual harassment."

    You cannot claim that. Also, if Dan wouldn't had agree. He could report Jk for sexual harassment. When Jk asked, Dan said no then JK was on the phone and calling someone else. There would be nothing to report.

    You blocked someone for them calling you out on your biases. They were being honest and truthful and you blocked them because it went against your opinion. You even called them a bot. You are abusive.

    Green Leaf July 27, 2024 4:17 pm
    "Would Dan agree to have sex with JK if he did have a choice and wasn't desperately in need of money? NO!"You cannot claim that. "He dreads having sex with JK and constantly asks him to stop."This is against th... Green Leaf

    * Also, if Dan wouldn't have agreed. He couldn't report Jk for sexual harassment. When Jk asked, Dan said no then JK was on the phone and calling someone else. There would be nothing to report.

    sarcat July 27, 2024 6:23 pm
    it is black and white though, it isn't complex at all because the author has a FETISH for this type of stuff. Authors can create heavy themes about power dynamics, consent, and complex issues, but Jinx is not t... King

    Don't engage with them. This is the same person with mutiple account just trolling and saying a whole lot of nothing using chatgpt. Just block or ignore them.

    ... July 29, 2024 10:06 pm

    you deserve all the love in this world for wording his situation like this, thank you

    sarcat July 30, 2024 4:52 am
    you deserve all the love in this world for wording his situation like this, thank you ...