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You’re right, and what he did in that moment was wrong, but his intention in meeting Monica had nothing to do with jealousy. He was trying to change the future for the better and hopefully prevent a future war. It was only after he fucked up that he realized he was going about things the same way he used to
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That's what I mean and also he did do that but he only did that because he was jealous that the girl he is in love with is with the guy that she is in love with and would kill herself for, but even if she's not in love with him anymore he does not know that. And he was never in a date in the first place , she assumed that like they're both in the wrong. But she can't have the audacity to be jealous when she's with the guy that she's was in love with and he's only with that girl to stop that war. And let me say this again he doesn't know that she isn't in love with him anymore
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I totally agree. And on the flip side of that, on top of not knowing she isn't in love with Theon anymore, Ethan's still acting like mutual affection is a lost cause. I think this is also him being unfair to Dorothea because he continues to assume she hasn't grown from who she was in the past, at least in this respect, even after he learns she also retained all of her memories. He is deeply aware of how deep Dorothea's obsession with Theon ran, but he's also known both of them since they were kids in this life and he's seen how she acts towards the current Theon. Things are clearly /different/. With how attuned he is to her, he should have noticed some sort of change and tet he's resorting to similarly petty acts of jealousy. Getting back to what you said about people praising Ethan for trying to do the same while being negative towards Dorothea for trying to live normally and show empathy —Ethan spent the same amount of time in this timeline as she did and is only now trying to redeem himself as a person. The empathy way Dorothea shows Theon, someone whom she was hurt by and to whom she feels extreme guilt for hurting, is far more deserving of that praise considering empathy was essentially a foreign concept for her at the beginning of the story. Though yeah irl I wouldn't speak to someone who did me dirty like that again either.
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Replying to your other reply: Personally? I was talking about Ethan because I’m not into jealous men and because of what I say below. Dorothea I’d give benefit of the doubt. Regarding the story? I need them to talk because I love this story about two terrible people struggling to be better and, while they clearly aren’t there yet, I’m here for the ride. But like damn…Ethan really shot himself in the foot by dragging in not just Monica, but a reminder of his long and complicated history with women (romantic or not). Like he had to stop once he realized that, despite good intentions, he was acting the same awful way he used to. Dorothea may not have cared much before, but that confession of two lifetimes worth of yearning, when combined with the scandals, starts to become worthy of another discussion. For her part, the romantic overtones of the situation were mostly Theon’s fault. She wants to help him because she’s empathetic, not because she’s hopelessly in love. Like they’re both at fault yeah, but at the same time, you can’t exactly put them on the same level. Also like, Theon might not be part of the regression club but his jealousy towards Ethan is actively making this situation worse.
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Maybe obvious wasn’t the best word, I just think someone so devoted her should have been observant enough to at least notice something was different. Friend idk I’ve read this series too many times, so it might just be obvious to me specifically atp
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Yeah same and your right but I Still feel like they're in the same level because she in the past loved him so much that she went crazy and he in the past was a playboy , but they both had an awful past and he saw all of that and so has she Even if it's empathy I feel like he still thanks that she still loves him And she probably still thinks that he's a playboy But they both have changed But stuck in the past
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What I'm little slow and I don't know how to answer you but really don't believe that he was trying to change he was still trying to keep how she was in the future but change the bad things that happened, he really wasn't trying to change in my point of view and she was trying to change everything but still stuck in past, I feel like are both stuck in the past and keep thinking what if that happens again?
If some guy confessed to me and suddenly appeared on a date with another woman I wouldn’t ever talk to him again.
bffr you all expect for Dorothy not to have any sort of empathy for Theon while she was deeply in love with him in the past and blames herself none stop for his death, she is feeling guilt and is trying to make up for her mistakes.
On the other hand Ethan is trying to make her jealous like I get his point but he could have just explained it like any normal person would instead he just covered it up and did the same mistake that he did in his past life which he knows it’s wrong, he literally regretted it just a minute after knowing it wasn’t the right move…
I get both of their sides its flustering how you blame Dorothy for being empathic and trying to fix her future to live normally while praising Ethan for the same thing…
I love him but come on he even knows what he did is fed up. You all just chose to ignore it