king tj centered chapters we are so back

Good job on comparing 19 years to a current relationship thats developing

I swear you guys dont think clearly.

You really dont think Jo would have helped Ian in that situation if he knew him back then?

if love is based on all the things that happened in our past why do most people not end up with the first person they dated??

yea but jo didn’t know ian back then so why taking him into account + wtf are you yapping abt

How are missing the point this badly? are dumb or stupid?

Also, why did you compare Jo and Ian in the first place. your comment is based on a comparison a very stupid comparison

so its you who yapping about bullshit

i get your point abt letting go of the toxic past and all but girl 19 YEARS?! they basically spent their life tgt like we’re not talking abt a cheap 3 years flashback from a b rated relationship here

bro this is literally a triangle romance why wouldn’t i compare them are you fucking blind or are we not reading the same thing

Yeah I understand that its 19 years, but its not impossible for the relationship to end..All Im saying is that its strange to compare it to a new developing relationship because Jo and Ian have to go through their own experiences

lets say someone worse happens to Ian in current time and its way worse then the drugs and Jo is the one to help him..then what? is Jo automatically better now?

I think you guys hold to strongly onto this 19 years andI think the author did this on purpose because shes either gonna go with

A) you cant break out of toxic and codependent cycles because of the duration of the relationship

or

B) its not impossible to break out of toxic relationships regardless of how long the relationship was.

*something worse

well i hope she won’t pull a back to school and choose the love or hate path

back to school had a perfect ending? he ended up witj the greenest flag. love or hate was shit

My whole thing with this is I can’t imagine Ian ever caring about Jo more than he does TJ. I’m having such a hard time believing that to be possible that if they’re endgame, I hope the author can sell it to me in a way that makes sense.

Be so for real Jo would’ve helped him get through Ian’s drug addiction almost the exact same way as TJ would. Jo made such a big change on Ian by just meeting him for a few months, so who knows what will happen when they continue being with each other for longer?

I can imagine it, because its not impossible. It will probably take time.

@justhere: I don’t know why you’re replying to me when you have me blocked.

The point I’m making is that it isn’t realistically possible as of now. I can’t speak on scenes that haven’t occurred yet.

Jo has shows a different aspect of life to Ian, yes, but what’s the big change?

? What do you mean? I saying, TJ literally did the bare minimum. Jo would’ve done the EXACT same thing if they knew each other sooner. Also I dont know what youre trying to say

You said "Jo made such a big change on Ian by just meeting him for a few months" I'm asking what the big change is.

On the other hand, not sure what bare minimum means to you. There's nothing minimal about getting someone off drugs. Aditionally, simply by climbing the ranks in the gang, TJ stands like a wall between Ian and anyone who would go after him (he has many enemies from his time within the gang). No one can just leave the gang like Ian did unscathed. It's because TJ is there that he can move freely. The same TJ who made terrible decisions just to keep Ian close to him realized how stupid that was after his accident. When Ian came to see him at the hospital, he realized that he was relieved about the fact that Ian hadn't been in the car, which is why he told Ian to stay away. It's also the reason why when Ian sitll showed up at the funeral, putting his own life in danger, TJ decided to walk away partly to keep him safe.

Okay I shouldn’t have said made a big change, but I mean that Ian cares a lot about Jo as well, just from meeting him for a few months. If they continue to develop their relationship, it could’ve went way farther. I see your point, and I get that the actions that TJ did were good, but I still believe that TJ isnt good for Ian because of what he does. Ian is trying to start a new life, a life without being apart of that gangster crap and also trying to become a better person, and being with TJ is doing nothing but the opposite, as well as it probably brings Ian danger. Yeah, TJ protected him, but im saying that Jo would’ve also protected him from others if he was in a bad situation. Also, what I mean by bare minimum, is when TJ helped Ian with his drug addiction. Most friends would help their other friend with their drug addiction. Im not saying its just what everyone does, and thats why it doesn’t even matter, but its because EVERYONE is making such a big deal BECAUSE of that one action(and saying how much better TJ is than Jo because of that). TJ helped Ian and protected him, but it doesn’t mean he’s good for him. Ian deserves someone who will actually treat him right without being put in danger— which is Jo.

If I got anything wrong, please correct me because im not that good at english:)

I'd agree with you on the fact that he's trying to start a new life and TJ's no good for him if that's truly the case, but I've also seen that it's not so much about whether TJ is good for him or not. It goes both ways and you might have not noticed, but ut's very easy for Ian to revert to his gangster self. The moment he found out that TJ had his accident, he declared that he'd find who did it and kill them all.

At first I thought he just said that in the heat of the moment, but then when he actually went to the funeral and TJ asked him why he doesn't just listen to what he's saying by stating away, Ian's reply was

"I told you. I'm gonna koill them all."

When TJ said "and then what?", it was Ian's cue to understand that if he does something like that, he can't just say he wants to walk away again. That's why he insisted on the fact that Ian should just leave now and Ian went with the answer

"you need me"

I realized then that TJ stopped thinking he needed Ian to thrive because he'd been able to do so without Ian while he was away in jail and then away from the gang. He no longer NEED Ian, he just wants him. However when he realized that Ian wasn't going to leave him, he decided to leave instead. That was his first real act of putting Ian first, above his own feelings. Still, Ian refuses to let him go. That's why I struggle to see Ian ever having such strong feelings for Jo. Like even now, he keeps looking for TJ.

I'm not saying it's impossible since he obviously started having feelings for Jo now, but it's just not something that makes sense as of now. I'm glad that I heard he's supposed to make his decision in season 3 at least, because that gives them time, but even then... I don't know. I'm looking forward to seeing what the author has in store. I'm personally starting to believe that Jo is meant to show Ian a different side of life and to see if he wants it that bad or if he can finally accept the life he has now and make the best of it.

I honestly agree with you as well. I really want Ian to end up with Jo because in my opinion, I think that he is the better option, but Ian is really attached to TJ and I don’t think he’s going to let him go. Ian is highly likely going to end up with TJ because of this, but I hate it because TJ is just not good for him. I mean, it sort of proved my point. Ian got mad that TJ was in an accident, and wanted to fight the guys, which would’ve caused so much danger for him. It might be easy for him to just switch back to a gangster any time if TJ ever ends up like getting seriously hurt by the gangsters, but the relationship with Ian and Jo is still developing, and Jo could possibly change who Ian is, and help him become better. Ian doesn’t want to become a gangster anymore and wants to live a normal life, while TJ is still a gangster which will cause more problems on him. Ian should just let him go honestly

I do agree tho. TJ has also put Ian first a lot, but he’s still a red flag. Also thank u for telling me because I forgot half of the things in the story. My point still stands in my opinion, but I agree with you