The wind spirit girl really pissed me off. Also the way all the spirits are chill with pai...

Tendies May 7, 2024 4:49 pm

The wind spirit girl really pissed me off. Also the way all the spirits are chill with pairing up with one another makes me sad for our MC. Clearly she has the human mindset of having one partner for her life, but all the other spirits don't seem to mind as long as they get along well enough.

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    Lipilu May 7, 2024 6:13 pm

    Idk man at least for Waterust papa, Snowlea is his only (▰˘◡˘▰) let's be honest, he too lazy to go off cheating lol

    Vicki May 7, 2024 10:15 pm

    Agreed the wind spirit is childish however you forget that they're pretty much immortal and part of nature, if you had all eternity you wouldn't mind being with different people cus to them a "life time" for us is just moments to them.

    And she's "only" 100 years old... mental she's probably like... 18

    Con May 7, 2024 11:44 pm

    Kugalg better step tf up

    Lipilu May 7, 2024 11:48 pm
    Agreed the wind spirit is childish however you forget that they're pretty much immortal and part of nature, if you had all eternity you wouldn't mind being with different people cus to them a "life time" for us... Vicki

    Nah sis, I'd rather not claim her. We're old enough not to try and kill literal babies. Also old enough to be tried as an adult. Japan only just raised age of consent to 16 but some still go by 13(/TДT)/ she's probably more around that age but still y'know

    Tendies May 8, 2024 3:09 am
    Nah sis, I'd rather not claim her. We're old enough not to try and kill literal babies. Also old enough to be tried as an adult. Japan only just raised age of consent to 16 but some still go by 13(/TДT)/ she... Lipilu

    Honesty yeah bc when they hit 100 they're considered adults so even if she is around 18 she totally should know better than to hurt those babies. Even if it was to intimidate them she went waayyy to far with it.

    Tendies May 8, 2024 3:10 am
    Idk man at least for Waterust papa, Snowlea is his only (▰˘◡˘▰) let's be honest, he too lazy to go off cheating lol Lipilu

    LMAO you right he is too lazy to go out and look for someone else.

    Tendies May 8, 2024 3:15 am
    Kugalg better step tf up Con

    FR he better not be like his dad and end up with more than one baby mama. Like the audacity of Kugalg's dad to say he was gonna have another kid with the wind spirit in front of the spirits he likes and the one he had a kid with.

    Vicki May 8, 2024 2:56 pm
    Honesty yeah bc when they hit 100 they're considered adults so even if she is around 18 she totally should know better than to hurt those babies. Even if it was to intimidate them she went waayyy to far with it... Tendies

    I agree that her harming the kids was very bad BUT....

    You guys keep putting a lot of human emotion into these spirits.
    The FL said it herself. The wind spirit is the first one she's met with so much human emotion in them.

    The mother sent her, a 1 year old off to be an envoy. By human logic this is child endangerment.
    The dad was going to just murder everyone cus they harmed the daughter.
    Spirits are based off instinct and will kill or love based off instinct.
    The wind spirit even admits to only wanting to tease the kids until her desires took over her rational brain.

    Espresseaux June 21, 2024 6:36 pm
    I agree that her harming the kids was very bad BUT....You guys keep putting a lot of human emotion into these spirits.The FL said it herself. The wind spirit is the first one she's met with so much human emotio... Vicki

    Yes, they even think her use of the 'mother' and 'father' roles is peculiar; these 'spiritual interactions' might even be passionate, but aren't the same as human mating.

    I think I would want to be a spirit. ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶ All these human neuroticisms are not for me!

    Vicki June 21, 2024 9:54 pm
    Yes, they even think her use of the 'mother' and 'father' roles is peculiar; these 'spiritual interactions' might even be passionate, but aren't the same as human mating.I think I would want to be a spirit. �... Espresseaux

    ... made me think but like...
    Are psychopaths like spirits then?
    Like they have instincts and that's about it (even if they're bad instincts) and try to come off normal by regular human standards.

    Espresseaux June 24, 2024 4:56 pm
    ... made me think but like...Are psychopaths like spirits then?Like they have instincts and that's about it (even if they're bad instincts) and try to come off normal by regular human standards. Vicki

    No, I think this is more along the lines of blue and orange morality. The mother is shown to have some form of emotion for her 'husband', it's just different from human standards. It's like elves in fairy tales, the structure is totally different. Psychopaths and sociopaths are firmly in the realm of the human, I think.

    Vicki June 24, 2024 5:00 pm
    No, I think this is more along the lines of blue and orange morality. The mother is shown to have some form of emotion for her 'husband', it's just different from human standards. It's like elves in fairy tales... Espresseaux

    ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ
    I'm really enjoying our chat!
    I dont know much about blue and orange but your info sounds very good~

    Espresseaux June 24, 2024 5:20 pm
    ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ I'm really enjoying our chat!I dont know much about blue and orange but your info sounds very good~ Vicki

    Look up "blue-and-orange morality" on TVTropes. Human beings have a few different moral systems and theories, but they often have many similar points because humans as a species evolved in similar contexts. When another species, maybe aliens or fantasy creatures, have a totally different set of life experiences, they often have a moral system that is utterly strange from us and uses axes other than 'good and evil' or ' just and unjust' .

    Espresseaux June 24, 2024 5:22 pm
    ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ I'm really enjoying our chat!I dont know much about blue and orange but your info sounds very good~ Vicki

    If you can't find it, here's a quote:
    "a moral framework that is so utterly alien and foreign to human experience that we can't peg them as "good" or "evil". They aren't a Chaotic Neutral Unfettered, though they may seem to act terrifyingly randomly; nor are they necessarily a Lawful Neutral Fettered, because their understanding of "law" as a concept may not even be equivalent to ours. There might be a logic behind their actions, it's just that they operate with entirely different sets of values and premises from which to draw their conclusions. It's also worth noting that such cultures are just as likely to be something we'd find appalling as they are to be something we'd find benign and/or weird. They may also find us appalling, benign, or weird even if we don't see them that way, and although they are often likely to commit acts we would see as horrific, some are unusually benign. Either way they tend to act as if nothing were the matter. Because in their world/mind, that's just what they do. This trope is one of the trickier to pull off well, because Most Writers Are Human, and it's often hard to portray alien and truly foreign.
    That is not to say these characters are amoral or devoid of any sense of right and wrong, mind you, but that their ideas of right and wrong can't really be understood using the aforementioned concepts. Conversely, they may have these concepts, but apply them in vastly different ways— such as regarding motionlessness as the epitome of evil, or viewing exploration as an element of chaos. In short, Blue and Orange Morality isn't just about what a character(s) view as right or wrong, it's also about how and why they judge them as such. "

    Vicki June 25, 2024 1:52 am
    Look up "blue-and-orange morality" on TVTropes. Human beings have a few different moral systems and theories, but they often have many similar points because humans as a species evolved in similar contexts. Whe... Espresseaux

    Thanks!
    I will look that up later when I'm having my downtime before bed!