the jinx comparisons are laughable

Brother euugh
They're both rapist and shouldn't be at all supported weirdo.
And the whole back story shit has been used so much already like are y'all not tired lol fucking disgusting talking about a "difference"

I like this story for the plot and fucking hate zehnya and anyone who supports him already talking about some development or having a sad backstory is straight up wrong and shameless. Do you wake every morning feeling good knowing you haven't washed yourself in 2 weeks?

brother eugh to you lmao is your reading comprehension lost…

i literally admit theyre both rapists and never said i supported zhenya . not even defending him either!!! just said there’s a major reason why people stan zhenya > jae because of all the reasons i listed… please reread and circle back im begging you???

are you slow or ? im not even a stan, didnt excuse his actions, and never said i liked him dear LORD you need to get off the internet. you reek from all the way over there. do some yoga, read something other than yaoi, and drink a matcha babes

all i did was only give my food for thought on why zhenya stans exist and offer a reason for why the hate is so apparent for jae. the way you came off and argued for… nothing is really sad and pathetic because all the things you accused me of aren’t even true and based off you not understanding this paragraph correctly. im actually speechless you typed all this and not a single lightbulb went off in your head. lights are on but no one’s home

Sure but the PEOPLE STANNING ZHENYA DUDE tf i know what I did read you started seeing the words "reading comprehension" and ran with it lol. No people should be supporting zhenya nor jaebitch no matter what tf.

There is NO REASON people should be supporting zhenya defending him like that, try to learn how to read first. I know all about these type of plots about mafia guys being bad because of psychology problems or whatever but let's be real at one point with history repeating itself (roses and champagne, no reason) you can't defend this shit no more because it becomes disturbing and obviously targeted to freaks with rape kinks its becoming so obvious with what the author is doing too so it can get more attention. They can write a great pot, they got the talent just gotta get to baiting ╮(￣▽￣)╭

here’s a breakdown since you struggle

me: i get the hate for jae because of [lists reasons]. i get why people liked zhenya because his dynamic with tae was interesting before the violent rape

also me: admits is NOT to excuse the violent rape, but compared to jinx- zhenya came from a terrible environment and introduced to us as a ticking time bomb/psychopath/etc from the jump and im not surprised he’s a rapist! am i excusing it? no! all i did was admit im not surprised?????

idk where you got this weird sense of moral superiority but these are fictional adult characters as well who don’t have feelings or thoughts. reading and enjoying dead dove stories doesn’t determine your moral compass fyi. just because you struggle with reality and media consumption doesn’t mean other mature people do

Yeah OK I don't struggle with reality and media con sup soon cause I legit understand what you're trying to say yes it isn't surprising but still Idc zenhya should not be forgiven in anyway nor have any stans AT ALL.

you are losing the plot you are losing the plot. maybe i used that because you struggled with it and are doubling down for what reason exactly?? dude i get where you’re coming from but i deadass dgaf whether or not people stan him or jae because he’s not a real person and i know, as well as millions of other people, that his actions are horrible . this convo is hilarious to me because we literally agree about him/jae but the problem with you is that you believe im the spokesperson for the stans when i couldn’t care less

there’s a huge difference between people simping over a fictional evil character vs a real person my guy. one is just annoying and the other is genuinely problematic. please discover the difference and grow up

The main justification for fictitious rape porn is the fact that it is, fiction. But that only contributes to the big role pornography in general plays in rape culture. Pornography has a very distinct position in RC. Within porn, sex and violence are interconnected which can train people to be aroused by violent sex. This sends the incorrect message to the viewer that this is what ‘normal sex’ looks like. A lot of porn is explicitly ‘rape porn’ which portrays the incorrect message that people enjoy rape and that sexual is normal. The media (TV shows, books, art, social media) plays a very important role in rape culture as well. It can desensitise people to the seiousness of sexual violence, sexualises and objectifies victims bodies, and often sympathises with perpetrators instead of survivors. This is not to say reading or watching fictious rape pornography is inherently wrong but it is to say that justifying and supporting it only increases the stigma around rape and often impacts real victims exposed to this sort of media.

Yeah idgaf if they stand him either too good day then.

i genuinely think you struggle with reading comprehension and that’s not in a “haha you don’t get me and im making fun of you” way but in a concerned, please go back and digest what i say kind of way. baby he’s NOT REAL so it shouldn’t matter to you whether or not people like him unless people start harassing you for it

we can go about all day about how horrible he is- which is something i fully agree with- but i don’t get why you’re hounding me so badly for a take that doesn’t even translate anyone’s morals or beliefs. i didn’t say his psychology was an excuse to be a rapist!!! idk how many times i need to say this but i admitted i wasn’t SURPRISED he was characterized this way as he is known as a violent horrible mafia killing machine… not that someone’s upbringing is a valid reason to rape???

actually it does not! you are talking about porn with real people but there’s no scientific research articles that suggest written violent sexual content desensitizes the mind in ways real porn does. nor can it feed into rape culture? however i do agree with some points that it can impact real victims. with everything else, that’s fully based on your own personal bias + real data ONLY on porn with real people

Bro you're acting as if i'm trying to bully you or something. Just wanted to make my point and moved on matter fact I'm very satisfied with myself making you this frustrated like I don't know how to read (=^･^=)

umm you clearly did? you doubled down again but ok then

Fiction rape is not OK that's my point here no matter what

Guess you don't know how to read either.

i like how you were the one being sensitive and completely misunderstanding my entire post just to not thoughtfully reply to everything i said + pretend to not give a fuck for your own ego LOL

me being passionate is very different from frustrated :( but im sure you’re satisfied. that usually happens with people who struggle to listen but like to argue

I'm passionate too but I give up the moment someone tries to pull the "reading comprehension" thing on me so I thug it out cause I'm not wanna be heard.

and i had to be the one to tell you it in no way, shape, or form affects social norms or beliefs. only porn with real people does, as it does perpetuate violence specifically against women!! this belief is not backed up by anything other than you making that connection with real porn and written media (yaoi)