skylar and cirrus both have some unresolved problems. for skylar, he gets too jumpy and em...

ma key April 27, 2024 6:01 pm

skylar and cirrus both have some unresolved problems. for skylar, he gets too jumpy and embarrassed abt their relationship; cirrus just gave me some weird vibes from "you know how to make me feel better" n it sounds a bit manipulative ngl. if he's asking for anything more than a kiss/hug im throwing hands

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    hatdiggitydog April 27, 2024 6:17 pm

    he was pretty obviously asking for a kiss tho that's what they were gon do before coach kissblocked :/

    Shounw April 27, 2024 9:17 pm

    Bro how is that manipulation?

    fenisme April 27, 2024 10:39 pm

    he is not asking for anything more than a kiss/hug bruh

    ma key April 28, 2024 4:17 am
    he is not asking for anything more than a kiss/hug bruh fenisme

    as of now that seems to be the case but in the future if he asks for more it wont be healthy im just speculating

    忘れていたよ!!!! April 28, 2024 6:11 am
    he is not asking for anything more than a kiss/hug bruh fenisme

    but it's still something Skylar doesn't want to give him in a public space... it is, by definition, somewhat manipulative how cirrus tries to get his way by making Skylar feel guilty and ignoring the clear boundaries, fears and insecurities Skylar has.
    tho they're dating and kissing should be normal (at least for me it is) but it's not an obligation. this type of conflicting setting is the very reason why terms like "marital rape" exist, not that I'm comparing both.

    hatdiggitydog April 28, 2024 4:22 pm
    but it's still something Skylar doesn't want to give him in a public space... it is, by definition, somewhat manipulative how cirrus tries to get his way by making Skylar feel guilty and ignoring the clear boun... 忘れていたよ!!!!

    to be fair they weren't in a public space when cirrus asked for a kiss, and i don't think cirrus was being as manipulative as you said he was bc he's just an insecure kid at the end of the day, i think all he was doing was venting out his anxieties to skylar about how he feels skylar doesn't want him and he never reassures him

    ma key April 28, 2024 7:10 pm

    also i believe earlier in the series cirrus was in the habit of guilt-tripping which he did again in the most recent chapter, albeit on a small scale

    忘れていたよ!!!! April 29, 2024 12:42 am
    to be fair they weren't in a public space when cirrus asked for a kiss, and i don't think cirrus was being as manipulative as you said he was bc he's just an insecure kid at the end of the day, i think all he w... hatdiggitydog

    i dont wanna push too much on this.. Σ(っ°Д °;)っ but it is public. a school's locker room or a mall's changing room is a public space even if there's no one there.
    and you're also right! (๑•ㅂ•)و✧they're both scarred insecure kids, even so, cirrus does show manipulative behaviors that could get very dangerous later on and that's also understandable bc he was raised in a place where his views on social behavior were heavily affected.
    well, that's just my take!! but i do think manipulation works as a protection mechanism for him, a child scared of losing his first strong connection to someone. so he will do whatever it takes to keep that connection- as in isolating , love bombing , guilt-tripping and overstepping boundaries

    hatdiggitydog April 29, 2024 12:54 am
    i dont wanna push too much on this.. Σ(っ°Д °;)っ but it is public. a school's locker room or a mall's changing room is a public space even if there's no one there.and you're also right! (๑•ㅂ•)�... 忘れていたよ!!!!

    no ik it's a public space bc they're in school lol i just meant rn that storage room was empty and generally ppl don't hang out in a storage room so it was kinda private for them anyway

    but i agree that cirrus is very traumatized and has shown these behaviors as a kid and even as a teen, but yeah i feel like when he does manipulate someone in some cases it feels like he's not really doing it on purpose he just does it automatically bc hes scared of being alone.

    but actually idk if you've seen the newest raws i dont wanna spoil it for you, cirrus actually had a moment of maturity where he apologised instead of trying any of the methods you mentioned (guilt tripping, isolating, etc..) so i think it's fair to say he's growing as a person

    忘れていたよ!!!! April 29, 2024 2:42 am
    no ik it's a public space bc they're in school lol i just meant rn that storage room was empty and generally ppl don't hang out in a storage room so it was kinda private for them anyway but i agree that cirrus ... hatdiggitydog

    i think we came to an agreement! how nice.
    and I saw up top ch 104! but I don't remember him saying sorry for x, other than scaring him i think. but i do think he knows when he's too much but I don't think he really grasp the heaviness of his actions fully, but that's why the story is good, u see their flaws and u also see them trying to fix them! plus they're just children... they have plenty time to discover themselves and learn healthy behaviors towards themselves and their partners later on

    hatdiggitydog April 29, 2024 3:07 am
    i think we came to an agreement! how nice. and I saw up top ch 104! but I don't remember him saying sorry for x, other than scaring him i think. but i do think he knows when he's too much but I don't think he r... 忘れていたよ!!!!

    the translation i read cirrus had apologised to skylar about what he did, the whole blocking chan-il from his phone thing, and explained it was bc he felt anxious about chan-il and said that it's okay if skylar doesn't like him bc he'll wait until he does :((((

    anyway yeah cirrus is definitely self aware but he just cant help being the way he is poor babyy :(( i do hope him and skylar continue to grow and heal even tho i honestly think they really are just hurting each other being together right now when they're still traumatized but i guess there wouldn't be a story otherwise lol it was nice talking with you about this tho