Eww the MC

asmiir_ June 15, 2024 1:44 am

Is so rude and blunt it throws me off sometimes

I know it’s not his fault and not his responsibility on how everyone reacts but my bro can you chill for one second and not spout off nonsense ( ̄へ ̄)

I love how the ML is trying really hard rn because he wants his mind off his abusive mother, shows he’s precious and needs lots of care and a gentle approach

Responses
    dazai June 15, 2024 4:37 am

    Hi sorry for butting in. I get your point, your own opinion. So I'm also gonna make my opinion and criticize your opinion regarding on how the MC treated the ML in the public environment.

    First of all, We already know how their relationships works and we've always known that the MC's personality is really blunt and dull. So he does not care about what the others say except for himself. But after encountering with the MC his perspective in life changed. For example, dating and being in a relationship with someone, doesn't really suit with the MC's taste. But for MC he did all of that. And we can all see how understanding the ML is towards the ML. That's why he fell in love with him. So, regarding the issue we can predict that the MC did it for his sake, he knows what's wrong, so handled that quickly. We could also assume that the way the MC treated the ML in public space is okay for him. Because he knows now too well how the MC's mindset work. And you can't just say that this is common sense. Because if you clearly read the whole story, their very attached to each other. Therefore, we can say ML understands the MC's bluntness and it shows LITERALLY in the panel or chapter that he does not care about what other people say because its the MC that he got criticized about. He knows well the MC, so he always does his best to improve. That's why don't compare the ML to other people like calling out in work in front of your workmates or calling out someone in front of other people, just because of their mistakes. We could CLEARLY see how worried the MC is towards the ML. So he does his best to comfort him in the way he wants. Because if he probabyly ask the ML, he would just flat-out reject the idea and isolate his self into his room and house. Being melancholic about his motther. So, in this situation, its best to have someone your side, especially your loved ones. To gather courage and strength to be able to move and face the problems you've been stressing and struggling lately. Again, this is also just my opinion, so you can criticize me about it. I'm also just irritated about how you went up to the hypothesis that the MC is rude, like sis, it doesn't add up. If you know well the story then you could clearly understand their relationship. That's common sense tbh.

    Second of all, yeah it's wrong to be called out in public but sometimes, for other people, it drives their determination and perseverance into a whole new level. I myself, also got called out once in the public with other people but I didn't get embrassment ahead of myself. Why? Because its true, you just need to focus on yourself, not what other people think about you. They also have problems that their encountering and the world doesn't revolve around you. So sometimes you just gotta open yourself into the reality and understand that people are working hard just much as you do. The way the MC called out ML's mistake is not just for his sake but for his workmates sake. Because they're all working hard and striving their ass's off to project the film. And in the chapter, their workmates is also worried for the ML's behavior they ought to do the filming in the other day. That's also why the person whispered something through MC's ears, to know what's going on. Because if it continues, it'll affect the whole team and their filming. Therefore, the MC is just being considerate towards all his workmates, even if he doesn't notice that and the MC is also worried and curious about how he might help him regarding his mother. The way the MC dragged him of in the arcade is for ML to relieve his stress but doesn't seem like it. But at least he tried his best comforting the ML

    This doesn't have to a big deal regarding of many replies comments that states in your opinion. But, expect their would be lots of criticism on how you called the MC rude, yes he's blunt, that's how his personality works. So the ML and everyone tries to understand him. It even happens in real life. Also, everyone LOVES the MC. So you could clearly see how everyone wants to defend him. Don't say that we tolerate his behavior but its his way of doing things, that's HOW his personality works and thats the MAIN NARRATIVE that makes this story engaging and mesmerizing. You'll just get curious until the end on how he ended up with the ML.

    Cid June 15, 2024 5:43 am
    I see, I understand what you mean. Thank you for your input! I think it really depends on the case. My use of the word 'always' was kind of wrong. I think we have to have balance between both ways.But it's not ... Harumaki

    I'm not good at giving compliments as I'm not fluent in english but I admire your work, your patience and your kindness. I know that it's hard and I really admire people like you.

    I get you. I experienced it and witnessed it. Like asmiir, I also dislike that kind of blunt people who don't care much about other people's feelings but MC is so much different from people I encountered so I perceived her as 'quite' sensitive. It is not my intention to offend asmiir. But I want her/him to know that it is not impossible to see her/him like that BASED on the comment.

    People I know don't know what "psychologically" mean and that is out of their mind when talking to someone so what you say about being tactful doesn't really work on that kind of circumstances.

    But yeah, being tactful in comments really doesn't work even if you're careful of the words you use some people see it as offensive so I didn't care much. But I'm still being tactful whenever I speak to a person face to face cuz that's how you will know about how they feel if you see them personally right?

    So yeah, don't know how to end this hehe
    You don't have to say sorry about the long post because I also do the same. I read them all, I can assure you. :)

    Wrongsideoftherainbow June 15, 2024 5:44 am
    In this case I'll will defend asmiir... Not everyone has the right mind to hear direct words like this. Maybe you think that you're helping being blunt, but for some you're just pushing them to the pit. That's ... Harumaki

    Omg I soo agree with you. You never know where someone mentally is. I mean the most depressed people can look the happiest outside but someone being too blunt can push them to the edge and I'm pretty sure that's what the author is going for. Idk I have a feeling that they are gonna momentarily break up for the ml bluntness. But bluntness sometime is required but first u have to know what's going on in the person's life. Had it been a real life case where a person has a lot of abuse trauma and depression, words like this coming from from your lover could really hit like a true. It would make u feel like u are becoming completely useless and people don't need u anymore. It's not a matter of being sensitive. It's a matter of responding to trauma in a certain way. Especially for cases like out top. We have had certain glimps of social anxiety in his character or lack of trust. And then u trust someone and they behave like this in public. The uke is like Sheldon from big bang theory and honestly not matter how much people like him for being so blunt, these people are a headache irl. I could have understood it if it was someone else instead of the uke being blunt. But honestly other ways of handling stuff instead of being blunt especially with your lover. But idk this story is literally going to show the uke being I did this for u and they kiss and whatever have sex and they make up.

    Wrongsideoftherainbow June 15, 2024 5:50 am
    Hi sorry for butting in. I get your point, your own opinion. So I'm also gonna make my opinion and criticize your opinion regarding on how the MC treated the ML in the public environment.First of all, We alread... dazai

    I think we are absolutely forgetting how mc literally used ml for his own project and gave ml the wrong idea. So u really think a relationship like this would have worked irl. Also firstly it began with him being blunt, I don't know how much he cared for him in the beginning. Idk their relationship is really extremely complicated beyond anything and as the plot goes I'm pretty sure that ml is going to find out that he was being used in the beginning and both are gonna go on a break or whatever.

    Wrongsideoftherainbow June 15, 2024 6:00 am
    I disagree with you on "we have to be tactful always"I'm also the type to be tactful when saying things cuz I know there's someone who is sensitive. Which proves me wrong.I became so tactful I ended up not sayi... Cid

    Tough love is not always the answer. With a person who is sensitive but can stand up for myself if people are being rude to me I can tell you this much that u don't always have to say the truth and u need to be tactful when situation requires. Relationships are based on understanding. Being in such a relationship where it started because of the other person being to honest I can tell u that u don't have to speak your mind always. He could have handled it by taking him to a corner and asking what's wrong. U are just gonna make the other person stiffen up more becoz now they are gonna be scared to do more fuck ups. And that is not the solution here. Also the mc has been with the ml for a long time to know that something is wrong with him coz previously for presentation and stuff he did pretty well. Also the ml should have just taken a leave if he was genuinely not feeling well. Bad way to handle this situation. Mc could have taken him to the side and asked whether he could carry on. Had they not been dating I would not have said anything. Like can u expect u father talking like this your mom in front of everyone.

    Cid June 15, 2024 6:34 am
    Hi sorry for butting in. I get your point, your own opinion. So I'm also gonna make my opinion and criticize your opinion regarding on how the MC treated the ML in the public environment.First of all, We alread... dazai

    I agree to the part of "you just need to focus on yourself, not what others think of you" you explained properly what I didn't mention on my previous comments.

    People are so conscious of what others think that it hinders them to grow as a better person.

    It is important to think about rationally what a blunt person would say because even if they sounded harsh it is the truth. You can get annoyed or irritated whenever you want but don't biasly unheard what they are trying to say. Be strong, fam!

    Cid June 15, 2024 6:56 am
    Tough love is not always the answer. With a person who is sensitive but can stand up for myself if people are being rude to me I can tell you this much that u don't always have to say the truth and u need to be... Wrongsideoftherainbow

    That is not tough love. You misunderstood me. What I said literally is the same when you said "when situation requires". That is why I said "if you NEED" I didn't say 'ALWAYS'.

    Harumaki already understood that.

    As you said, not ALL people is strong enough to handle "bluntness" but not ALL people will change to be TACTFUL because you say so.

    All you have to do is to balance. Learn how to adjust for yourself and for the others too.

    Not everyone will cater anyone who is mentally unstable, because first of all they don't know, unless they put up a sign saying "I'm mentally unstable so please be kind to me." That won't work IRL because not all people WILL CARE. And that's the sadiest part.

    I also dislike blunt people who doesn't care about what others feel but I think you misunderstood MC biasly.

    I tell you what, being blunt doesn't ALWAYS bad. It just became bad because the person who receives a blunt response says so. It is ALWAYS depends on the person.

    I'm not antagonizing anyone especially with person that is mentally unstable or have trauma. I also have that but I learned how to adjust because the WHOLE world won't do that for me.

    Besides ML doesn't mind the "feedback" his lover said. He knows he's not okay and he accepted it but the arcade doesn't help him much. But what can we do? MC is not PERFECT. The muse part will obviously be tackled later on but that's not the issue rn.

    ZuraJanai June 15, 2024 7:03 am

    I do get what you mean and I don't think responses dismissing how ppl feel by calling them "sensitive" is the thing to do here.
    But then the very first thing your post is literally "eww the mc". How do you expect a point to get across of thinking about your words and treating ppl with care with a title like that

    ZuraJanai June 15, 2024 7:07 am
    I do get what you mean and I don't think responses dismissing how ppl feel by calling them "sensitive" is the thing to do here. But then the very first thing your post is literally "eww the mc". How do you expe... ZuraJanai

    oops my bad it's very late so my brain ain't englishing too gud lol

    Cid June 15, 2024 7:12 am
    Tough love is not always the answer. With a person who is sensitive but can stand up for myself if people are being rude to me I can tell you this much that u don't always have to say the truth and u need to be... Wrongsideoftherainbow

    Also I disagree with the "bad way to handle this situation" because I agree with dazai when he/she said that MC "calling him out" is not just for the sake of ML but also for the sake of their workmates. Don't tell me you didn't take a consideration to their workmates in that kind of situation? They are in the work setting, of course you have TO BE PROFESSIONAL.

    It sucks if relationship gets in a way with work. Yes they are dating but personal is personal and work is work. Don't forget that.

    And the part where a farther talks like that to his wife is not uncommon especially to dramas. XD That is so far comparison in this scene. Come on.

    asmiir_ June 15, 2024 7:19 am
    I do get what you mean and I don't think responses dismissing how ppl feel by calling them "sensitive" is the thing to do here. But then the very first thing your post is literally "eww the mc". How do you expe... ZuraJanai

    LMAOO I agree I should’ve put a gentle comment on this matter but I didn’t know this comment section would get so flared up ( ̄∇ ̄")

    I just find call out situations in public really anxiety inducing and I’m not overtly blaming the MC at all.. I just find that behavior to be a bit much from the ML perspective! I also can see that the MC has a certain way of handling things, I just find it a bit much to handle on my end and I wouldn’t have the capacity to deal with on a daily basis.

    asmiir_ June 15, 2024 7:26 am
    Hi sorry for butting in. I get your point, your own opinion. So I'm also gonna make my opinion and criticize your opinion regarding on how the MC treated the ML in the public environment.First of all, We alread... dazai

    Wow! Thank you for this response! I agree with some of your points. Their relationship is developing and they understand the importance in bridging their differences especially when it comes to confrontation and conflict..

    I also can see how his attitude and personality is one of the main driving plot points. I also can see how since the filming was a group effort, ML had a duty to continue filming, especially considering the crunch deadline and their space being up for grabs, adequately and promptly without delay. I just wish since all the commenters defended the MC brusque way of speaking and mannerism, that they also lend an olive branch to the ML and his need to achieve optimal and best results in everything he seeks to do (stemming from his trauma and emotionally unreliable Mother).

    I just don’t agree that a call-out in public is in any way conducive to a strong work ethic beyond creating a pathway of self toxicity that can warp their understanding of healthy habits in workplaces.

    I also am excited to see how this story unfolds as it is one of my favorites! It’s so engaging and their love life is really realistic and evokes feelings from me as a writer/reader!

    Cid June 15, 2024 7:34 am
    I do get what you mean and I don't think responses dismissing how ppl feel by calling them "sensitive" is the thing to do here. But then the very first thing your post is literally "eww the mc". How do you expe... ZuraJanai

    I know it is insensitive to say they are sensitive but how can you exactly describe it? Idk I have a small collection of vocabulary. Though, it is not my intention to offend asmiir. This is just my opinion.

    It really is fascinating to read discussions like this because it really broaden my understanding of other people because they have different take on the situation and I get to see what I didn't notice in the first time I read it. Some people have a deeper understanding and some were just a troll but it is still good to read all of this.

    ZuraJanai June 15, 2024 3:54 pm
    LMAOO I agree I should’ve put a gentle comment on this matter but I didn’t know this comment section would get so flared up ( ̄∇ ̄")I just find call out situations in public really anxiety inducing and ... asmiir_

    Ya I get you, if it was in real life being told "what is wrong with you" when underperforming in a public setting would definitely not help me and give me anxiety.
    I think ppl would have been more receptive if you just took out the title lol

    Harumaki June 15, 2024 5:30 pm
    I'm not good at giving compliments as I'm not fluent in english but I admire your work, your patience and your kindness. I know that it's hard and I really admire people like you.I get you. I experienced it and... Cid

    Thank you so much! Your really kind! And don't worry, English it's not my first language too.
    I understand well what you mean. I think everyone in the comments section has a valid point, we just have different experiences and traumas in the end. But I'm really happy to have such a healthy debate in the internet. Never happens hahahah
    And dudes, I never saw a topic in mangago with more than one page of responses hahaha we are on fire here

    Harumaki June 15, 2024 5:40 pm
    Omg I soo agree with you. You never know where someone mentally is. I mean the most depressed people can look the happiest outside but someone being too blunt can push them to the edge and I'm pretty sure that'... Wrongsideoftherainbow

    Yess, I agree! Since the Uke it's clearly on the spectrum, I understand that he's blunt in a way. He is trying his best despite everything.
    But I don't agree with people saying that we should act like this too and if someone doesn't like they are too sensitive... For some people it's really hard.
    But I also understood the point of the commenting people now. Sometimes we have to be a little blunt, or people will abuse our kindness. It's all about tact and balance

    Roronoa Zoro June 15, 2024 8:39 pm
    True I can see how getting straight to the point calms others.. I just don’t like how he has no tact and always presumes his opinion or viewpoint as the standard and it kinda irritates me. Again I know it’s... asmiir_

    If i didn't know him irl I'd probably think he's a dick ngl lmao however considering this is fiction and I can hear all his thoughts, I appreciate his realness at times

    WrittenPoetry June 16, 2024 2:19 am

    Everyone is different. There is a balance, but that balance pivots depending on the situation. Luckily we have free will and can choose who we interact with (most of the time). While you can choose to be tactful or be more free-spirited and speak your mind, those of us on the autism spectrum DO actually try to be "normal," but it doesn't always come out right.

    Whether you choose to be tactful or free-spirited/speak your mind, please keep in mind that some of us autistic folks aren't built the same. You can try to hold us to the same standards, but it is what it is. If you feel attacked, try and consider WHY you feel that way and try to see things from the other person's perspective (consider they might not be neurotypical and are trying their best).

    Thanks for being a neurospicy ally Harumaki! (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

    WrittenPoetry June 16, 2024 2:21 am

    This is why we need representation... ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    Harumaki June 16, 2024 2:37 am
    Everyone is different. There is a balance, but that balance pivots depending on the situation. Luckily we have free will and can choose who we interact with (most of the time). While you can choose to be tactfu... WrittenPoetry

    Thank you! I'm the kind thats always writing giant educational posts, and people often says I'm annoying, or that my texts are too long to read hahaha
    So your thanks made me really happy (≧∀≦)
    And I couldn't speak any better, representation it's really important so we can understand and consider more other people's sides. We can't learn how to have more balance if we only know one side.