Actually is the other way around (haha), maybe you should go back and re-read the whole thread or learn about logical argumentation and emotional intelligence. we just learned about emotional intelligence in my communications class and how we should always present our views in a logical, respectful and calm way. This thread caught my attention because I think it’s very impressive how even though kyouran was trolled for no reason, he/she responded to the attackers in a very composed, respectful and intelligent way. Kudos to him/her for that. I really wish I had his/her ability to debate but I can’t put words together like that or stay cool like that.
From where I’m standing kyouran decided to sit this one out after reading other people’s comments on how bad the children in the manga are having it and he/she didn’t feel like dealing with it. then comes anonymous and decides to act like a troll, sneakily checking kyouran’s reading list first to find something he/she could use to attack kyouran and came in with the stupid excuse“ how dare you not read this manga when you are reading killing stalking!” dude, first off if anyone would’ve done that shit to me, I would’ve been like “fuck off, asshole. It’s none of your damned business what I choose or not to read, the fuck!”, but instead of blowing everyone off, kyouran was cool as a breeze as she smartly responded to all making them look like the idiots they probably are, but it’s obvious that anonymous was being malicious looking for a fight from the beginning, because he/she just kept pushing, making even more baseless assumptions and digging his/her own grave, because kyouran never once said anything bad about the manga, didn’t say it was horrible or that was shit or that it was garbage, none of that. all kyouran said was “not gonna read because kids suffering is depressing stuff”, that’s it , and because of that anon and the others decided to bully her, not knowing she would crush them all with just her pinky (haha) neat!
If you pay attention, you can easily pinpoint the moment when kyouran crushed anon and the others, and anon realized it too and felt it haaaard, that’s why you can notice anon’s aggressiveness escalating with each of his/her posts and was foaming in the mouth in the last one, shouting and rehashing kyouran’s words as if that would make his/her “argument” more valid, when it just highlighted his/her anger and weakness. My professor even quoted to us “a fool loses his temper, but the wise man holds it back” and the way anon acted is the perfect example of the angry fool, and kyouran of how a wise man/woman keeps their cool in an argument. I just wanna say dude, being a troll is not socially acceptable, and I’m surprised only one other person called out anon on his trollish behavior [good job annabis] while a bunch of other people, including yourself chose to join in anon’s trollish bandwagon. Mangago is one of the friendliest sites I lurk and trust me, you don’t want it to go the way of the pits like other manga sites hijacked by trolls. users shouldn’t tolerate or support trolls or bullies because that kills the joy of interacting in good fun with other yaoi readers.
Hi annabis, trust me it has nothing to do with tongue barriers. English is my first and only language (haha) and I see it the same way you do, kyouran never said anything bad about the manga, all she said is that based on the comments of other readers that mentioned that the kids in the manga were suffering a lot, kyouran decided to not read it because she didn't wanna feel depressed about the kids suffering. And I think too that anon had malicious intentions from the beginning and just kept trolling kyouran and kept getting angrier and agrier with each post. That comment about "I'm not looking for a fight" is bullshit because it's clear as day that's all he/she was doing from the very beginning, but kyouran turned the tables on him/her (haha) and that drove anon into a spitting rage. I just wanted to say that you're not the only one and that you're a brave and good person. the world needs more people like you!
The same goes for you, the world would be better with people like you too. I wish I could express the way I want in english like you and kyouran do, and could undestand better the irony on conversations. Thats why I always doubt if anyone is being rude or not and because I hard to me to understand why a person would have interest on act like a troll. Its a mistery to me. Thank you!! (⌒▽⌒)
I don't think anon is mad because of her/his not liking this manga,
If you've read anon's long explanation I think he or she is mad because Kyouran kind off pointed out that anon is stupid in a way which is "disrespectful". He or she even said something about just saying Kyouran liking Killing Stalking as a joke, and wouldn't have said anything else if Kyouran just didn't continued on pointing his or her stupidity in a way and took anon's words seriously. Anon kinda have a point in this one, by the way. Anon kinda denies the word "upset", and you and Kyouran kept using it is making me doubt in something. Did you read the full conversation before making your judgement?You said you just got this lecture in class, so obviously you have to look at this in both of their perspective. Not just going on protecting someone just because they back out, and avoided the trouble. Sometimes those type of people are the ones who started the fight...
I'm just saying this because it's kinda unfair for anon in a way you know, no one wants to be pointed out stupid just because they made a joke to be funny yet corny.
By the way, let me add something I forgot to type in.
You said you just had a lecture about logical argument and emotional intelligence, right? Revolving towards LOGICAL, RESPECTFUL and calm way. I admit anon wasn't "calm" but if you just HAD READ and UNDERSTAND anon's long explanation you can obviously see this towards anon's comment that he/she possesses those two elements compared to Kyouran. For goodness sake anon copied and paste all of Kyouran's words against her/him, and answered it. Anon didn't even swear and instead called Kyouran dear love, on that long comment she or he made. Those were just replies that Kyouran said against anon, I don't see anon being disrespectful. He/She was pointed out stupid first and defended himself/herself in a VERY LOGICAL way, I don't consider Kyouran backing out in this fight actually, she/he was the last one who commented between the two of them, more like anon just defended himself/herself and left.
I think you're an anon just reading Kyouran's words not paying attention to the other person's point of view, or either it could be you're Kyouran going anonymous or you're one of his/her friends. By the way “ how dare you not read this manga when you are reading killing stalking!”??? Where did you come up with that? I thought you studied logical argument? Anon clearly said "I see you have Killing Stalking in your reading list,
bruh, that is way fucked up compared to this one! XD"
You do know in logical argument you are not allowed to sum up some false made up ideas right? Anon is clearly joking, he or she even put an emoji like, what?! Did you actually READ the ENTIRE EXPLANATION anon made? I don't believe he or she was looking for a fight, anon even said it there. Dude, your defense LITERALLY BIAS!
And how can you just assume anon sneakily went through Kyouran's file to gather up something to trigger a fight, for goodness sake Kyouran's not the only one anon said that to. Look down buddy, V-chan was commented first before Kyouran. It's clear enough already in there that this is the first time anon met Kyouran, and if you ACTUALLY UNDERSTOOD the conversation they're not fighting because of the manga's CONTENT anymore. You're just simply BIAS buddy, you're not even being TRUTHFULLY LOGICAL.
I know you've got a lot of replies but I have to agree with you. People telling you which is way worse are off mark. What's way worse to you is different from which is way worse to them and it's unfair and unrealistic to put two different people's level of understanding and empathy in direct fight that way. I read the comments as well and won't be reading the manga. My take on it is that as an adult who has a good childhood andam quite happy with my life right now, it will just depress me to think of small children having to whore themselves/starving etc etc.
Killing stalking? Yeah that's murder but it doesn't hurt me the same way thinking of children suffering does. Spoiler alert* while killing stalking do divert back to the past, it is not explicit enough that it doesn't hurt me and at least I know where Bum and Sangwoo is now. They're alive. Away from their families. The little boy in this manga this people are talking about? I don't have the same certainty and don't want to read it unless I'm certain he came out ok.
I think the people who come after you to compare your perception of agony and what would hurt you most against theirs is ridiculous. Just hearing that a boy will get raped and some people speculating that only the older bro will end up happy hurts too much that I won't and CAN'T read this just for my mental health. You should do what makes you happy. The amount of people telling others not to be swayed or influenced by comments is ridiculous. When people are telling you that they might get hurt/depressed over it and you're telling them it might not be that bad ACCORDING TO YOUR STANDARDS is ridiculous. Are these people ready to be responsible over someone else's mental health? Are these people so sure EVERYONE gets hurt or feel the same way about EVERYTHING? That they can bet their life on you not walking away from this manga depressed? Trying to influence people who are already slightly hurt just from comments to read the exact story that might tip them off the edge is stupid. Telling people oh it's not as bad as Killing Stalking when you don't know what THEY themselves feel is worse but go just BY YOUR OWN STANDARD is ridiculous.
I just want you to know I support you and there's nothing wrong with not wanting to hurt yourself. Nothing wrong if you feel this is worse than Killing Stalking. There is something wrong with others telling you what you should feel is worse. They're the problem, not you.
This manga's comparison to Killing Stalking is NOT
the main reason of the fight, it's the one that started it but
It isn't what the comments above is arguing about.
Thank you my fellow Fujoshis/Fudanshis for your candid and emphatic reviews which have saved me from reading this and subsequently walking with a dark cloud over my head for several days. I'm out! ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ