Call me a hypocrite bc I still read this but lowkey a bunch of comments on this thread hav...

The person I was talking to said it was not rape. Nonconsensual sex is rape, and my argument was that it was nonconsensual sex, so. When I was generally speaking I was referring to my initial comment that was talking about other comments not related to this chain.
Sorry ab the gaming thing, just didn’t bother to look it up bc I thought it wasn’t at all relevant to the point, regardless if it was true or not.
To the point I was making, if they have a safe word or an equivalent way to determine if their sex is consensual, then sure. But legitimate rape is not at all BDSM… BDSM HEAVILY focuses on consent between partners especially because the sexual acts are usually more intense so it’s extremely important to determine if everyone involved feels safe and gives their consent. As far as I know Taeju and Euihyun have no way to determine this.
and I want to bring up that CNC is entirely different from rape/noncon. There are a lot of manhwas that use BDSM & CNC safely and it definitely looks nothing like this lol.
I agree sex Ed is very important, it sucks it’s not in your country.
It’s good that you feel it doesn’t affect you. However, even if you disregard the fact that continuous consumption of rape fetishized media will 99% of the time lead to the person being attracted to it, isn’t it pretty clear how much this has shat on our society? 25% of one of the top 5s in ao3 having a rape tag is absolutely insane to me. And the fact that people can’t clearly determine what is nonconsensual or not is a little alarming. If we can’t even get to that point, can we really make the point that nonconsensual content is okay to consume because it’s easily distinguishable from reality? It doesn’t seem that way to me.

I didn't mean that bdsm or cnc applies to euihyun and taeju. Those were just examples of the different degrees of severity of content people can consume. This one was very clearly rape. I don't particularly think this manhwa really fetishises rape because it is clearly portrayed as rape. It's not romanticised. The seme here knows it too, which is why he's trying to atone. This here is where the only difference comes in. In real life, there is no redemption arc. People don't happily get together with their rapists in real life. What you're saying about romanticising rape is correct but from my pov it doesn't really apply to this comic.

Also the gaming thing is relevant if you think about it. As I said, you cannot compare one bad thing with another. Aggression can get so bad, people kill out of it. Crimes are under such grey area that we can't really say yes this was worse or no this was better.

I think the matter here is Immersion. How willing are some people to immerse themselves in a story like this?

(Not criticizing - whoever relates, you keep doing you!)

• Some people say they have past trauma and reading this kinda stuff helps them cope.
• Other people read it no probs, having no issues simping for Sangwoo, Jaekyung, etc in fiction and chemically castrating theirs asses as we smile IRL.
• Some people don't check or are misled by tags and by the time they get to the first SA, they feel too invested to drop and... decide to power through their own discomfort. Skipping sex scenes that sometimes take entire chapters that contains key interactions for the plot between the MCs.
• And some other people that clearly struggle reading stories depicting SA but for some unfathomable reason proceed to just like the previous group

That's on SA, but there's also omegaverse. How much do they know about, how much thought have they given it? Just the basics (second genders and pills), down to biology or even politics?

It's an important point because omegaverse isn't like a side ship you can just ignore if you don't fancy it.

"I hate omegaverse but there are many banger stories out there that are omegaverse. Eh, I'll read and just pretend it isn't."

You can't. It's an entire, different UNIVERSE.

• Omega pheromones scent during/outside heat (ovulation / no ovulation)
• Cycle heat vs Rut-induced heat
• Cycle rut vs Heat-induced rut
• Feral heat / Feral rut (too many cycles with no partner)
• Male periods
• Knotting
• Bonding / marking / scent-marking

There are sooo many things to be considered that even the authors don't usually enter much in details (usually politics and law).

Not saying Taeju didn't do a lot of raping in the beginning, oh he definitely DID. Euihyun was raped from ch1 to chap 34 (when he says he welcomes Taeju's affections). And then once again in chapter 53 (taeju's rut).

But these last chapters? Guys...

Readers should stop comparing our bodies to theirs. They're NOT the same. If Euihyun smelled like he was in the mood for more, then he was.

because it's dubcon at most, rather than straight-up rape.

you mentioned that readers' morals are watered down by too much rape in yaoi. so I pointed out that those who complain are seemingly the ones watering down the seriousness of rape by scrutinizing every detail in the sex scenes and labeling it as such. tht's why i said that if these scenes or themes make them uncomfortable, they can choose to stop reading the story (instead of continually complaining about deviations from their expectations regarding how the characters should fuck or how the story progresses in general.)

and to sum up all my previous replies: they are not real, it's not that serious

*when i say it's dubcon, im pertaining to the sex scenes in the recent chapters. im not justifying/rationalizing tj's behavior in the past because he DID rape and abuse euihyun before we got to this point in the story