Bruh I wouldn’t talk to him

Dorothea*

Yeah, but she has the audacity to be jealous when she's with the man that she was in love with and killed herself for.

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But he doesn't know that amd he isn't on a date he was going to talk about something with her like he said that if he should tell her because she assumed that he was on a date

He literally pushed the door to enter with her… into the room where dorothea was did we read the same chapter buddy?

You’re right, and what he did in that moment was wrong, but his intention in meeting Monica had nothing to do with jealousy. He was trying to change the future for the better and hopefully prevent a future war. It was only after he fucked up that he realized he was going about things the same way he used to

That's what I mean and also he did do that but he only did that because he was jealous that the girl he is in love with is with the guy that she is in love with and would kill herself for, but even if she's not in love with him anymore he does not know that. And he was never in a date in the first place , she assumed that like they're both in the wrong. But she can't have the audacity to be jealous when she's with the guy that she's was in love with and he's only with that girl to stop that war. And let me say this again he doesn't know that she isn't in love with him anymore

I totally agree. And on the flip side of that, on top of not knowing she isn't in love with Theon anymore, Ethan's still acting like mutual affection is a lost cause. I think this is also him being unfair to Dorothea because he continues to assume she hasn't grown from who she was in the past, at least in this respect, even after he learns she also retained all of her memories. He is deeply aware of how deep Dorothea's obsession with Theon ran, but he's also known both of them since they were kids in this life and he's seen how she acts towards the current Theon. Things are clearly /different/. With how attuned he is to her, he should have noticed some sort of change and tet he's resorting to similarly petty acts of jealousy. Getting back to what you said about people praising Ethan for trying to do the same while being negative towards Dorothea for trying to live normally and show empathy —Ethan spent the same amount of time in this timeline as she did and is only now trying to redeem himself as a person. The empathy way Dorothea shows Theon, someone whom she was hurt by and to whom she feels extreme guilt for hurting, is far more deserving of that praise considering empathy was essentially a foreign concept for her at the beginning of the story. Though yeah irl I wouldn't speak to someone who did me dirty like that again either.

I feel like they both in the wrong for real cuz they both are being jealous and assuming shit and also she doesn't really make it that obvious that she "doesn't love him that much anymore" (-_-)

Also Which one are you talking about?When you said that "if that happened to me irl",Honestly same, But like if I was her or him I wouldn't talk to them Cause they really did each other dirty

Replying to your other reply: Personally? I was talking about Ethan because I’m not into jealous men and because of what I say below. Dorothea I’d give benefit of the doubt. Regarding the story? I need them to talk because I love this story about two terrible people struggling to be better and, while they clearly aren’t there yet, I’m here for the ride. But like damn…Ethan really shot himself in the foot by dragging in not just Monica, but a reminder of his long and complicated history with women (romantic or not). Like he had to stop once he realized that, despite good intentions, he was acting the same awful way he used to. Dorothea may not have cared much before, but that confession of two lifetimes worth of yearning, when combined with the scandals, starts to become worthy of another discussion. For her part, the romantic overtones of the situation were mostly Theon’s fault. She wants to help him because she’s empathetic, not because she’s hopelessly in love. Like they’re both at fault yeah, but at the same time, you can’t exactly put them on the same level. Also like, Theon might not be part of the regression club but his jealousy towards Ethan is actively making this situation worse.
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Maybe obvious wasn’t the best word, I just think someone so devoted her should have been observant enough to at least notice something was different. Friend idk I’ve read this series too many times, so it might just be obvious to me specifically atp

Yeah same and your right but I Still feel like they're in the same level because she in the past loved him so much that she went crazy and he in the past was a playboy , but they both had an awful past and he saw all of that and so has she Even if it's empathy I feel like he still thanks that she still loves him And she probably still thinks that he's a playboy But they both have changed But stuck in the past

lol the person you were replying to wasn’t me (og comment) tho this is what I mean

Yeah i meant when he opened the door to where Dorothea was, I wrote before he is trying to fix his life as well people praise him for that but they don’t do the same with Dorothea just because

What I'm little slow and I don't know how to answer you but really don't believe that he was trying to change he was still trying to keep how she was in the future but change the bad things that happened, he really wasn't trying to change in my point of view and she was trying to change everything but still stuck in past, I feel like are both stuck in the past and keep thinking what if that happens again?