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yeah, i made a mistake...sometimes comments here get confusing so i apologize for the mix up.
but ill answer your other comment (that was directed at me)
yes, there are a lot of yaoi under a school setting, but its far from being majority, there are so many other tropes.
if i want to read a bl high school romance, ill look for a shounen-ai (plenty of those out there)
i dont read yaoi and BL in general very often relatively speaking (the BL list that i made on here is less than 100 stories long and this is the only place i read BL), but when i do, it needs to be well written just like everything els that i read.
never have i come across a high school yaoi where minors fucking is justified to the plot rather than being glorified.
there is only one exception- MADK.
its nothing like all those trashy shallow high school yaois that glorify minors having sex...
at the end of the first chapter the mc isnt even a human anymore.
this story just needs the mc to be an eccentric high schooler at the start in order to convey the type of person he is and show what he will grow into be.
its one of the weirdest yet most powerful stories i ever read.
it falls under the horror genre, so its not for everyone, but its incredibly well written and creative.
its a about the loneliness of power/influence and the desire for validation, acknowledgment and companionship.
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yeah, i should've made sure before replying as well. i apologize for calling you a hypocrite the 2nd time. i think it was too strong of a word & uncalled for. i see your point as relatable bc one of my all time favs is "Love Nest" that's centered around a salaryman finding love in the most unimaginable way & taking responsibility for his past actions. it's a pretty stereotypical premise but well-executed. the characters learning vulnerability & honesty is what i felt as empowering.
i want to clarify my statement regarding majority of yaois being under school settings. there are definitely various tropes, but i find that the most popular & viewed yaois are set in schools. we see a lot of it in anime as well, but that's a whole nother conversation lol. i don't see it as glorifying minors fucking per se, but rather plausible. i personally saw my fair share of schoolmates experimenting with sex & in a sense, i find it realistic. but it is overly used & it's getting to the point where minors having sex is the whole plot. to add on to this, my biggest ick is when they throw in rape for the sake of "plot" & justify it as a redemption arc for future character development lol. there's no resistance (a lot of times), reflection, apologies, nor trauma, BUT there's the infamous "you were begging for it" line. shallow garbage truly.
i completely agree that MADK is one of the best, well written/drawn stories out there. it seems almost offensive to label it as simply immoral and horrific lol. i wasn't prepared when it ended but nonetheless, very impactful. sorry this got really long lol
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a large majority of popular yaoi is not in a high school setting, i dont get why you are under the impression that it is.
if you literally go to the yaoi section here and sort it by popularity or by views there are maybe like 5 or 6 yaoi on the first two pages combined that are high school.
in real life it is normal and natural for high schoolers to "experiment" and the like, but you need to think in the context of porn. pornorgraphic content and erotica is targeted at adults, a lot of adults read or watch porn and get aroused by it, so the depiction of minors in porn just doesnt sit right with me. like if we are being real the purpose of high schoolers in porn 99% of the time is "high schoolers fucking is hot" and not "beautiful realistic coming of age story"
now in regards to anime...i frankly dont understand why you even brought that up.
like yes high school setting (or age) is very common for characters in anime, but anime is GENERALLY not pornographic outside of hentai and the like.
and you mentioned rape, for me its more than an "ick".
i will not read a story that romanticizes or downplays rape, like its a total deal breaker for me.
i have no problem with stories that deal dark subjects or heavy topics...when its done right.
this also got pretty long lol
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You sound so holier than thou. What the hell is with your “I’m better than you” attitude? This isn’t your target audience, and you decide to go into the comments section and shame the people who enjoyed this story. My issue with you is that all you needed to say was, “it doesn’t always need porn to be good,” but you came in hot and blazing and told somebody they were a porn addict. You know, on a site that has a lot of it AND on a manga that is tagged yaoi. I’m also pretty sure they were just making a joke, I doubt anybody is like that in real life. Lol
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i didnt shame anyone for liking this story nor did i call anyone a porn addict.
i clicked on this story because i do read yaoi occasionally (you can check my account and see that) and i went to the comments here to judge if its worth my time, then i saw this whole discourse and gave my two cents.
why would i say “it doesn’t always need porn to be good,” when that isnt what this is about.
the issue isnt porn itself, its high schoolers aka minors in porn.
also im not sure who you think made a joke or what the joke even was.
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Okay, I’ll admit, I might’ve gotten the wrong person (I hate the way things are formatted, sorry). But even then, this manga doesn’t strike me as sexualizing teenagers. They decided to wait. It actually does feel like a coming of age kind of thing. It was a little necessary to have them be high schoolers because the whole plot was this girl rejecting the MC for not being ready for sex, which is canonically uncalled for since they’re were barely high schoolers.
And honestly, you still have a holier than thou attitude. Idk
Cute... So where the seggs??