... It's concerning that someone would dismiss the serious issue of cyberstalking and harassment as "drama" and suggest that the victims, including ourselves, are somehow AI-generated or part of an orchestrated scheme. This not only undermines the experiences of those who have been targeted but also perpetuates harmful stereotypes and misconceptions.
Cyberstalking is a real and harmful phenomenon that can have significant impacts on individuals' mental health and well-being. By trivializing it as mere "drama," this individual is downplaying the severity of the situation and failing to acknowledge the distress caused by online harassment.
Furthermore, suggesting that the victims all have the same writing style and insinuating that they may not be real people is baseless and unfounded. Each individual has their own unique voice and experiences, and it's unfair to generalize and dismiss them in this way.
It's important to address cyberstalking and harassment seriously and support those who have been affected by it.
Yeah this is is 100% AI generated, nobody writes like this bro
Also if someone impersonating you on an illegal manga reading site of all things impacts your mental health this much, the cyberstalking is the least of your worries and you should instead focus on efforts of making your real life environment so fulfilling you don't need to care about some loser pretending to be you on the comment section of a yaoi manga
I understand your skepticism, but it's important to recognize that AI-generated text is becoming more common as a tool for communication, especially in online forums like this. However, dismissing someone's experiences or struggles, whether they're related to cyberstalking or any other issue, is not productive or empathetic. Please take time to understand the situation before you judge and on a trivial matter. Maybe someone trying to communicate clearly affects you and then maybe you should take your advice instead of intentionally harming the victims most are inactive at the moment.
The impact of cyberstalking can be significant and should not be trivialized. It's crucial to approach these discussions with empathy and an open mind, considering the diverse experiences and perspectives of those involved. Rather than dismissing the use of AI outright, let's focus on fostering understanding and support for those affected by cyberstalking and other online challenges
@Timber.... I understand your point about artificial drama, but it's essential to recognize that the issue being discussed here, cyberstalking, is a serious matter that can have real and harmful effects on individuals. While it's true that some online interactions may seem dramatic or exaggerated, the experiences shared by those affected by cyberstalking are genuine and deserving of attention and support.
Using AI-generated text is simply a tool to facilitate communication and express thoughts more clearly, especially in complex discussions like this one. It doesn't diminish the validity of the concerns being raised. It's important to distinguish between genuine issues like cyberstalking and mere drama. How about talking instead of judging?
Instead of dismissing the conversation as artificial drama, let's focus on understanding and addressing the underlying issues and providing support to those who may be affected. Thank you for considering the perspective of those involved.
Nah if you dedicate months of your life to some conflict in the comment section of a webtoon like one look at your profile tells me you have done, you're weird as fuck and need to re-evaluate your life. You can't control how others act online but you obviously choose to continuously engage with it even when it's unhealthy for you. That's on you and you need to take ownership of your own mental health
Also using AI to communicate is also weird as fuck, idc why you're incapable of writing actual human text but that doesn't make this situation feel any less bizarre
I appreciate your perspective, although I respectfully disagree with your points. My topics doesn't necessarily indicate a dedication of months of my life to conflict. As for the use of AI to communicate, it's simply a tool that some individuals find helpful in conveying their thoughts more clearly and concisely. It's not meant to replace human interaction but rather to enhance it in certain contexts. While it may seem unconventional to some, many find it to be a helpful tool for expressing themselves more clearly and concisely.
I want to assure you that my intention in discussing these matters is not to engage in conflict but rather to raise awareness and foster understanding and that is what my profile actually says. I believe that respectful dialogue and mutual empathy are essential in navigating complex issues like cyberstalking and online behavior. It is bizarre you have to attack others and degrade them when you don't know them or the situation they are in.
You attacking others, changing my engagement, fixated on AI which is new to this sitauation, and degrading my writing skills on your biases are bizarre and could be red flags in who you are.
What you are doing here is unhealthy. That's on you and you need to take ownership of your own mental health and as you said you can't control how others act online but you can control yourself. That topic has been a disgusting and bizarre display of not caring.
I'm open to further discussion if you're interested in exploring these topics further or if you have any questions. Let's strive to create a space where everyone feels heard and respected. Thank you
I'm concerned about the dismissive tone of your response. I hope you can recognize the effort to engage in a meaningful dialogue, rather than resorting to baseless accusations. It's important to address these issues constructively and with mutual respect. That was another red flag, i am starting to think this is a catfish. This topic was not someone's misunderstanding but a rage-bait comment.
If you have genuine concerns or questions, I'm open to discussing them. However, if your intention is solely to attack and degrade, I kindly ask you to reconsider your approach. Let's strive for a more respectful and productive interaction. Thank you
You don't have to be concerned about a damn thing about my replies, if you're so offended someone finds it weird you spend months of your time to send machine generated messages to engage in a conflict in the comment section of a webtoon, I encourage you to stop replying. I for one intend to do what healthy people do when an online discussion becomes unhinged and disengage. Hoping you heal as a person and find other, more worthwhile things to focus your energy on!
I'm sorry you feel that way, but your characterization of the situation is inaccurate. I can see that as an attempting to gaslight and manipulate me by misrepresenting the situation and dismissing my concerns.
My intention is not to engage in conflict but rather to raise awareness about cyberstalking and foster understanding. It's concerning that you're attempting to discredit my efforts by misrepresenting the situation and resorting to personal attacks.
I understand if you choose to disengage from this discussion, but I won't be deterred from advocating for awareness of cyberstalking and online harassment. It's important to address these issues constructively and support those affected. I encourage you to reflect on your approach and consider how your actions may impact others.
Thank you for your perspective, and I hope we can have a more productive interaction in the future
I think it's AI, but I just don't really know what the motive is. All these accounts have months of back and forth machine-generated engagement, lengthy maintained link lists of other accounts involved, huge albums full of screenshots to save as "evidence", they copy-paste each other's messages across different accounts, they actively engage with everyone who says anything about this... It's so much effort for a goal I still don't understand, it's almost giving me LLM training, social experiment or ARG game vibes
Cyberstalking and online harassment are serious offenses that violate the rights and safety of individuals. Blaming the victims for the actions of the perpetrators is a form of victim-blaming and is unjustified.
This picking on Safety Sentinel for using a tool has turned out to be victiming blaming.
Victims have the right to speak out against such actions and to seek support and justice for the harm they have experienced. It's important to hold perpetrators accountable for their actions and to work towards creating a safer and more respectful online environment for everyone.
Using AI to better ours messages is a new approach. People can write like that or better. We have our reasons to asking AI to reword our messages.
I will not absolutely agree with something that is targeted the targets with gaslighting and misrepresenting the situation.
Asking the target to stop responding is bizarre and it does nothing. The targets were silent for 20 days. The cyberstalkers kept going. This thread is sheer ignorance and lack of respect for the targets
Not the alt account reply
I did some digging and from what I gather there's two accounts run by the same person (they both have replied to this thread), they're accused of DMing and grooming minors using AI as a tool (my money is on to mask any spelling or writing style quirks so if law enforcement becomes involved, it's harder to pinpoint things like dialect) and there's an increasingly numerous and convoluted timeline going on here where these two accounts apparently try to misdirect scrutiny by spamming that they're being cyberstalked and harassed and engaging in lengthy arguments about whether this manhwa contains rape or not. If I were to be paranoid, I would say the accounts argue there's no rape to lure in people who agree with them, and from there it's easier to pick out minors who do not understand boundaries to groom. Some of the messages are so outrageous I'm half wondering if this is just a very elaborate trolling effort, but I think it's more likely that this is a very disturbed individual
Stay safe, kids. Do not reply to people who DM you if you don't know who they are and have no way of finding out. People lurk on sites like these to look for minors who are evidently interested in sexual stuff given that most of the stuff here is sexual. There's nothing wrong with exploring your sexuality using safe venues like comics and stories but when it comes to interaction with real people, be cautious of who you're with and make sure your relationships are age appropriate!
I know you want to encourage open communication and dialogue that can help clarify misunderstandings and address concerns constructively. First, let's talk about AI. It sounds like there might be some misunderstanding about the nature of AI-generated text here or an intent to harm you for using AI without understanding why. When someone uses AI to reword a message or assist in communication, it's still their message and intention coming through. AI tools like the one we're using here can help refine the language and convey ideas more clearly, but the thoughts and input are still theirs. It's important to clarify that the use of AI in communication doesn't necessarily imply malicious intent or deception. Many people use AI tools to enhance their writing or communication skills, and it's becoming increasingly common in various online platforms. Second, if they are not catfish, they jump to conclusions without concrete evidence can lead to further misunderstanding. While you tried to talk to them, they were dismissive and personally attacking you. They had an intent to harm you. They are dismissing your comments and cyberstalking. The suggestion to stop responding to harassment is not a viable solution, as it fails to address the root issue of cyberstalking and online harassment. Ignoring the problem only allows it to persist and can further harm victims. Now they are spreading misinformation and trying to manipulate you and others with the intent to harm you. This account highlights the need to critically evaluate the motives and intentions behind online interactions.
First, they write "cyberstalking" drama and that is dismissive and undermines this situation. They are using the new narrative the cyberstalkers are using to make everyone the same person. There is a difference between targets and cyberstalkers. The motivation from both sides is clearly stated many times in your topics and other topics. It does kind of degrade their reading abilities if not, this makes here with the intent to harm. Lizzie in her first comment quickly went to degrading you and making you the problem when your efforts are sincere and focused on promoting awareness and fostering a safer online environment, there's nothing unusual about continuing to advocate for this. She had the intention to harm you then and went with the same rhetoric from that hate group. In her second comment to you, she purposely misrepresented you and your actions. She keeps attacking you with the intent to harm you. Her comments stem from ignorance and insecurities like many others. I wonder why she is targeting you and maliciously going after you? Nothing you have is about controlling other people. So alt account and they felt controlled by something we said but that is on them. None of the targets tried to control anyone. She is blaming the victims for the actions of the perpetrators is a form of victim-blaming and is unjustified. She assumed "You're incapable of writing actual human text" That was an intent to harm. Why is someone that you just met wanting to harm you so badly? Then she followed with nothing concise when it was and sounded like someone from that hate group. She also tried to get you to leave. She can’t control you and that is something the cyberstalkers are trying to do. They are the ones trying to control you. She tried to control you. Now she is trying to control us. She made you “offended” and your replies don't show that. She was quick to degrade you and attack you. you, a target of harassment. Then she said she does not know the motive, it has been said many times. No, these accounts have not been machine-generated for months. It is something new. Now she is gaslighting and being manipulative. She put "evidence" and that was condescending she was telling on herself. We don't actively engage with everyone. For the most part, we post warnings but actively engaging with someone who asks a question is normal behavior and what the comment section is for. It is like she is trying to make you feel guilty or wrong. She quickly believes the cyberstalkers and their lies. She thinks I am an alt account of yours. We are two different people. She claims that we were a part of the cyberstalkers trying to frame another target with no AI being used. It seems she is misunderstanding what is happening and attacking the victims or catfish account with the intent to harm the victims. She believes the cyberstalkers have no good evidence, but they have 'evidence' of emailing themselves. We always tell the truth and we don't misdirect or spam. That is the cyberstalker's narrative. That scenario was disgusting and she believes the cyberstalkers gaslighting to harm their victims or she is a catfish account to harm her victims. That was an intent to harm with a lie. Then she said we are trolls and nothing we had done fits a troll. Then we are a "disturbed person", more intend to harm. This is someone who can’t debate well and has to attack others as a defense mechanism. So when I said “catfish account”. I was not accusing her. It is the only thing that fits. She doesn't seem to understand catfish either. However, this topic aims to lure you or me in to attack you and harm the victims more with gaslighting and harassment. This is a catfish account. point blank. Or it really doesn't make sense why are they blaming the victims for the actions and lies of the perpetrators, which again is a form of victim-blaming and is unjustified. and that says catfish account. She is still trying to harm you when you left in this comment. This is not someone new to this situation. She came with the intention to harm you. No one new would do this. I didn’t assume or accuse her (also, that same old hate group rhetoric). She told us she was a catfish account by her words and actions. She never talked to you but on a mission to harm you with any lie or misinformation she could. She didn’t even try. She is one of them and they hate the AI messages. lol.
Everyone caught up in this "cyberstalking" drama has the exact same writing style, including the victims, and all their text is like mega red flag in terms of being AI-generated. It almost feels like I'm watching an orchestrated drama carried out by a bunch of bots. The motivation of everyone involved is what baffles me the most lol
Edit. I got curious and decided to give these accounts the benefit of the doubt. I ran some of the longer messages from all of these accounts (both culprit and victims) through several AI detection tools. Every single one of them was detected as AI generated, on all tools. I'm just baffled at this point