mc is literally just a victim

smol.st June 10, 2024 12:41 am

i understand yall but u guys do know what trauma is and how it affects a person right?

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    asmiir_ June 10, 2024 1:32 am

    I agree!! I just find it frustrating that from his close friends to a random person from work(director)..

    These people are professing that Minhyung is unsettling and weird.. at least that should warrant a chance to verify those claims? But no he refuses to acknowledge them.. I think it shows that he may want the problem to just magically “disappear” and for their relationship to stay the same..

    He’s written to be so frustratingly near sighted regardless of trauma impacting him or not..

    Daiku ♥ June 10, 2024 5:45 am

    There’s a difference between trauma and willing ignorance. Especially when you have EVERY SINGLE PERSON (aside from your abuser) tell you that your relationship with your ‘brother’ (abuser) is mad weird. Everywhere the MC looks, someone is warning him about it, and even then he still refuses to even give it some thought.

    It’s honestly unrealistic. Because even a heavily traumatized person could at least wonder about and acknowledge a fact, they’re not stupid.

    smol.st June 10, 2024 6:20 am

    idk i kinda disagress with you guys. mc thought of this guy as his literal only family member left after his parents died and his lover too and had instances where the white dude was close to it (i assume). serious abandonment issues. he wont listen to some friends or strangers bc thats all they are to him, he isnt close to any of them (thanks to white guy's gaslighting and manipulation "you only need me hyung") hes genuinely fucked up in the head like mentally unwell sad, he relies on white guy for the familiar emotional support and he is the ONLY emotional support he has (again the friends and director are just friends and director to him. hes been isolated from them and its HEAVILY implied in the story)

    also no way this is unrealistic, are u kidding? he is 'stupid' bc hes being manipulated so much he looking at the world through rose colored glasses the white guy GAVE HIM

    Zuzu June 10, 2024 8:32 am
    idk i kinda disagress with you guys. mc thought of this guy as his literal only family member left after his parents died and his lover too and had instances where the white dude was close to it (i assume). ser... smol.st

    Yes he’s totally frustrating for us as readers, but he only knows what he knows. Cut out all the information from other scenes for our benefit and we’d probably be on the fence about M. Plus Y would have to accept some horrible possibilities that are beyond his imagination if he clues in to M’s psychotic side … so I think he’s doing the best he can as a guy who can only see M as an innocent kid who needs to be protected sort of thing ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍

    Daiku ♥ June 10, 2024 8:46 am
    idk i kinda disagress with you guys. mc thought of this guy as his literal only family member left after his parents died and his lover too and had instances where the white dude was close to it (i assume). ser... smol.st

    No im not kidding lmao. It IS unrealistic because even though he is isolated and manipulated, he has his own thoughts that cannot be fully controlled by his abuser (unless mc tells him what he’s thinking). Its the fact that the author chose to have the MC behave like some brainless, thoughtless, dude that genuinely doesn’t question anything anyone else does that gives off bad writing and plot armor for the abuser.

    it’s really the lack of influence the other characters make in the MC’s life that makes it all so infuriating because it’s contradictory. MC is very clearly insecure about being alone, and yet doesn’t see that any time he tries to branch out his social circle there’s always his “hyung” there to stop him from doing so. Yes I KNOW he’s being manipulated, but that shouldn’t stop the MC from thinking “what’s wrong with having someone else in my life?” ESPECIALLY when he HAS questioned why his past friendships deteriorated as time went by.

    It’s clear that he knows having more people around would “fix” things, and yet when his abuser comes in and ruins his attempts at getting that, MC STILL doesn’t see a problem?

    It’s dumb. And I’m not saying the MC need to be having this revelation and getting mad and confrontational about it, I’m just saying he should AT LEAST be thinking about the possibility that the closest person he has MIGHT just be a problem to getting what he really wants.

    thisislele June 10, 2024 11:17 am
    There’s a difference between trauma and willing ignorance. Especially when you have EVERY SINGLE PERSON (aside from your abuser) tell you that your relationship with your ‘brother’ (abuser) is mad weird. ... Daiku ♥

    that is just not true. trauma is an extremely strong thing. maybe you think you would start questioning things but that’s just not how that works for everybody. mc could watch him kill somebody and his brain could immediately start convincing him that it was an accident or he deserved it out just block out the situation completely. it’s very realistic for mc to act the way he is for how messed up he is.

    smol.st June 10, 2024 12:54 pm
    Yes he’s totally frustrating for us as readers, but he only knows what he knows. Cut out all the information from other scenes for our benefit and we’d probably be on the fence about M. Plus Y would have to... Zuzu

    THANK YOU, u understood what i was on. we're literally just 3rd pov readers while mc is behind a 2 way mirror (/TДT)/ he IS a victim, and for that other guy i aint reading all that

    smol.st June 10, 2024 1:36 pm
    No im not kidding lmao. It IS unrealistic because even though he is isolated and manipulated, he has his own thoughts that cannot be fully controlled by his abuser (unless mc tells him what he’s thinking). It... Daiku ♥

    my guy, u sound too non sensical of the mc's situation and kinda missed the whole story here... sure mc is capable of thinking of himself (we saw that here that he wanted to get to know the director more despite being told no) but he really really really is a disturbed individual who witnessed loved ones leaving him, so any victim of that trauma (now im just guessing here) isnt one to open up to socially towards friends and colleagues. and im pretty sure the old friend is just a friend who isn't, or not anymore, close. thats something called commitment issues, i heard. very popular with traumatized ppl, im afraid.

    and i didnt add it in my reply but, mc has a sense of responsibility of white dude. because ofc he would, he practically raised him (in the 1st chapter) he couldnt just leave the only loved one left when again HIS WHOLE FAMILY DIED. he wants what is best for white guy, bc thats what guardians do im afraid, so add FAMILY TRAUMA and ABANDONMENT ISSUES onto that, i guess he cant just go up and about leaving him and be selfish and everything. i really dont know what else to point out, search up survivor's guilt or something?

    his trauma made him be a selfless, caring guardian who only cares about his remaining loved one and is unaware of the great danger he is in because hes literally JUST doing his JOB and ROLE. ITS NEVER HIS FAULT? he lost his sense of INDIVIDUALITY bc of that TRAUMA. and that white guy has been taking advantage of that.

    MC NEVER EVEN WENT TO THERAPY?? seriously, overall, u literally need to broaden ur idea of trauma bc if thats ur only idea of it, the world WOULD be so better if it's that easy to get over it.

    smol.st June 10, 2024 1:43 pm
    that is just not true. trauma is an extremely strong thing. maybe you think you would start questioning things but that’s just not how that works for everybody. mc could watch him kill somebody and his brain ... thisislele

    ur a saint too, u get it ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

    Daiku ♥ June 11, 2024 3:05 am
    my guy, u sound too non sensical of the mc's situation and kinda missed the whole story here... sure mc is capable of thinking of himself (we saw that here that he wanted to get to know the director more despit... smol.st

    I didn’t miss anything, my guy. I’m just pointing out that regardless of trauma the Mc is an adult with a brain, even if it’s really messed up.

    Again, no one is saying he should be selfish and confrontational about his mistreatment because obviously we’re not at that point yet. But I think it’s absurd he hasn’t even begun to feel a shred of doubt about his relationship with the other dude, even when we consider his trauma. I’m not sure why you’re acting like I’m asking for heaven to be seen lmao.

    Daiku ♥ June 11, 2024 3:07 am
    that is just not true. trauma is an extremely strong thing. maybe you think you would start questioning things but that’s just not how that works for everybody. mc could watch him kill somebody and his brain ... thisislele

    LMAOOO okay at this point y’all are overplaying this entire thing I’m not bothering w this BYE

    thisislele June 11, 2024 4:59 am
    LMAOOO okay at this point y’all are overplaying this entire thing I’m not bothering w this BYE Daiku ♥

    just say you dont understand and go lol

    Daiku ♥ June 11, 2024 5:19 am
    just say you dont understand and go lol thisislele

    I understand perfectly fine lmao. Y’all are the ones acting like the Mc is a child that is completely utterly helpless just because of his trauma.

    thisislele June 11, 2024 11:12 am
    I understand perfectly fine lmao. Y’all are the ones acting like the Mc is a child that is completely utterly helpless just because of his trauma. Daiku ♥

    you clearly dont even after i tried explaining it to you

    Daiku ♥ June 12, 2024 5:45 am
    you clearly dont even after i tried explaining it to you thisislele

    No, you’re just wrong lol

    thisislele June 12, 2024 10:54 am
    No, you’re just wrong lol Daiku ♥

    i’m not wrong at all lol. being an adult does not make you immune to the effects of trauma. you don’t get to say i’m wrong when something is a literal fact.

    smol.st June 12, 2024 12:26 pm
    i’m not wrong at all lol. being an adult does not make you immune to the effects of trauma. you don’t get to say i’m wrong when something is a literal fact. thisislele

    ion think this kid is worth replying to no mo, my guy. we could just leave their wrong opinion to themselves just like the other comments. at the end of the day, they'll grow up eventually

    Daiku ♥ June 13, 2024 3:07 am
    i’m not wrong at all lol. being an adult does not make you immune to the effects of trauma. you don’t get to say i’m wrong when something is a literal fact. thisislele

    And trauma doesn’t take away the fact that you’re an adult with critical thinking skills. He can pick up on social cues yet the author conveniently makes it seem like he can’t whenever he’s around white haired guy.

    Daiku ♥ June 13, 2024 3:08 am
    ion think this kid is worth replying to no mo, my guy. we could just leave their wrong opinion to themselves just like the other comments. at the end of the day, they'll grow up eventually smol.st

    I’m not a kid for one. And two if you’re so bothered don’t join the conversation lmao atp you’re just desperate to be included

    thisislele June 13, 2024 9:08 am
    And trauma doesn’t take away the fact that you’re an adult with critical thinking skills. He can pick up on social cues yet the author conveniently makes it seem like he can’t whenever he’s around white... Daiku ♥

    i hope that you can handle whatever trauma may come your way with critical thinking skills. but you clearly underestimate trauma and refuse to recognize that everybody is affected differently regardless of age. the author writes him this way bc that’s how some people in the real world actually act. i recommend doing some research before commenting on something you clearly know nothing about.