That’s exactly what I said like damn, why’s it gotta be tribal
Why not?
A lot of if not most cultures that have tribal tattoos view people outside of their culture as disrespectful if they get tribal tattoos since a lot of them have meanings that are important to that cultural and it’s not insinuated that Muhyeok is part of a cultural that hold those tattoos as something very important so it’s super disrespectful
Culture appropriation. As the person has already explained, it doesn’t seem as tho the character has ties be it personal or through relationships to tribal culture so there should be any reason why he’s got that type of tattoo
*shouldn’t be any reason
It's just a pattern it's not like he is a colonizers showing off to his slaves, people often tattoo various things from other cultures without knowing any better, are you from tribe and feel offended? Or are you getting offended just for sake of it?
“Just a pattern” is a phrase that clearly shows just how little you understand how ingrained certain things can be for people within cultures. That’s very devaluing to cultural practices. Just because they didn’t know any better or you don’t understand why it can be important for people within those cultures doesn’t mean that it cannot cause hurt. Otherwise, neglect for example wouldn’t be a thing. It’s still neglect even if the person didn’t mean to. Granted, neglect doesn’t apply to this, it is merely an example.
I’m more curious as to why you’re defending culture appropriation. And yes, I myself am not from a Caucasian background so I do find it a bit offensive when people claim smth that’s a part of a culture that isn’t theirs as smth that isn’t important or doesn’t have important history and/or tradition behind it. It’s not that difficult to have done some research first and chosen smth that wasn’t so culturally aligned. Either that, or given him an actual reason behind cultural tattoos. Of course, in the end we can’t really change anything about it, we’re just expressing our disappointment which we, just like you, have the right to do.
If you don’t understand why we’re explaining this, maybe do some research on cultural appropriation or on tribal tattoos. If you want to simply dismiss smth as “just a pattern” I can’t help you there but I’m just trying to show you my (a POC) point of view.
In addition to the issues mentioned in the other comments, I simply don't like the style, tribal tattoo makes me assimilate him with a straight man in 2010~2012, it's not a style that I think is cool, but cybertribal I like for example
I think Muhyeok would go much better with dark style, blackwork, blackout, oldschool, watercolor, oriental, lettering... with skulls, knives and things like that, but since that's how the author chose it I can't do anything but imagine
Well my point of view comes from not carrying about things that don't effect others, if someone would want to use my culture symbols because they look cool, I wouldn't mind. I think your point is valid while talking about using some else culture without respect for example, Nazis used sphastic orginaly symbol of peace for genocide, but since it's never mentioned in the series we can assume there wasn't any ill will behind choosing this pattern. I think we shouldn't be so quick to be offended on others over small things, we have much bigger word problems then taking inspiration from other cultures art/traditions/ect., I recommend donating some funds for charity organizations that helps people from whatever culture you will feel offended for instead of wasting time and energy on moral debates over fictional comics, you will feel so much better after that
He would look cool for sure with tattoos like that <3 but for me those also look good on him
Not sis getting oppressed by a gay webtoon Character LOL go touch some grass
I’m just explaining my own POV as a queer person of color -shrug- just because it’s a gay webtoon doesn’t mean people can’t have serious discussions (god how boring and mindless would that be). Also, life often imitates art and vice versa so it’s not that far of a reach considering how history works but again, idk man, I’m just expressing my own opinion just like you are
Been there and done that + with volunteer work! c: you’re absolutely right that people should contribute to organizations that fight against racism, but bringing attention to certain issues people might not have knowledge about is just as important ^ ^
Good for you for volunteering and not only talk about stuff on the internet, but remember that an author of this comic is also a POC person, so I don't think your skin color is important in this discussion
You…do realize that POC can be racist to other POC…right…?
I just think that being POC person isn't really relevant in this discussion, if it doesn't matter that author is a POC person, why it shouldmatter that you're one? I think you're over sensitive about the matter that isn't even related to your culture
I hate this “it’s just art” argument, art has always had serious issues and messages no matter how stupid the art is. And I would not be telling someone to touch grass since we’re reading the WEBTOON illegally off a manga site it’s ok to criticize art especially since art has racist past
Imagine burglar coming to your home and saying wow that painting on your wall is racist now I'm justified to rob you, that's your logic here
Also I think people nowadays says racism without even knowing the definition of the word, we truly live in a sad world
What does a burglar have to do with anything of this topic? That’s literally not my logic at all I’m so confused bc I never said anything about justifying anything! And no art history was very racist! Literally go look up how poc are resembled in earlier American art. That’s why a lot of people tend to be a little iffy on things when it comes to cultural appropriation
Doesnt matter how much hot Muhyeok is, i cant stop hating the fact that he only has tribal tattoos