Okay I dont want to argue with your logic that seems inconsistent because you keep blabbering.
But I will answer you this once. Your logic at first comment was defending that this isnt a pedophilia as what was refered to this:
"That's ageist though? Don't you think?..and that it is too much to even define pedo based on the number age of mind alone"
Your arguing on how it is not a pedo, which is what was the concern of the original topic. But, your statement now changed to:
"Yeah 20 year old marrying 80 is pedo"
And your now defining it whit age as implied to what you reply on fellaine
Now my arguement is that I didnt care whether the girl pursued the MC because it was her own action, not that I think it was right or wrong, since I dont know whether the MC already confessed his secret to her. However, in the perspective of the MC, pursuing a 20 year old girl is already pedo which is morally wrong.
The original topic even said that:
" I was hopeful when the protagonist said that accepting her feelings would be wrong due to their age difference, but when I checked the ending of the novel, they got married?"
Just like how your arguement is inconsistent, the MC or the author also is inconsistent with their opinion about the girl, when the MC at first didnt want the girl because it is pedo, but the ending stated otherwise.
It was certainly pedophilia and you keep changing your statement. Thus, would I even call it a logic if you dont even defend your original arguement that it wasnt a pedophilia.
Okay I dont want to argue with your logic that seems inconsistent because you keep blabbering.
But I will answer you this once. Your logic at first comment was defending that this isnt a pedophilia as what was refered to this:
"That's ageist though? Don't you think?..and that it is too much to even define pedo based on the number age of mind alone"
Your arguing on how it is not a pedo, which is what was the concern of the original topic. But, your statement now changed to:
"Yeah 20 year old marrying 80 is pedo"
And your now defining it whit age as implied to what you reply on fellaine
Now my arguement is that I didnt care whether the girl pursued the MC because it was her own action, not that I think it was right or wrong, since I dont know whether the MC already confessed his secret to her. However, in the perspective of the MC, pursuing a 20 year old girl is already pedo which is morally wrong.
The original topic even said that:
" I was hopeful when the protagonist said that accepting her feelings would be wrong due to their age difference, but when I checked the ending of the novel, they got married?"
Just like how your arguement is inconsistent, the MC or the author also is inconsistent with their opinion about the girl, when the MC at first didnt want the girl because it is pedo, but the ending stated otherwise.
It was certainly pedophilia and you keep changing your statement. Thus, would I even call it a logic if you dont even defend your original arguement that it wasnt a pedophilia.
Okay I dont want to argue with your logic that seems inconsistent because you keep blabbering.
But I will answer you this once. Your logic at first comment was defending that this isnt a pedophilia as what was refered to this:
"That's ageist though? Don't you think?..and that it is too much to even define pedo based on the number age of mind alone"
Your arguing on how it is not a pedo, which is what was the concern of the original topic. But, your statement now changed to:
"Yeah 20 year old marrying 80 is pedo"
And your now defining it whit age as implied to what you reply on fellaine
Now my arguement is that I didnt care whether the girl pursued the MC because it was her own action, not that I think it was right or wrong, since I dont know whether the MC already confessed his secret to her. However, in the perspective of the MC, pursuing a 20 year old girl is already pedo which is morally wrong.
The original topic even said that:
" I was hopeful when the protagonist said that accepting her feelings would be wrong due to their age difference, but when I checked the ending of the novel, they got married?"
Just like how your arguement is inconsistent, the MC or the author also is inconsistent with their opinion about the girl, when the MC at first didnt want the girl because it is pedo, but the ending stated otherwise.
It was certainly pedophilia and you keep changing your statement. Thus, would I even call it a logic if you dont even defend your original arguement that it wasnt a pedophilia.
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My gosh how will I delete this, I didnt knew that it will be put in the 2nd page
Haha dude that aya person is literally a braindead zombie. Not worth fighting a person who's clearly not in a stable mind lol the way they try so hard to justify the age gap makes me think that they're doing the same and are a creep
Marrying 20 to 80....I don't mean to be demeaning but if it was not obvious that was a figure of speech to point out how staryed from logic you guys think...I understand how it feels though because I was in that position before.....if you truly read my comments. Your replies will not be as incoherent as this...
repeating from that said previous comment....my logic is simple as humans we use age as a simple metric to prove maturity which in most cases is true to how our society works older means more mature in thinking, laws also use that because in order for laws to work things need to be specific (but there are some exceptions thats why sometimes minors are put into trial as ADULTS).
But maturity is an abstract construct and humans can reach mental maturity (pls. Do not confuse this with physical maturity) at far earlier or later age depending on the enviroment.
What I am saying here is the law still speaks true as it is a good measure of things most of time that is why they are debated over before being approved.
My argument is a matter of not etirely if it is pedo or not but this is just a small part. The main argument is should you be shaming people of age making adult decisions themselves and labeling it as pedo even if they acted on it on their free will free from any maliciously designed influence?
Regardless of what the character thinks or feels or even the author.....the action alone speaks for itself....they did not do anything wrong if they pursued a relationship maturely and of freewill.
I hope I made that as easy to comprehend as possible.
Well your way of justifying things seems typical to your type of people..."I am too lazy to think so lets just group people in categories using ill designed names"....I am so heartbroken whenever I realize the state of how education is brought to this planet specially in this decade of the century. Honey you are using a smartphone now...it would not hurt to read a bit...you can do better than that.
And sorry dear it gives me the shivers....not my cup of tea so no. But I know married people of huge age gaps to understand this if 20 years is a huge gap then I think I have the right to claim that I understand...they married when they were 30 and 50....creepy in your opinion right?....the only creepy here is your prejudice...grow up and broaden your horizons.
Dontttttt careeee I ain't reading allat go to mental hospital psycho creepy bitch
Says the one who bothered to reply...I got the last laugh cause trash like you cant resist to reply, you pathetic dim witted degenerate....evolution will take care of you.....hope you have a bad week cause karma follow BIGOTS like you...hope you learn hard.
@Aya Waahh waahhh cry me a river lil creep you need to be studied by the psychiatrist lol. Also go to a mental hospital to get your loose screws fixed. You're a loser and a creep who defends weird ass age gaps. Tell your parents I said sorry to them cause they have a creep for a child I feel so bad for them. Looks like someone's mad. Did you wittle feelings got hurt that why you dwecided to block me
Guess it's done now cause all I see is blank haha blocked... What you even wrote there? Bet it's not even readable you talk weird cause don't think well... See a cognitive specialist....bye have fun being ignorant..... Born ignorant, lived ignorant, die ignorant.... Not that different with a cockroach..... You can reply some more.... Enjoy... Ignorance is such bliss.
getting called a bigot by a pedophile supporter is insane. Yes, age gaps can have healthy relationships, I've mentioned this multiple times, but there is a limit and moral code to abide by. Dating someone that can basically be your daughter or granddaughter is creepy, because what business do you have doing it in the first place? Having a 14yo confess to you as a 60+yo is something you should avoid and not encourage, dating them once they turned into adults is the same. Because you've seen them as someone SIGNIFICANTLY younger than you before, you've watched them grow up, and in this context yes, because they literally spend time together, he has formed a deep connection with her, enough to treat her as something more than an acquaintance. This isn't a chance encounter sort of story where they meet and they're both adults, this isn't those fantasy loopholed stories where one is an immortal and another is a mortal. It's one where they literally spend time together as kids, or in this case she's a kid and he's an adult, and him being fully aware that her confession of feelings is weird inside his narrative because he's older. Yes it is weird to accept it later on because again, she was a child when they met, he saw her grow up, like how a father does to his child. As the adult, and OLDER person, you have a moral obligation to not accept that person's feelings, yes they can make decisions of their own since they're adults by then, but so are you, and you're older, you should have better character, morals and values I mean. You calling people bigots, closed minded and shallow, for calling out pedophilic stories is a problem, because it reflects on your own beliefs. I frankly don't care if you feel insulted by insults, because you're a creep. Your feelings did get hurt, I know it, you wouldn't have blocked anyone if it didn't get hurt. Do some soul searching or something, maybe it'd help.
Out of context but this is by far the longest argument I saw in Mangago.
You didnt get to see the prime days of this website, especially in the question sections in the home of this website. Arguments would length to 6 or more pages because different people will try ot take part in a conversation HAHAHAHAHAHHA
Wow, I don't really read comments before. Such a waste I didn't get to see those arguments lolol.
Jesus you keep on saying pedo here and that look up the meaning of the word before you use it. The fact that you refuse to even fact check just proves your bigotry. Did you honestly see the protag pursue the girl when she was 14?
I am not gonna waste anymore of my precious brain cells on you....I did my portion to help you shed your bigotry do your part and overcome that yourself....I have papers to finish lab work that need tending to....all I can say is good luck.
Lastly...We have our moral codes to abide? "YOUR MORAL CODE"! not theirs.
If both parties are adults and they are entering a relationship using free will....you don't have a say on what they do or pursue.
Respect other's free will....if you even have the decency to do that.I dont care of insults your not the first one I tried to free from ignorance......muting this thread cause no results are gained from talking to a wall...I did my part do yours bye....be critical and question everything thats our burden as human beings.
I honestly didn't notice that you were the same person that called me ageist, and now you're calling people bigots. What a strange train of thought.
This story, the plot, characters, art, was so beautiful and interesting! It was well written, the psychological aspects of each character as well as their development, not to mention the world building such as abilities and the politics! It was all going good.
Until the 14(?)yo girl classmate was introduced, I forgot her age and what exactly their relationship is due to it being awhile, but it's near. She was introduced as a character that eventually catches feelings for the protagonist, which was ok, had the protagonist not been an adult man in a child's body. I was hopeful when the protagonist said that accepting her feelings would be wrong due to their age difference, but when I checked the ending of the novel, they got married?
Though please do not quote me on this and check for yourself, the novel version I acquired had a horrendous translation, but enough for me to vaguely understand that he got married. Anyways, I didn't continue further, I am not inclined in wasting my time to read pedophilia.