Funny enough this made me do some research & while I'm still struggling with the difference I kinda see it although I don't believe that people who were throwing around pedo meant for it as an excuse/because "16" got some mental health issues. While the term is misused and should be rectified (thank you for explaining), the meaning behind how I thought/used it was always: sex with an underaged minor (which I think based on some comments - they believed the same) which technically did happen (side story & real story)
The term I was actually looking for was statutory rape (however laws etcetc see below) - the crime of having sex with someone under age & at the minimum molesting of an underadged person (read the last few chapters - literally says "and sleep with him" with an image of my dude like... I'm sure you can interpret that)
One thing to make clear - there was some form of sexual (at least) touching & very super slap in the face implications of sleeping together/sex (bc sleeping together is usually another way of saying it)
Ppl cannot assume "16"'s process of targetting & hunting. The reason for this is because it is never explicitly stated or given a step by step therefore not a solid fighting point. He did stalk the guy, so there was a level of "knowing" that they aren't exactlty - not - in school (most likely highschool or middle school based on the fact that there are uniforms and the desk set up along with a gym shed type thing - can do your own research but this isn't typically seen in universities) hence the predatory vibes (literal and law wise) since he didn't back off after knowing this & engaged in sexual stuff even if that wasn't the main goal (don't know if it was going to be a rape then kill or kill then rape or just kill - sociopaths are a wild card). One can make that assumption because dude literally took his identification card with probably the birth date and all he would have likely & I mean y'all saw that wall...
- Side notes: This may not apply in the case of the story because it is speculation (hence no real grounds) but some killers are slick with it especially when targetting victims. People who are often easily forgotten (ie. those who are homeless because they aren't usually missed and no one would normally report them going missing - generally people who are already isolated) which is seen in the case of the MC (I'm sure you can do your research here). Additionally, he was an easy target (but that's imo - I mean isolation and possible mental health issues could contribute to whether or not yk... you're a desirable target). Basically, I'm saying that he coulda stalked MC before he even got into contact with him (also consider how they met) & known (heavy spec) his age
NOW for laws. In Western society bells be ringing, court be courting, and jail looking like 100% here. However, since this is probably set in China (I'm just using MC's name as a base - I realize that dude could be from china but in US or whatever but like set up, stores, school = east asia probably) the age of consent is 14 (depends - but lower than where I'm at). HOWEVER, I didn't dig deep, butttt minors are considered anyone 18 under (most likely my boy over there) so that is something to consider. While he could be 18 (senior year) that should have been stated explicitly because as much as we like to say "stop making a kid outta this person - so what if they look young" in cases like this where MC built like that it is hard to not drift towards: highschool... small guy... looking like a child... oh fuck... & while people are able to be like "dude probably 18+ I ain't gonna let it bother me" it isn't hard to believe ppl were struggling with that one. Why let room for speculation when you don't have to?
You are right though on the last part - a 15 (for ex) year old with a 21 year old (relationship) is not exactly considered pedo activity/illegal HOWEVER they cannot (where I'm at anyways) engage lawfully in sexual intercourse
^ That relation could also be considered grooming though as well so...
That's the end of the rant
No I am not a hermit who has the time for this - just procrastinating asf
First, thank you for engaging with my comment in good faith. It's so rare like whenever I've replied to anyone's comment objecting that the ml is not a pedophile, I've gotten attacked, been accused of being a pedophile, been called a creep, and that I enjoy cp and what not. Tbh I was dreading your comment would be something along those lines. I'm happy it's not.
While I agree with you on many points my original comment was only to clear the misunderstanding people have about pedophilia and pedophiles. These terms have become so overused their meaning has become far removed from their actual definition. I'm sorry if you wanted an in-depth discussion but I'm very tired so that won't be possible. About the side story tho, it's ambiguous because mc is a vampire in it so we don't know his real age. I think it'd be funny if he was the older one in that au tho lol.
Thanks for the comment. With all the negative reactions and personal attacks on my character I'm glad there was atleast one person who decided to react like a decent human.
I don't think anyone clairifying terms in the "benefit" (or along those lines) for others should be then attacked & I prefer (even though I am/can be) to be non judgemental esp online cuz we never get the full picture. Clarifying is not the same as defending (crazy, I know LMAO).
I can definetly agree on the misuse/overuse of the term. I don't think people really learn things like "statutory rape" or other law ish terms and use one thing to generalize all cases, which isn't great, but if you lack the time and the effort to do research I can't blame them. I'm glad though that I got to learn something HAHA. (unfortunately a lotta words are getting misused but thats the shitty world we living in-)
As for the ambiguity, I don't know if you read ch12 but that would be a good start. It is part of the main storyline and there are strong implications. "16" at least gave MC a handjob, like at the minimum & as I quoted, there was a scene with MC on his back covered in fluid saying something along the lines of "and sleeping with him". If this was the innocent type, I would think they would be cuddled under the covers actually sleeping, not looking like they ran a marathon . (Additionally he says something about having to miss school, etc, and other very yeehaw poses). But I agree on the vampire one, MC probably the creeper in that (being probably hundreds of yrs old LMAO)
I don't think a fair & logical argument should be met with whackass attacks of character. If someone wants to defend a point, yacking "oh u must support this behaviour" is wild and not productive. Of course, it's a bad defensive tactic, but it's usually done because they are either uneducated & have nothing else to say or yk... keyboard warriors who think they stopping cp by attacking (the wrong) people. It's not hard to see who the real problematic ppl are, but everyone likes to loosly shoot away.
Yeah apparantly people like you are rare. Crazy times we're living in. I agree with everything you said. Like it's one thing to disagree, to remain ignorant and not learn, that doesn't affect me. But calling a stranger(especially online) something which is a disorder and diagnosed by doctors is another thing entirely. It's beyond rude and people's lives and careers have been destroyed over it. Not to mention throwing the word around carelessly makes it lose its meaning and other people who see it use also get misinformed and then use it incorrectly. They really didn't have to attack me. If they didn't like what I wrote, ignore it and move on, why be so vicious and mean online? There's a real person behind the screen who also has feelings. I'm confident enough in myself to not let these things bother me much except getting angry and irritated but not everyone's like this.
They think they're so morally superior that it makes them blind to their own faults and biases. No one is pure. And calling strangers pedophiles isn't helping the real children suffering from abuse. They can pretend all they like that they're good and right and label others bad but it's just a fantasy they're living in. Keyboard warriors is the right term for them.
Oh and my ambiguous statement was only about the vampire au in the Halloween and Christmas special episodes. There is nothing ambiguous in the main story lol.
Guys please stop misusing serious terms like pedophile. A pedophile is someone who's sexually attracted to prepubescent children. It's a psychiatric disorder. In fact, majority of child molestors aren't even pedophiles at all. And many pedophiles don't commit csa.
Here, the mc is post pubescent and the ml has not shown any kind sexual attraction to a prepubescent child, he didn't even know the mc was underage when he targeted him so he's not a pedophile. Stop calling him that.
To give an example** MAJOR CHAINSAW MAN PART 1 SPOILERS** Read at your own risk
{Start spoiler}
Makima sexually abuses Denji and offers him sexual favours in return for doing her bidding but she's not a pedophile. And even the fandom agrees on this. She's a groomer and yes she did sexually abuse Denji but that doesn't make her a pedophile.
{End spoiler}
An underage character/adult character relationship is not pedophilia, you're conflating underage with prepubescent. I understand why it makes some people uncomfortable but this constant misuse of terms like 'pedophile' trivializes the real, horrific problems.