I literally cried, he is an asshole

Galaxy May 22, 2024 12:10 am

I feel so fucking bad for him. The chapters after the 3rd one kept getting harder a d harder to read. He didn't derseve any of that, yet it kept getting worse and worse by no fault of his own, and life and everyone around him made it their life's mission to shit on this poor soul. (ノಥ益ಥ)ノ

Like he doesn't deserve this. Han is a fucking asshole that's taking advantage of someone with lower position at work, and someone with lower experince than him.

And he is a fucking liar and a hyporicte.

Getting mad when he isn't trusted but does NOTHING to gain that trust, and is ACTIVLY doing things to get the other person to mistrust him. If someone asked you to fuck you 13 times to keep a job at the company, would you trust them? Would you be thankful??


And he is fucking awful dom/sadits whatever the fuck you want to call him, since he clearly has no moral or rules. He doesn't explain the rules, he doesn't reassure him, he doesn't give him a safe word as a way out. And when he finally does HE DOESN'T RESPECT IT. He is constantly pushing and pushing. Like, the guy saw him crying, wailing and trashing to run away from him, and it didn't occur to him that there could be an underlying reason for that reaction? Like the sheer panic in his eyes. And what does he do? He tells him to shut up and to take it.



I hope who ever thinks he is a green flag, never has to experince having such a "green" flag for a lover. Like, are we reading the same story??? ლ(ಠ益ಠ)ლ

Responses
    gah May 22, 2024 11:19 am

    "he doesn't reassure him" ?
    i think ml is plenty gentle already outside of when hes doing bdsm play. he comforts mc lots and at least does the basic stuff of ointment application and tries to take care of mc outside of their play/sex. so i dont see how youre saying that he doesnt give a shit abt mc.

    and u cant just expect people to know everything. mc never explained anything so its kinda unreasonable to say that ml should be able to assume something happened to him before that causes him to cry every time. maybe he could have some doubts, but if mc kept quiet about it the entire time u cant really blame ml for not knowing.

    but i do agree that its kind of iffy that ml gave a safe word being a kiss, but then ignores mc when he did it right before they had sex. but also, considering the deal theyre having, the ml is having the upper hand. he gave mc a position in his team and opportunities to work, so mc is expected to return the favour through sex. so the fact that ml lets him off quite often is already kinda generous to mc to a certain extent?

    im not saying i agree with this behaviour, but really for a bl like this with a certain deal that mc has to pay ml back for, the ml is already doing a lot for the mc to try and comfort and ease him into being more okay with the bdsm/sex. if u just took a look at other legit red flags, they really wouldnt give a shit

    Call Me by Your Name May 22, 2024 1:49 pm

    ML just a gaslights asshole. I promise you he won't change until the end. Because when MC just need a simple answer or a reason, he'll blame MC for having such question or thought then play dramatic shit show of how that will affecting his life. Girl, save your sanity.

    Call Me by Your Name May 22, 2024 1:51 pm
    "he doesn't reassure him" ?i think ml is plenty gentle already outside of when hes doing bdsm play. he comforts mc lots and at least does the basic stuff of ointment application and tries to take care of mc out... gah

    Mean no harm, but your reasoning is like making excuse of why it is okay for a higher up allowed to harass anyone for some circumstances.

    gah May 22, 2024 2:18 pm
    Mean no harm, but your reasoning is like making excuse of why it is okay for a higher up allowed to harass anyone for some circumstances. Call Me by Your Name

    ahh thats def not what i meant but i get what u mean TT but like the diff is the deal they made - he alrd knew what was gonna happen if he accepted. meanwhile in a workplace, ure not allowed/supposed to harass them in the first place

    i think the deal btwn the mc n ml was clear enough to show that he wont be nice n stuff n he also explicitly stated that the kind of sex he wants is diff from most (w pain or smth, iirc)
    so if he wanted out of the sex = out of the deal

    in a workplace if he didnt want to do his work = out of his contract

    don't rly explain this well but hope u get what i mean

    Call Me by Your Name May 22, 2024 2:32 pm
    ahh thats def not what i meant but i get what u mean TT but like the diff is the deal they made - he alrd knew what was gonna happen if he accepted. meanwhile in a workplace, ure not allowed/supposed to harass... gah

    Yea I get it. More or less, it was MC who brought this situation into himself. I know that life is not easy cotton candy, but could he find the better workplace and respect himself??
    Then again, he has depression, trauma, and all.

    lollabunni May 22, 2024 2:41 pm

    you read a BDSM manhwa bruh tf you mean he deserve that . .

    Galaxy May 22, 2024 9:14 pm
    "he doesn't reassure him" ?i think ml is plenty gentle already outside of when hes doing bdsm play. he comforts mc lots and at least does the basic stuff of ointment application and tries to take care of mc out... gah

    But the reason for all the crying so much in almost every scene IS BECAUSE of the ML. Like ok he conforts him, while also being the reason for those tears AND while telling him he is such a bother because of all that crying. Like you can't say in the same breath that he reassures him, while in the second he is actually berating him for being such an inconvenince.

    And you say MC doesn't say stuff, would you??? The person you respected, out of nowhere asked to fuck you 13 times to keep your job, while half a day prior they were berating you and calling you naive. Why in in any freaking multiverse would you feel comfortable enough to tell them anything?? While they also keep saying how you are a chore, naive, inconvenince etc. Would you feel comfortable telling them something private?

    And that argument can be said to ML to. People say he is just obsessed with MC. Well he sure fucking shows it in a waird ass way. Like don't you all abuse your loved ones (sarcasam). He doesn't explain ANYTHING to MC. Reason for 13 saturdays, how he should act, the way to stop the play. MC didn't even know what a sexual play was. How more fucking inexperinced can you get?? And ML even remarks on that, but does he do anything to adress it? No.

    More often than not, he is taking out his anger onto him.

    And your last point. The "other red flags" are just as bad as him, but in their own way. Just because he isn't holding a gun to his head or hanging a million dollar debt over his head doesn't make him a saint. Re read the manhwa and try to see the moments where he comforts him. I can guaranteed 8 out of 10 times will be caused by him. After he pushed MC too far even when MC told him to. Sorry mean nothing and comfroting is empty gesture when you keep repeating the offence that cuases the need to say sorry or to comfort the MC.

    Galaxy May 22, 2024 9:16 pm
    you read a BDSM manhwa bruh tf you mean he deserve that . . lollabunni

    I said he doesn't deserve non of the things that happened to him? I didn't say he deserves any thing that has happened to him thus far.

    gah May 23, 2024 5:16 am
    But the reason for all the crying so much in almost every scene IS BECAUSE of the ML. Like ok he conforts him, while also being the reason for those tears AND while telling him he is such a bother because of a... Galaxy

    ok yeah i see ur point now, thanks for taking the time to reply again. n ya i agree mostly that he isnt a green flag cuz hes the one inflicting pain and causing mc to cry in the first place but abt mc not saying anyt;; yeah its understandable why he didnt say it, but u still csnt blame the ml for that since mc didnt say anyt. im not saying mc SHOULD, aft all he isnt in a position to trust ml, but since he didnt say anyt then idt ml can be blamed much for not knowing