They're both fucked up. But Jesse with memory wipe is fine I guess.
Are you saying Jesse as an adult w/o his memories is an okay guy? Ummm, you do realize that isn't his real personality? Is something conjured up? I rather take real whether it's good or bad. But maybe, that's just me.
where? LOL cus nodody(here) said Jesse is an innocent victim..plus the majority is not still even sure about Jesse's feelings( the majority thinks Law is the only one who is in love here)
I think people has more sympathize towards Jesse more cos he is just more honest about himself (contrary to Law)
Law(himself) admit Jesse said you what he wants without embellishing things.
manipulator,mean,rude? yeah probably Jesse is all these things but he never hides that. When Jesse play his games, he even give you options and don't force you to be his slave.
Jesse is like "Do you want to play this game with me? good, you will follow my rules but you better leave if you can't. That is Jesse.
While Law is a sly fox who keep doing "things" excusing himself with multiple excuses..he really acts as if he is not making some bad thing (just wait for more chapters/updates ,you will be see his fucked up nature/mind a bit more)
Law is the type of person who will do whatever to achieve his goals no matter what.
He wanted to put Jesse on Moritat no matter what,then he did it.
When Moritat projects ended on chapter 33, this clearly shows Law put Jesse on Moritat without his authorization. That's why Jesse was angry and ask him why.
So yeah,Jesse is not a saint at all but I can said Law is on other level of insanity. At this point I would not be surprised if this is Law who killed Jesse's parents order to achieve his big goal.
Lol you are entitled to believe what you want. Jesse did put Law under first w/o his consent too so, you're mad because Law returned the favor? I repeat Jesse is a master manipulator. Law learned how to play the game and people are pressed. The student became the teacher. Surpassed too? This is not to excuse Law But once again this is for the people thinking Jesse is innocent or the victim. If it doesn't apply to you, ignore it. Yes people do believe that. We still have yet to see what made Law completely shut down or if he was behind everything. Another level of insanity? Until the WHOLE story comes to light I wouldn't give him that title. And even so...¯_(ツ)_/¯
we can argue who more extreme from the other[both of them basically]. who worse then the other, while the reality is....they both turn out this way not from the air. it their Environment and family that made them be who they are, that teach them that it is a good thing to manipulate people - they are the worse people!. [Law family (︶︿︶)＝凸 fuck them!]
and people believe that cause of the first chapters, you can't erase them from your mind and say Jessa is horrible now bla bla bla. it doesn't work this way!!!
again, we started with Jessa POV and now we seen the other POV while knowing Jessa mind from the first chapters. to me, Jessa is brilliant and cruel. he always has a sharp mind, a sharp logic and thinking.
and while I can say both of them are the biggest manipulate people. I can get clearly why Jessa become this way, and why he's doing what he's doing. cause he is very honest about it. he know people will manipulate him, and they did in a cruel way. he was right in the end XD what is ironic.
and the difference between the case that Jessa pick his mind first - it was when he was much younger and more stupid.
while Law doing it while he's older and know what he's doing! so what is worse, to me is the the older case. it a very very very big difference!!! even if you deny it, and I"m not saying anyone here is better. just that the whole comparison is wrong in the first place.
I still like Jessa mind XD he is a genies after all for creating that machine from the first place. so yeas, it is a very good comic for showing us that bad and good is not that easy to say in life. both of them were the worse!
I get your point of view But you see, I see it differently. I think it's much worse for a young kid to be able to manipulate, be calculating and cold at such a young age (Most serial killers begin this way ) Lol. Means he's better at it. You expect that from adults not a kid. It s much scarier to me anyway.
I get your point of view But you see, I see it differently. I think it's much worse for a young kid to be able to manipulate, be calculating and cold at such a young age (Most serial killers begin this way ) Lol. Means he's better at it. You expect that from adults not a kid. It s much scarier to me anyway. Law learned as the years went by. You're right, that is a big difference. All I know is both have been groomed to be the way they are. I just think it's unfair to make Law the only bad boy here. We all know better. x) Oops I posted to myself like a noob. Lol
actually this topic come out in Danganronpa Another Episode: Ultra Despair Girls, and show this topic much batter!!!
basically children, cause they young and pure tend and can be even more cruel then adults are. they have the possibility to enjoy killing animals, bullying, judging others, hurt them and hate them without even thinking about it or feel guilty or get that it is a bad thing then after they grow up and get married.
has young you are, the limits you have is less. which means, if you don't have those limits, with the environment the crueler you are. and yeas, some children, I seen a fucking 8 years old talking and look at others like they are trash! so yeas, the younger you are, the bigger the chance you can do much cruel things then after you grow up and learn that it is bad.
but that is also differences that children that are cruel can learn and get batter from what they were unlike the adults. they can change! unlike adults that it very hard for them to change [anime that show this was "Kodomo no Omocha" much more then the manga. with the teacher that decided that one kid in his class is "bad" cause of his past and treat him like he is a devil.]
of course the family can be at fault too, but I think that adult that know the limits and still doing it is much worse then the younger and stupid kid that just wanted attention and to try this new toy he created. but that is only my opinion XD
and in this case, after Jessa grow up we didn't seen much of his manipulate thing like he was when he was younger. well there was that maids case, but that cause the maids just wanted to fuck with him soo....yeas. actually he seem much more kind then he was when he was younger maybe? yeas he still clingy has fuck and possessive, but that help him feel not alone or a tool I guess. and Law like it XD I"m not saying Jessa is an angel, he still the manipulate cruel genies I come to love ^^ but not that much manipulate like Law is been now. since he show him his weaknesses what Law took to use for his benefit very fast.
Jessa could have get much more manipulate then he was when he was younger, but he didn't. so give him some slack and get that this is their Relationship, a circle of manipulation of the other without mercy or guilt, they both doing it when the other putting his guard down.
so I mostly blame the parents!!! they don't deserve to have children!!!
It's amazing how people have convinced themselves that Jesse is a poor innocent victim that loves Law...(⊙…⊙ )...Have we been reading the same thing??? Not excusing Law But Jesse has been manipulating him from the very beginning. Even messed with his mind w/o consent. He knew why Law approached him from the start, provided water and watched him flounder about to keep afloat for amusement. Law started naïve though with parents guiding him, granted not genuine affections but he learned. Now Law just wants equal footing and we are now seeing the facts that his parent along with Jesse twisted whatever genuine affection Law had for him. This is a very unhealthy relationship at best and none are clean....However blaming Law solely and acting as if Jesse is a poor unsuspecting young man is living in pure denial.