We aren’t discussing abusive behavior- I asked why the person who posted this doesn’t like the ML. Nothing to do with pretty pictures…. The MC has ever right to call out rape, tell him to stop, say NO, and also most importantly BREAK THIS VERBAL agreement between the two of them……… We are all reading the same manhua the MC continues to go on those “dates”.
Also slow your roll, I am NOT most people and I never go “goo goo ga ga” over pictures…….. this is a fiction piece of work and within the own Plot the author has shown to the readers the MC is a WILLING participant until the MC starts screaming bloody murder says he doesn’t want this, he will continue to be treated like that… and that’s exactly why it’s not “obvious” and I don’t care if it was humiliating and it’s not a healthy relationship because ITS ALSO NOT A REAL RELATIONSHIP….. it’s a god damn business deal
Stop making assumptions about strangers when you assume you make an ass out of you and me and you are over doing it
being forced to do something as a last resort doesn't make him a "willing" participant!! and just because it's a "business deal" doesn't give him the right to abuse and humiliate mc. like, his entire behavior and attitude is so fcking unnecessary!!! mc's life is literally being threatened by his brother... he shared his reasons and asked for help, and ML is taking advantage of that without disclosing anything about how he himself also benifits from this deal. MC has no idea what his agenda is, and yet is being forced to agree with everything he demands. The sex is not consensual in these circumstances!
additionally, this is supposed to be a mutually beneficial agreement so ML has no reason whatsoever to be a complete ass and treat mc the way he has been. He's acting like he's doing mc a favor, when in reality mc is also doing HIM a favor in return. He's being manipulative, doesn't tell mc anything, has rough humiliating sex with mc and gets off on it, and expect mc to agree to whatever terms he sets. If you can't see what the problem is then idk what to tell you
i dont think you possess basic reading comprehension. the mc CANNOT break the agreement or like he said his brother will literally fucking kill him. and my previous comment was a joke made to express the illiteracy of people like you, but again i guess your reading comp has failed you and you couldnt recognize something as obvious as that. and you literally said it yourself, you dont care if the relationship is healthy. so you RECOGNIZE that their relationship is manipulative, the sex is abusive and coerced/forced, and yet you are still reaching to “why do people dislike the ml??” HMM I WONDER WHY!!! theres so much more stupid shit that i could point out in your response but frankly i dont wanna waste more time on ur dumbass
If he is not a willing participant so why is he staying? If you are saying it’s the responsibility of the ML to care about the MC’s brother drama that’s not the case sis. The ML has not reason to be Prince Charming they are strangers and again not a couple. The MC is a pushover yes but this is also a fictional piece of work. That was consensual because if the MC said the deals off fuck you get off me or I’m gonna scream rape and sue, you really think the ML would have continued?
The fact that you use the brother killing him within the first line means you aren’t comprehending. The MC just wants to appear gay IT NEVER HAD TO BE THE ML, that’s who the MC choose. And I think it’s funny you think the MC is somehow forced by the brother to be with one guy like the MC doesn’t have the ability to start sleeping with other men. Instead of readers go ga ga over images maybe you need more REAL life experiences with relationships and dating so you can see how fictional a lot of these stories are and why people aren’t as emotional invested like you are, and immediately going “the ML is trash”. Just reading your comment a second time is so cringe worthy that you are on a completely different level of delusional when it comes to manga and manhuas……
Friend, I don't think it's about being "prince charming", it's about basic responsibility of being the guy doing the penetration.
I'm a top too, also dom in bdsm play, so I tell you that it doesn't matter if the relationship's casual, romantic or whatever, it's basic decency to not go past your partners limits since sex is supposed to feel good for everyone involved.
For me a guy that only cares about his own pleasure, humiliates and hurt his sex partner is trash, even in fiction.
Even contractual relationships, like you keep claiming to defend ml's behavior, needs to have the boundaries discussed properly, and they can change at every moment if one of the parties notices that what their doing isn't for them.
I respectfully advise you to look into rape culture for a better understanding about will and proper consent.
MC consents to the act but he isn't really "willing", since he's situation is about life and death, he's desperate enough to be unable to scream rape.
Even in real life, people, specially women, consent to do it unwillingly all the time because they can't say no for one reason or another.
You defend ml denying how abusive he is with so much passion, for me it looks like you're the one really emotionally invested.
If you enjoy stories with self centered assholes like this one, you're pretty lucky since they are the majority out there... But, please, do so with full understanding that this kind of behavior is abusive.
Denialism is dangerous.
I’m verse and I’ve been around the block, I am well aware of hard limits and safe words and what rape culture is. He’s no Prince Charming but this isn’t a relationship for me to look at the ML and have my mind immediately go into rape culture because again this is fiction- in a real life setting conversations are had before hand and me personally unwanted surprises are not dealt with by being passive. More than anything what is triggering me is random strangers trying to correlate how I view this piece of fiction and its characters to translating to how I would be in real life. The way it sounds like I am being lectured by no offense what sounds like someone in their early 20s when I am more than likely your elder did not rub me the right way in the slightest. You approached the situation differently than JP because JP went right to insulting someone and that’s not how you get your point across so I applaud and appreciate you for that..
Also I’m not defending his behavior per se I’m defending my apathetic attitude to the MC and ML actions. I just literally don’t even focus on their sexual escapades I care more about the plot. They aren’t in a relationship so I’m not judging the individuals as good boyfriend bad boyfriend. Also it was pretty obvious when you admitted to being a top and in the bdsm community that you are applying your real world standards to this - which there is nothing wrong with that. Also we literally have no clue if the ML treats an actual real lover with the upmost respect and providing so much tender love and care. You must also be pretty aware that everyone wear masks..:: that how someone acts around you might not be the same way they would act around me and making judgement calls on individuals with only knowing a tiny portion of their character is premature. If you want to focus on how the ML acted with the MC in the bedroom sure it was inconsiderate and a dick move but I’m not going to start labeling them as trash but that’s just my opinion.
The reason I mentioned rape culture was because of your discussion with jo. It didn't look like you understood their point about consent and will. I'm 10 years past my early 20s... Sorry if my way of speaking triggered you in any way, it's just that it doesn't make any sense to me how far you're going to defend the ml when you yourself admitted, in your words, that he was "inconsiderate and a dick", and that was the whole point about my statement.
It's exactly because it's fiction that I can say, by the way he acted, he's trash. I hope the author give him a proper character development so he evolve into a decent human being, but as far as I read, he's just a selfish pathetic asshole who mistreated mc because he's full of issues.
I usually care more about the plot too, but, like you said, it's hard for me to not apply my real life standards when I see abusive behavior, I can let it slide when I see promising plot and characters, unfortunately it wasn't the case with this one.
There's no reason for anyone to offend anyone, we can all agree to disagree.
ML is utter trash