It’s really not that deep. Just imagine the characters care if it bothers you so much.
I do. It's just annoying, thats all.
Because I draw tattoos for people on the side
Yeah it also took me a minute to get over the whole “tattoos don’t mean anything” bit
Do you have tattoos?
Cause 90% of my tattoos have no meaning other then I thought they were cool, and I was not drunk, did not lose a bet, and none are filler. I'm not alone either.
I'm not saying it's not possible, only that its not the commonality unless people are addicted to getting tattoos (which is a thing). And, no, I do not have tattoos. I'm afraid of needles, although that fear has lessened considerably due to medical issues. I would have become a tattooist if not for that fact. However, like I stated, I do draw tattoo desigsn as a side business. Every request I've had has had a meaning behind it, save a few,, and I've had too many to count. I wouldnt have too much problem with the tattoos themselves if the placement wasn't so odd on the characters. Most artists would discourage certain placements for certain tattoos for legibility, fit and wear.
But really, I was just venting. It's not that big a deal. Just bothered me. Like an itch I can't scratch.
But what I'm saying is you don't have data to back up your statement. Your lived experience does not equal everyone else's.
People get tattoos for all sorts of reasons, meaningful or not. And I hate that you said someone must be drunk to get a tattoo without meaning. That's not true, and is frankly rude and judgmental to both tatoo-ees and tattoo artists.
And if we're going to use experience as facts, then my social media is absolutely littered with people talking about how patchwork tattoos are "in" and the characters here look exactly like that.
I didn't say that was the only reason. I gave 3 reasons, in fact,behich are the reasons I've come across. And also 12 years of experience drawing tattoos for others (because I'm not inking the tatt myself, I have them fill out a questionnaire) is enough "data" to back up my findings.
Also, trends change like the weather. Patchwork may been in now, but it hasn't been for the past decade, so my experience is not based on trends that are so new that it still smells like baby powder.
Maybe the people who seek me out are mainly those who want something with meaning (not necessarily deep meaning, but some sort of attachment to the imagery), but that is my experience. You can't fault my knowledge and experience when I don't choose my clients. We can disagree, and I'm not saying your wrong or your friends are wrong, I'm saying we have different experiences with the culture. You might be seeing only one side and so might I. Both have cultivated our understanding of the culture and reasoning behind it. Like growing up in the same state, but one is from the north and one from the south. Both are going to have very drastic views of the state, regardless of whether it has the same name. It is what it is.
Well your other 2 reasons sucked too but I was too lazy to list them lol.
Also sure, patchwork wasn't in before but it is now and Wet Sand is being written now. I didn't say anything about the longevity.
You are totally backtracking now by saying "attachment to the imagery" lol, that is literally why anyone gets a tattoo.
But anyways, uncle, this convo has drained my social battery.
Uncle?? I'm a woman, thank you. And I wasn't backtracking at all. When I explain something to a stranger, I tend to use more formal language. Don't mistake that for defensiveness of trying to cover up something. My thoughts and experiences don't change and didn't change on the subject because of what you said. We can agree to disagree based on our experiences. And by your own admission, saying that attachment to imagery is the reason people get tattoos contradicts everything you're arguing. Attachment means it's not random. It holds some meaning. It may be spur of the moment due to tattoo addiction, but everyone gets a tattoo based on some sort of attachment. They're never just wholly random. That is the issue I take with these tattoos.
No the tattoos actually has meaning but she doesn't want the readers to dig in much to find any clues.
I know the author says that their friends say their tattoos don't mean anything, but most people get tattoos because they mean something or because they're a fan of something. The only time people get tattoos that don't mean anything is if they're drunk, lost a bet or already became addicted to getting tats and is filling up space. But what bothers me most is the placement of the ones drawn. They make no sense and even an artist would try and convince their canvas to switch placement if it doesn't suit. . . Anyway. This is an olay manga. I can kind see where it's going. Jo is just a blip for Ian to realize how much Scarface means to him. I doubt he'll end up with Jo.