I can’t ever get myself to read through this after someone said Navier is pretty much th...

—- April 26, 2024 9:52 am

I can’t ever get myself to read through this after someone said Navier is pretty much the equivalent of a white colonialist getting mad at a slave for trying to get out of slavery and fk over the system that enslaved her for her relative’s crimes lol

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    LunaTsuki April 26, 2024 10:17 am

    Wow, now people are angry at Navier for rightfully feeling the emotions she went through?

    Eiji April 26, 2024 11:11 am

    She watched the love of her life fall in love with someone else and neglect her feelings…

    LivHoney24 April 26, 2024 3:02 pm

    This is a terrible take ngl

    LoonJun April 26, 2024 5:24 pm

    LFMAOAO this is a funny take. While we don't see the empire take over nations in this story, the slavery is not through conquest but through crimes. Rashtaa is a slave because her parents committed a crime, and she is forced to work it off. Though the story says slaves are generational, it never states the person who committed the crime can just elect their kids to do it, because her father is alive. That's the reason slaves are looked down upon and why Navier doesn't really do anything to resolve that. Its criminals that are serving, and children of criminals. It follows the same mindset of "the apple doesnt fall far from the tree" gimmick.

    somnia April 26, 2024 9:44 pm

    You could say that, but it completely ignores Navier and Rashta's (the former slave) personalities. The author did not write this with slavery in mind, it's more so supposed to be a twist on that rofan trope where the typical commoner girlie falls in love with a royal and against all odds ends up ruling the country with him. Honestly, Rashta having been a former slave is background info if nothing else and serves as petty justification for her malice.

    They did miss out on that though. It would've been interesting to see Rashta go somewhere and make a point, but she's just an obstacle to be mad at. A seething hoe that happens to be a former slave too. You can imply that the author thinks a certain way about slaves/poor people, but that's just pointing fingers with no solid proof.

    Gravenshi April 26, 2024 11:34 pm

    I mean, Navier gave her first love away. What more you want from her?

    —- April 27, 2024 11:11 am
    LFMAOAO this is a funny take. While we don't see the empire take over nations in this story, the slavery is not through conquest but through crimes. Rashtaa is a slave because her parents committed a crime, and... LoonJun

    So you agree that people should be punished for the crimes of their parents? BRUHHHHHH THIS IS A MAD TAKE,

    —- April 27, 2024 11:13 am

    Anyway yall don’t hate me, it was written from the pov of a black woman who talked about a black slave deliberately fking over a white family as revenge for slavery of her people. Imma defer to her as a fellow brown skinned person and someone who can’t speak on black slavery

    LoonJun April 27, 2024 2:16 pm
    So you agree that people should be punished for the crimes of their parents? BRUHHHHHH THIS IS A MAD TAKE, —-

    No no, I just wanted to provide context of the slavery that's written in the story- even though despite the means, it's still slavery. It's very uncomfortable that the author (novel) introduces slavery into the story and theres no justice brought to the slaves in the empire. I never finished the novel, so I'm not sure if it ends up being resolved.
    In the end Rashtaa is demonized for taking things away from Navier despite it being a woman that's just trying to survive.

    —- April 27, 2024 2:52 pm
    No no, I just wanted to provide context of the slavery that's written in the story- even though despite the means, it's still slavery. It's very uncomfortable that the author (novel) introduces slavery into the... LoonJun

    Oh dude I'm so sorry, I mistook the commenter above you as the you as well so I thought this comment was like a follow up. Yeah totally agree dude, I was excited to read this then damn that truth bomb just dropped on me. Why the hell is Navier and the King enslaving people for their parents' crimes?!?!??! White colonialist vibes ngl

    Gravenshi April 27, 2024 6:13 pm
    Anyway yall don’t hate me, it was written from the pov of a black woman who talked about a black slave deliberately fking over a white family as revenge for slavery of her people. Imma defer to her as a fello... —-

    And here we go... making things about the BLM again. Things should stay in the context they were given, not out of them.

    —- April 28, 2024 6:22 am
    And here we go... making things about the BLM again. Things should stay in the context they were given, not out of them. Gravenshi

    Naw are you black? Doesn’t seem like it from one of your comments about your ethnicity, I ain’t gonna talk over a black person and you shouldn’t too mmmkay

    somnia April 28, 2024 10:07 am
    Anyway yall don’t hate me, it was written from the pov of a black woman who talked about a black slave deliberately fking over a white family as revenge for slavery of her people. Imma defer to her as a fello... —-

    I don't hate you.
    And this manhwa is basically just about royal drama centered around an Empress, and it doesn't wanna mess with the deeper implications of slaves existing to begin with. If that's not for you, then don't read. It's a shame that the author chose to avoid the topic and make their main antagonist into a power-hungry former slave when there was potential for so much more to be said. It hypocritical or the author, but not every story needs to take apart it's politics.

    In any case, why not make up your own opinion about this? You can read it on here without supporting the author anyway. Ngl that blm comment feels like a reach, I feel where it's coming from but again, a bit off the mark here. You'll get it when you read it yourself and can stop when you realize it's not doing it for you.

    Gravenshi April 28, 2024 7:34 pm
    Naw are you black? Doesn’t seem like it from one of your comments about your ethnicity, I ain’t gonna talk over a black person and you shouldn’t too mmmkay —-

    Discriminating now? If you are going to bring an unrelated topic, I'll tell you off. Everything is not about race. Wake up.

    Chu May 12, 2024 12:27 pm
    Naw are you black? Doesn’t seem like it from one of your comments about your ethnicity, I ain’t gonna talk over a black person and you shouldn’t too mmmkay —-

    Why do you believe that bs? Seriously. Only racist Black people have ever said that phrase, point blank. Because everytime they say that, they follow up with, oh you can't be racist to this group of people. Wtf??
    Imagine an Asian or White person saying, Black people can't talk about our situation or give their opinion because their not our skin tone.

    Gravenshi May 12, 2024 12:54 pm
    Why do you believe that bs? Seriously. Only racist Black people have ever said that phrase, point blank. Because everytime they say that, they follow up with, oh you can't be racist to this group of people. Wtf... Chu

    Don't fuel their narrative, which is already off topic. ( ̄∇ ̄")

    Chu May 12, 2024 2:06 pm
    Don't fuel their narrative, which is already off topic. ( ̄∇ ̄") Gravenshi

    Yeah. You're right, I'm doing the same thing, sorry for ruining y'all's original discussion