Maybe this is just me…

QUEEN FAY April 30, 2024 10:08 am

Maybe this is just me…but I feel kinda grossed out that he did the deed with a kid he raised for (I think 5/6 years). Even if it was an angel or a leopard it’s still the wrong message. I mean he basically became the father figure and raised him, and later on we find out that the “kid” was in love with him

Responses
    Apathetic_fluffball April 30, 2024 1:14 pm

    I get you
    Idk why this is a fairly common trope, but it also weirds me out

    Fox spirit April 30, 2024 2:25 pm

    I feel the same!

    QUEEN FAY April 30, 2024 8:12 pm
    I get youIdk why this is a fairly common trope, but it also weirds me out Apathetic_fluffball

    To be honest, looking over the comments right now, and it kinda of scares me on how common people support this type of trope. I mean wake up! Even if it’s fictional, it’s still wrong and utterly disgusting. I think this story is literally representing the adult, maybe grooming, the cub/child or even supporting the feelings of the child that grew up think he was falling in love with the caretaker. It’s just wrong to encourage this.

    Apathetic_fluffball April 30, 2024 9:25 pm
    To be honest, looking over the comments right now, and it kinda of scares me on how common people support this type of trope. I mean wake up! Even if it’s fictional, it’s still wrong and utterly disgusting.... QUEEN FAY

    Agreed
    I think it's such a big part of manga culture that somehow readers have normalized this kind of thing, like bc it isn't as blatant as shotacon, they think it's ok
    Sadly, we're clearly in the minority here, and this kind of work will not stop existing :/

    Sylvan May 1, 2024 1:05 am
    To be honest, looking over the comments right now, and it kinda of scares me on how common people support this type of trope. I mean wake up! Even if it’s fictional, it’s still wrong and utterly disgusting.... QUEEN FAY

    relax, people know to separate fiction and reality, we just enjoy it and that's it.

    Apathetic_fluffball May 2, 2024 5:06 pm
    relax, people know to separate fiction and reality, we just enjoy it and that's it. Sylvan

    I think you can't speak for everyone
    Certainly most people think of it as a harmless, separate thing from reality, but things like shotacon are worrisome for a reason

    Sylvan May 3, 2024 6:47 am
    I think you can't speak for everyoneCertainly most people think of it as a harmless, separate thing from reality, but things like shotacon are worrisome for a reason Apathetic_fluffball

    then don't read it. You know where these types of stories go, so why consume it and complain here? bruh. Stop applying real world morals to yaoi and a Fantasy one at that. It not realistic to begin with. Unless the author portrays it as something that happened in irl (there are those authors) then it's pretty useless reading and complaining when it goes against your morals

    Fox spirit May 3, 2024 7:31 am
    then don't read it. You know where these types of stories go, so why consume it and complain here? bruh. Stop applying real world morals to yaoi and a Fantasy one at that. It not realistic to begin with. Unless... Sylvan

    I don’t know why you assume that Fantasy shouldn’t follow minimal moral standards. The things we consume also inform our values. Everything is related…besides, you might be able to separate from reality but a lot of people don’t. A lot of people could normalize things that are bizarre. And we have the right to complain and to criticize the yaoi culture as much as we want!

    Apathetic_fluffball May 3, 2024 1:34 pm
    then don't read it. You know where these types of stories go, so why consume it and complain here? bruh. Stop applying real world morals to yaoi and a Fantasy one at that. It not realistic to begin with. Unless... Sylvan

    I don't think it works like that
    You can like anything, admit that it's good, but still point flaws on it and criticize it
    We're not toddlers who fling a toy across the room bc we realize there's a thing on it we dislike
    I know kinks exist, I know fictional works will be created to cater these kinks, which will appeal to some and repel others
    Do you think nobody should speak about something they don't like?
    Well, if so, then you don't need to read my comment, you can ignore it and move on with your day
    But that would be shitty, wouldn't it?
    You're free to express your dislike for my opinion as much as I am to express mine for shotacon and ped0 stuff

    Sylvan May 3, 2024 2:02 pm
    I don’t know why you assume that Fantasy shouldn’t follow minimal moral standards. The things we consume also inform our values. Everything is related…besides, you might be able to separate from reality b... Fox spirit

    Yeah, you're reading this too in an IILLEGAL website for free. Guess you have the same values, too?? You shouldn't be criticizing something you're NOT even buying. The authors wouldn't know anyway. lol. Well what you want I guess. ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍

    Apathetic_fluffball May 3, 2024 4:11 pm
    Yeah, you're reading this too in an IILLEGAL website for free. Guess you have the same values, too?? You shouldn't be criticizing something you're NOT even buying. The authors wouldn't know anyway. lol. Well wh... Sylvan

    Are you implying that bc I'm reading in an illegal website for free, I can't say that I don't like shotacon because they're equally wrong?
    And it's not always about the author knowing, we are an internet community, lots of times we are the ones pushing back or asking for stuff from them
    And how would you even know I buy stuff or not? How is this even related to the argument, you're just repeating the same old arguments people use when anyone tries to criticize any work here
    You all deny the issues, don't acknowledge that there's a significant part of the fandom that isn't blind to problematic themes and just yell at us to leave the website or stop reading
    Zero nuance and 100% rudeness

    Fox spirit May 4, 2024 4:10 am
    Yeah, you're reading this too in an IILLEGAL website for free. Guess you have the same values, too?? You shouldn't be criticizing something you're NOT even buying. The authors wouldn't know anyway. lol. Well wh... Sylvan

    So yeah, it’s in accordance to my values. I am against this model of capitalism where people who don’t have money, cannot access products and services. The authors should be supported with laws that give them $$$ from our taxes to produce books, mangas, and any other type of artistic expression. Besides, you are poor too and you are also reading it here, so fuck off!! Looool

    candi May 12, 2024 9:32 am
    then don't read it. You know where these types of stories go, so why consume it and complain here? bruh. Stop applying real world morals to yaoi and a Fantasy one at that. It not realistic to begin with. Unless... Sylvan

    there's nothing wrong with admitting you enjoy controversial and problematic tropes, but it's always healthy to acknowledge what makes it problematic.

    SweetSummerChild May 13, 2024 12:52 am

    Fr. I couldn’t get into this manga too much because they keep mixing in the fact that the uke was raised by his partner and was seen as his child (even when they are being intimate). That was unnecessary. Like the author could’ve made them met when both are adults, and absolutely NOTHING of the plot would be lost. It’s kind of sick that the author deliberately chose this age setting.