There's nothing wrong with you. I think Jo is 10000000000 times better than TJ
19 years tj fumbled ian, jo came in and it took him 9 months for ian to let him into his life. jo didn’t rescue ian or anything but he STAYED with him and actually helped him getting better. he’s been losing weight so jo cook for him, he’s been feeling stressed so jo took him out on a camping, he’s been feeling anxious so jo stayed to distract ian from overthinking
But these TJ stans are so delusional..oh but he built him a house, oh but they known each other for 19 years, oh but they are like family. PLEASE GTFO with those dumbass reasons. TJ stans seem to equate sexual chemistry with romantic chemistry and they think codependency means its a real bond.
Like Bruh."He is all I have" narrative is toxic but TJ stans seem to think its romantic.
I just read one of them saying if you have no trauma you are a boring character and yet so far Jo doesn't have trauma and he is a well written character. I find most readers dont know how to handle characters thay they are not familiar with and tend to like the typical cliche seme.
LOUDER FOR THE PPL WHO ROMANTICIZE ABUSE AT THE BACK they always try to criticize EVERYTHING jo did wrong, and choose to turn a blind eye on tj’s fucked up behavior even tj’s inner monologue already confirmed that he’s guilt tripping ian
For Real. they excuse TJ behavior just because his been in Ians life longer. I swear TJ cut chop off Ians foot and they will still find a reason to justify TJ behavior and say they belong together. TJ stans are so weird bro
BRO FORREAL Theres no reason for them to be so protective of someone who’s clearly so toxic, he’s been with him 19 years and they’re still so unstable and I think it’s a sign Jo is a good match for Ian. Sure TJs hot but Jo is too?!!? TJ looks like hes pushing 40 by now
That’s crazy. Be careful cause they might attack you. I don’t wanna go through that and I’m neutral team, I don’t really care but I’m also not up for TJ and Ian being together because of their codependency…it’s really not something to romanticize. I think most of them are kids shipping them.
Now some people have a reason to dislike Jo; sexual assault and manipulative apparently.
I hope they keep the same hate energy when CH 59 is uploaded (based off someone’s spoilers, Ian tries to make sexual advances on injured TJ and he resists, but eventually gives in. Coercion and still SA).
Everyone pisses me off. I swear if they are being biased I’ll go shat.
They’re gonna be so upset when they find out about this: “ Jo also prepares small dishes for Ian to heat up in the microwave if he gets hungry. Ian continues his quiet life, and he's not used to it. He and Jo make love every day, anywhere in the house. Ian wonders if he and Jo are in a relationship, since Jo is the only person Ian sees every day. In fact, Jo is so horny all the time that Ian has to say stop LOL.”
I legit can’t post my own post, stupid Mangago website. So I’ll post it in this reply section, sorry;
From CH 58:
Am I the only one weirded out by how intense the hate is towards Jo? When he was “good”, people called him boring. Now when he shows manipulative tendencies and SA, he’s evil. But they will ignore anything TJ does and tries to justify it all over Twitter and the gaslight. Like I know there are some Jo stans that are just as weird, but I’ve mostly seen TJ stans hate on anyone for speaking their perspective, justify TJ’s action and how romantic he is for building a house (without even consulting Ian cause it’s a surprise), etc.
I just checked out the comments on BATO for CH 59 (non English). And some of them were saying:
Pretty sure some were shaming Ian for sleeping with Jo. Nasty. The panels showed Jo and Ian fucking nearly daily. And some were asking for TJ to come back, like that’s gonna do anything…unfortunately TJ has his priorities somewhere else! I’m sure TJ is trying to protect Ian in his way, I don’t think it’s helping Ian.
“Remember when he (Jo) said "so don't do this with anyone else, only do it with me from now on" ch52 but Ian didn't hear it cuz he already passed out. He stays in Ian's house almost everyday now, that's crazy. Actually that's how he showed his insecurity. This is what y'all call a healthy relationship??”
I’m laughing. Does Ian look like he’s crying throwing up? Cause how is visiting someone’s home crazy? They are just mad Ian is freely fucking with Jo with consent. Do they think what Ian has with TJ is healthy? What do they want really? TJ stans have an issue with Jo saying that but not with TJ telling Ian to think about him only? At least don’t be biased. The hypocrisy is showing!
And another stated (word for word): “Idk how can people see these as something romantic, or in fact Ian is fine with these all. I dont think this chapter is somewhat romantic to Ian bcs deep inside he is conflicted whether this right thing to do or not. Meanwhile for Jo, it might be the opposite. But jo you can't confine someone like that as a way of love.”
I don’t think he’s confining Ian. Is he showing manipulative behavior? I believe so based off raws, but he is nowhere confining Ian. He’s literally only cooking, and for Ian, and he also helped Ian gain weight and was there for him.
Some readers in the comments stated: “Ian looks uncomfortable/not good”.
—But he’s still freely fucking with Ian? And whew was the care when Ian was anxious around TJ and being left behind, where was the care when Ian was feeling on edge almost every time with TJ? I know TJ didn’t mean to hurt him, but indirectly he does. Ian a grown man who can leave, but he didn’t and it’s hard to judge because I don’t know that language. But based off what I’m seeing, he seems okay. I see a lot of those stans trying to force a narrative that Ian is locked up by Jo and possessed or some shit, it’s ridiculous.
And another person stated that: Ian was asking himself in mind along the lines of; “What is my relationship with Jo?” And thinking about dating, but also that he might not be ready just yet.
I’ve already called out TJ flaws in the past (main acc) and same for Jo. I got attacked by both sides of the fandom so there’s that. I’d say I’m neutral side, I don’t like being glued to one character!
If Ian ends up with TJ, great! Just resolve the trauma please, trauma won’t go away, but I need them to fully and properly communicate. I’m willing to support whichever ship as long as it’s developed and not lazy writing.
They already saw the spoilers and their responses were "finally we can see when TJ and Ian first did it"
I highly doubt they will keep the same energy.
Lmaoo. I hope it’s just because some of them didn’t understand the language…
Some were justifying TJ taking advantage of Ian’s guilt by saying something but I forgot, it is on Twitter though, by a TJ Stan with pretty good following.
And I made a document since mangago won’t let me post this specifically for some reason:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18BYpDxGAvW34RExHFo9ydxtle2-VFUitn1YPwGSej8Q/edit
TJ Stans in Twitter also talked about Jo’s SA, hope they keep the same energy for Ian. It got so out of hand that author had to state that what Jo did was not rape.
Rape can be SA but not all SA’s are rape.
TJ stans are so messed up. Heres the thing my hate for TJ stronger than my love for Ian and Jo. its so wild they call Jo a boring character, but he is the most unique character out of all of them..Do you know how many TJ type characters I have come across while reading BL..
I cant find it now but there was a comment saying chapter 12 and chapter 52 are parallel to each other. in chapter 12 Ian asked TJ to fuck him till he passed out and he couldnt do it, but in chapter 52 Jo was able to do it. This isnt a surface level story..theres symbolism. but I think a lot of people unfortunately lack reading comprehension..Basically Jo was able to give Ian what he wanted.
I’ve read a lot of stories where the ML SA’s MC.
Jo is supposed to be “bland” in a way compared to the thrill of danger life. And I don’t think people get it. There are many TJ stans that already hate Jo despite not knowing him more than a few beginning chapters.
Their excuses are: He is bland.
When Jo manipulated Ian by showing him his hurt fingers and SA’ed Ian, fans are quick to jump to attack Jo. But they still defend TJ is what gets me. I don’t have an issue with Jo being slandered for the things he did. But let’s not forget TJ has sexually assaulted Ian even if Ian was not unconscious, I forgot the chapter but it was early chapters I think.
Word for word by TJ after SA’ing Ian (kissing him after shoving him against wall and Ian looked surprised): “Did you like it that much? How hard did he give it to you?”
He has also done other stuff but TJ stans are not ready.
TJ fans are angry at Jo for wanting Ian to sleep with him only? Lol.
They yap about assault, they should keep the same energy for TJ assaulting Ian with the kiss and asking how hard a guy gave it to him with an angry expression, making Ian guilty.
TJ stans come up with some of the most ridiculous narratives. One about eye color bs on Twitter . So they shouldn’t have an issue with Jo stans’ symbolism theory: As you said, “in chapter 12 Ian asked TJ to fuck him till he passed out and he couldnt do it, but in chapter 52 Jo was able to do it.”
Also, it’s never about toxicity for TJ stans since they defend toxicity hypocritically. It’s about finding something to hate on a character they don’t like.
I just read all 54 chapters in one shot and yes, it was good, but now reading the comments, i’m realizing everyone’s rooting for TJ.
When I started reading this story I saw Jo as the main character, and Ian and the love interest, and TJ as someone who he needed to get over.
So naturally, I didn’t even start to think of TJ and Ian as endgame because I thought Ian had to end up with Jo, because I thought of Jo as the main character.
Now i’m realizing i have a bad habit of rooting for someone right off the bat, and now i’m too attached to the idea of Jo and Ian to even consider TJ. I really didn’t think he was that special, aside from them being friends for years.