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피의 July 2, 2024 5:36 pm

In the latest Chapter 해원 is ignoring 해영(서) and 태겸 (고)
you can see that, though working 해원 looks visibly disturbed and still bothered by what happened on the trip, especially if he's ignoring 해영 who he still has conflicted feelings for. It doesn't help that 현우 is working beside 해원 in his 누나 restaurant. At first 현우 isn't sexually harassing 해원 and is even coming off as meek but toward the end of the chapter 현우 pushes 해원 down on the sofa, seemingly attempting to take advantage of him at work. Already a rough start for season 2 considering this is only the first chapter... and it will only continue to get worse from here; and no there is not a happy sending in the novel 논 제로섬, 해원 ends up with 해영 after trying to take his life. So those of you sticking around hoping 해원 will get revenge, he won't. The closest thing is that 해영, 태겸, and 현우 feel burdened with guilt after 해원 tries to end it. That's when 해영 feels sorry after treating 해원 poorly and apologizes. Still a very cheap outcome in my eyes considering 해영 was pouring boiling water on him, attempting to replace 해원, sexually harassing him. All of this hatred simply came from the fact 해원 lost his virginity to 태겸. When it's like 태겸 was your friend to begin with so why solely take it out on 해원 ?? Plus 태겸 practically pressured 해원 to have sex with him only getting him to, when he was drunk but 해영 still blames 해원 for whatever reason. I guess because 해영 has some sick twisted infatuation towards 해원, which is why he always asks 해원 if he still likes him after all the twisted things he does to him as reassurance, but slowly, even now 해원 begins to hate 해영 for all the stuff he is putting him through, 해원 still feels conflicted in terms of his emotion, as he doesn't understand why 해영 is punishing him like this, when it's over something as little as 해원 losing his virginity to somebody else that isn't 해영.... 해영 is a sociopath for sure.

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    피의 July 2, 2024 5:39 pm

    Hae-won - 해원
    Hae-young - 해영
    Tae-gyeom - 태겸
    Hyun-woo - 현우

    Guess July 2, 2024 7:12 pm

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    I want to correct something.

    1) In the latest chapter 37 of manhwa S2, Haewon hasn't ignored Haeyoung yet, he only ignored Taegyeom and Hyunwoo every time they texted him.

    2) Haeyoung did all of this not only because he feels angry and jealous that Haewon lost his virginity to Taegyeom, but also because he still wasn't aware of his feelings. He only realized that he had been in love with Haewon when Haewon tried to commit suicide by jumping off a cliff. That's when Haeyoung got depression and hallucinations and did self-harm. (Note: He doesn't pour boiling water on Haewon, Haeyoung actually poured it on his own hand when he had hallucinations, which made his hand ruined.) Actually, most novel readers are waiting for this part where Haeyoung does self-harm and begs forgiveness of Haewon.

    3) It does have a happy ending, at least in the side story.

    louna July 2, 2024 9:26 pm
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    where can i read the novel please ╥﹏╥

    Guess July 3, 2024 4:55 am
    where can i read the novel please ╥﹏╥ louna

    There's no good english translations so far, but if you want to read the raw, you can read it on official platform Ridibook.

    피의 July 3, 2024 6:53 am
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    1). Haewon did ignore Haeyoung as well as Taegyeom, you can see it in the contacts as Haeyoung's contact is 서 (his surname seo) and Taegyeom's contact is 고 (his surname Go). Haeyoung texts Haewon with his random sporadic messages and pictures (this case the bed sheets) and Harwon doesn't bother to respond, and same with Taegyeom.

    2). Most of Haeyoung's hatred DOES come from the fact Haewon lost his virginity to Taegyeom and it expressed multiple times throughout the novel even in instances where Haeyoung expresses hatred towards Taegyeom for having sex with Haewon, which in a sense is very contradictory considering his actions but then again Haeyoung acts as a sociopath. That's why he flips at Haewon whenever he finds out he has sex with the other guys without his "permission". At one point in the novel he snaps at Haewon going as far as saying something along the lines of "You just had to go have sec with Taegyeom, huh?" and acts as if he feels betrayed since Haewon is supposed to like him.

    As for the burns even if done by haewon's hand, haeyoung drove him to that point which is why I am still putting the fault on Haeyoung and his unrelenting abuse because in that situation Haewon was driven to a corner.

    3). Whether or not the ending is happy or not is very subjective, I do not consider it a happy ending and many others wouldn't; after haewon was practically gang raped, haeyoung tried to shove haewon's "better, look-alike" in his face, give him severe burns (ruin his looks), and even isolate him. Them ending up together isn't necessarily happy in my eyes and I'm sure in the eyes of many others as haewon, whether haeyoung is changed or not is stuck with his former abuser. - side story or not

    BTW English is not my first language so sorry for any grammatical errors

    피의 July 3, 2024 6:54 am
    where can i read the novel please ╥﹏╥ louna

    If you speak Korean I can forward it to you

    louna July 3, 2024 8:00 am
    If you speak Korean I can forward it to you 피의

    i do speak a little bit, please and thank you!

    Nimu July 3, 2024 8:54 am
    i do speak a little bit, please and thank you! louna

    Please share

    Guess July 3, 2024 1:40 pm
    1). Haewon did ignore Haeyoung as well as Taegyeom, you can see it in the contacts as Haeyoung's contact is 서 (his surname seo) and Taegyeom's contact is 고 (his surname Go). Haeyoung texts Haewon with his r... 피의

    1) In chapter 37 manhwa, Haeyoung and Taegyeom did text Haewon. But Haewon said in his thought that he often received calls and texts from Go Taegyeom and Joo Hyunwoo, but he didn't answer to anyone except Seo Haeyoung. He still answered Haeyoung's text and didn't ignore him yet, he only ignored Taegyeom and Hyunwoo's text.

    2) Yes, Haeyoung is angry and jealous that Haewon lost his virginity to Taegyeom. He didn't like the fact that, even though Haewon said that he liked Haeyoung, Haewon slept with someone else, but at this time, Haeyoung still hadn't realized his feelings. When Haeyoung realized his feelings in the end, he changed his attitude and begged Haewon for forgiveness because he didn't want to lose Haewon again. Haeyoung told Haewon, because he loves Haewon, he will treat Haewon nicely even though he is still disappointed that Haewon lost his virginity to Taegyeom. As for the burn, it wasn't because of Haewon's hand. As I said before, Haeyoung poured boiling water on her own hands when she was hallucinating. So the burn was on Haeyoung's hand, and Haeyoung's hand became ugly because of that.

    3) A story can be categorized as having a having a happy ending or not is not subjective, as the definition of a happy ending is the ending of a story in which the main characters involved are happy. Since Haewon is happy with Haeyoung in the end, it can still be called a happy ending, whether the viewer likes it or not.

    Guess July 3, 2024 1:44 pm
    1). Haewon did ignore Haeyoung as well as Taegyeom, you can see it in the contacts as Haeyoung's contact is 서 (his surname seo) and Taegyeom's contact is 고 (his surname Go). Haeyoung texts Haewon with his r... 피의

    There are some typos in my previous comment, so I resend the comment again.

    1) In chapter 37 manhwa, Haeyoung and Taegyeom did text Haewon. But Haewon said in his thought that he often received calls and texts from Go Taegyeom and Joo Hyunwoo, but he didn't answer to anyone except Seo Haeyoung. He still answered Haeyoung's text and didn't ignore him yet, he only ignored Taegyeom and Hyunwoo's text.

    2) Yes, Haeyoung is angry and jealous that Haewon lost his virginity to Taegyeom. He didn't like the fact that, even though Haewon said that he liked Haeyoung, Haewon slept with someone else, but at this time, Haeyoung still hadn't realized his feelings. When Haeyoung realized his feelings in the end, he changed his attitude and begged Haewon for forgiveness because he didn't want to lose Haewon again. Haeyoung told Haewon, because he loves Haewon, he will treat Haewon nicely even though he is still disappointed that Haewon lost his virginity to Taegyeom. As for the burn, it's not done by Haewon's hand. As I said before, Haeyoung poured boiling water on his own hands when he was hallucinating. So the burn was on Haeyoung's hand, and Haeyoung's hand became ugly because of that.

    3) A story can be categorized as having a having a happy ending or not is not subjective, as the definition of a happy ending is the ending of a story in which the main characters involved are happy. Since Haewon is happy with Haeyoung in the end, it can still be called a happy ending, whether the viewer likes it or not.

    Niki July 3, 2024 9:36 pm

    Can u share me the the link for novel please

    피의 July 4, 2024 6:16 am
    There are some typos in my previous comment, so I resend the comment again.1) In chapter 37 manhwa, Haeyoung and Taegyeom did text Haewon. But Haewon said in his thought that he often received calls and texts f... Guess

    So you are just repeating what I said? Or just missing the point... I am confused or is my comprehension of English just failing me?? Also once again 3). Is subjective in other words, your opinion; so no I do not consider Haewon being stuck with his abuser a happy ending.

    피의 July 4, 2024 6:18 am
    i do speak a little bit, please and thank you! louna

    https://ridibooks.com/books/793013046 make an account this website offers the full novel; I am unsure if you are a foreigner or the account is possible

    Guess July 4, 2024 7:43 am
    So you are just repeating what I said? Or just missing the point... I am confused or is my comprehension of English just failing me?? Also once again 3). Is subjective in other words, your opinion; so no I do n... 피의

    Guess, you're the one who are not reading or not understand my comment. I'm here to correct of your half-false spoiler on point 1) and 2). 3) The definition of happy ending is not subjective, it has clear definition.

    피의 July 4, 2024 2:25 pm
    Guess, you're the one who are not reading or not understand my comment. I'm here to correct of your half-false spoiler on point 1) and 2). 3) The definition of happy ending is not subjective, it has clear defin... Guess

    What someone finds "happy" or not is subjective, hope this helps! And you did nothing except speak like a broken record player

    Guess July 4, 2024 4:05 pm
    What someone finds "happy" or not is subjective, hope this helps! And you did nothing except speak like a broken record player 피의

    Looks like someone just really can't comprehend english. I can guess you can't comprehend korean as well because you clearly state some wrong informations, but can't accept the truth even though I just come to correct it nicely.

    피의 July 4, 2024 4:50 pm
    Looks like someone just really can't comprehend english. I can guess you can't comprehend korean as well because you clearly state some wrong informations, but can't accept the truth even though I just come to ... Guess

    Korean is my native language thanks! Wouldn't expect more or less disrespect from a Japanese; you're stating an opinion as fact and I'm telling you that, that just isn't the case

    Guess July 4, 2024 8:09 pm
    Korean is my native language thanks! Wouldn't expect more or less disrespect from a Japanese; you're stating an opinion as fact and I'm telling you that, that just isn't the case 피의

    I also understand Korean, but I'm sure some of the spoilers you mentioned are not exactly true, that's why I corrected some of them. I don't say you don't understand Korean, but some people sometimes can ignore the details or maybe comprehend something differently even if it's their native language, since I often find that kind of people in various languages.

    And it's not about my opinion. Actually, what I explained before is a general definition of a happy ending, that's why I say it's not subjective. It's not necessarily about this story, but in general. I don't want to force it if you still keep thinking that way though.

    피의 July 4, 2024 8:43 pm
    I also understand Korean, but I'm sure some of the spoilers you mentioned are not exactly true, that's why I corrected some of them. I don't say you don't understand Korean, but some people sometimes can ignore... Guess

    I just find it ironic that you say that I can't speak Korean as if that isn't my first language, and once again your basing your opinion as fact I do not consider 해원 ending up with someone who basically tortured him a happy ending, thus it IS subjective and an opinion. That is not good. And the spoilers I did give are accurate minus me saying that Haeyoung had boiling water on Haewon I could've better explained that Haewon was mentally suffering and self inflicted, but either way it's not necessarily inaccurate since it is due to haeyoung's hand that haewon was driven into a corner and mentally unstable. If Korean isn't your native language don't tell me what I know about my own language 미친놈외국인

    피의 July 4, 2024 8:47 pm
    I also understand Korean, but I'm sure some of the spoilers you mentioned are not exactly true, that's why I corrected some of them. I don't say you don't understand Korean, but some people sometimes can ignore... Guess

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