Serious consent issues and possible rape

password April 12, 2024 7:09 pm

getting head from someone sleep talking and who was drunk, is rape, no? In the last chapter dongjae says "reverse" because it was painful. Shouldn't Tae Oh have done that right away? What kind of logic is "if Tae Oh can do it so can I"? (No, not BL or author logic). And shouldn't Tae Jun have listened to dongjae's "please stop" on page 27 of chapter 30?
Seriously, only respond if you don't fetishise gay men and romanticise rape.

Responses
    Maliacam April 14, 2024 11:58 am

    So, me personally. I agree with the drunk scene. I hated it and as soon as I realised what it was going to happen I didn't even bother to read, I just rolled and skipped it over. Now, the two other ones are debatable. Dongjae doesn't seem to be bothered by it, I'm sure he did want to have sex with Tae Jun, but he didn't expect it to take such a tool on him since he thought Tae Oh was the naughty one. And the "please stop" could be seen as revindication of consent, but I don't think so in this scenario. Sometimes when you are overwhelmed/overstimulated you end up feeling a little helpless and you say things like stop, but you don't actually mean "stop". You can spot the difference by checking the person's behaviour after that statement. The safest and best option it's to stop and ask, obviously. But if they're not trying to get away crying and screaming, but instead moaning and seeming like they're enjoying without repeating what they said, I think it's safe to keep going because stopping could also kill the mood. So you have to beware and pay extra attention after that. In dongjaes case, he said it once if I'm not being forgetful...but he wasn't feeling pain or scared or displeased. Simply overwhelmed. And after it ended he wasn't sad or angry, just exhausted but satisfied.

    Maliacam April 14, 2024 12:06 pm

    I was reading again, and I realised I forgot to mention the reverse part. Honestly to me, It didn't sound like he really meant it. More like he was being a little dramatic and anxious. And since he's never done it before, it'd be more likely that he would keep doubting and not allowing himself to feel good, so Tae Oh tried his best to find the spot to make him feel good. Which he did. If even after that he was uncomfortable and wanted to stop, then yes. But that wasn't the case. But you could see it like that too. In these situations, consent can be a little blurry for some people, that's why in real life you need to have a conversation with the person before to make sure you are on the same page about what is consent or not. Because besides trying to get away and saying no, sometimes there's things like a moaned "stop" that doesn't really mean stop to that specific person. To me, i don't see it as rape when done to me. But I can't say the same for the people I'm with so I will always have to check. If you feel like that is still rape, that's valid too.