wait should I have put this in the comment section above.....? Uh...
So what about Ciel? Doesn't she also like him?
Yea about Ciel. She does like Eugene and he has known for a long time but was just unaware of the extent. He ignores it until she confronts him in Shimuin (The country of knights and the place all of them go to track down and kill Iris a demon that Eugene and Sienna hold a large grudge against) and he shows up with both Kristina and Sienna. See, Ciel had already seen Eugene with Kristina at the Estate and everyone had figured they had something going on and that they were possibly dating. Its mentioned a lot in the LN how generally Eugene and Kristina being together is widely accepted due to the whole Hero and Saint trope that fits well image-wise. I think Ciel gets mad when she sees Sienna being added and goes "Why not me" basically. Which if everyone knew that Eugene was Hamel then of course people would root for them as well (like Lovellian did when he found out). When she does start confessing Eugene rejects her and then she gets upset saying she doesn't understand why he accepted Sienna and why can't he see her as a woman. Its this whole back and forth and basically she throws a bitch fit about being treated as a child (which is funny cause she's still acting like a child). Eugene confesses that he's Hamel, and Ciel says she doesn't care and that to her he's Eugene, and as he's Eugene she was there first. I think she also says he's being cowardly. Honestly its pretty insufferable because she says in the beginning "I've been here first, I've loved you first" which we know is sooooo wrong. Like even if he's Eugene currently and Hamel is his past life do you know how much Sienna and Anise (esp Sienna) worked and waited and suffered for Hamel to be reincarnated??? Like bitch I can't. Anyway, ultimately she's rejected and also slapped in the face by Kristina. But Kristina takes pity on her and so does Sienna lowk. I think Kristina supports her love and probs Sienna and Anise pity her
I just think if she wants to being treated as a grown person THEN ACT LIKE ONE. Her personality already is childish (and she tech is still a child). Her throwing what to me is, in the worst description, a temper tantrum, only makes everyone feel sorry for her. Also when Nior Giabella attacked them (Eugene, Ciel, and Cyan) on the way to the Knights March in Ruhr (I think its was Ruhr) Ciel and Cyan couldn't stand her demon eye and basically passed out which was embarrassing on their pride because they were useless and still couldn't measure up anywhere near Eugene. Because of that, Ciel cried. See I think its totally reasonable for Eugene to see her as a child because no matter how much she screams and shouts and cries, she is still one. Her arguments are ones to make her feel better and ignore the reality that Eugene mentally is like past being an adult and his ambitions and feelings really can't be ignored. One thing that makes me mad too, is that all the girls think they can like convince him of something and change his mind? Excluding Sienna because Eugene actually loves Sienna and Anise/Kristina both know without Sienna's benevolence they wouldn't have the chance with Eugene that they do have now) Idk let him be, he doesn't like Ciel like that, sees her as a child that he helped raise, and sees her as family too. Ciel's relationship after that whole fiasco with the girls shifts as Kristina is rooting for Ciel and Anise, well idk. Sienna doesn't really want to add another person into the mix (RIGHTFULLY SO). I think Kristina feels camaraderie with Ciel because they are around the same age unlike Anise and Sienna, especially since if it weren't for Sienna Kristina would not stand a chance and I think Kristina knows that because she wants to be seen romantically by herself from Eugene as well.
I saw spoilers somewhere that in the end its only Kristina/Anise and Sienna who marry or plan to marry Eugene. So, sorry Ciel lololololol
So, who does he ends up with? Seriously! Couldn't they just keep one love interest. Why they need to add more?
So tldr, it's gonna be a harem??
lol yea, for the people who want an explanation but don't want to read the ln or read the forums lol
Thank youuuuu bc that's what i really want to know i do like a well established harem with a non trashy MC but not a fan of harems in general lmao i'll stop reading this for now, but might continue reading this someday. Kudos for the explanation tho deym that was long
Tysm! I thought that he would end up only w senya but anise is not bad too! As long as it isn't ciell reaaalllyy....
You just talking about their love and harems what about Vermont, is he really behind everything? What happened to him?
That part uhhh, tbh I'm not really sure. I didn't get that far lol. I did see other spoilers and stuff and (also major spoilers) as far as I know Vermouth is like a fragment of the Demon King of Destruction. I think later in the story that whole part of it ties with Hamel's pervious life before he was Hamel and all of that has to do with Vermouth, the Demon Kings (both of them), and Noir
If they were just gunna make this a harem, they should have just added Vermouth and Moron into the harem too. Might as well collect his whole party.
This will include spoilers and is long ASF you've been warned
I made some responses to someone's thread before about the harem and I too was pissed when I learned of it, so I went and spoiled as much as I could and read translation/translated some of the Korean LN after I ran out of those translations as well. Coming back here to relay info that maybe not all of you want to find but still want to know if you want to keep reading moving forward (basically is it worth it?).
I wanna say about the whole harem thing in a general, is that it definitely isn't one dimensional. Since the story is already so good, the characters are also built much better than other Op MC's or reincarnated MC's with basically a large following of girls or guys that then create a harem. I think the power fantasy trope leads people in making pretty bland characters which becomes annoying when you have only built one decent character (sometimes not even that) which is basically the MC. It becomes tough when you can't see a relationship(s) between the MC or characters in general either.
With all that being said, my honest opinion is that the harem is really not that bad. IMO, am I partial to harems...... mmmmm no. Harems are just used to fuel the ego of the reader vicariously through the MC, like these characters are just fodder basically. And most of the time they are annoying because they aren't well developed people! The difference here, is that the harem (which is more like a following to boost the MC, so imo I would call the relationship in Damn Reincarnation more poly or something idk) are all characters that I like or have grown to like (And I think you guys will too). The whole thing is complicated because well first, Eugene is immature and clueless when it comes to love (like to an embarrassing degree). He doesn't know how to reciprocate or really what he's doing. Which makes sense because he spent his last lifetime actively avoiding love. Secondly, Anise/Kristina's personalities are a bit warped. They spent their lives giving everything to the Church and being made to be a perfect vessel/fuel a perfect vessel to serve the Church. Like I said in a previous comment, Anise lived and died in a pretty shit way and Kristina had lived her life that way too. Eugene saving them both and freeing them lets them see the opportunity they have (And for Anise the opportunity she can have in this life), and that opportunity is Eugene. For Kristina Eugene is her savior (which is cliche, ik), but Anise is obviously a little more complicated than that. Since they both have never really gotten to express their desires before and didn't even consider a future with their desires, this is where the warped part comes in. In the LN they're both described as snakes (mainly Anise but later also Kristina). They use that compassion that Eugene has for their circumstances, like Kristina saying she would take no one else but Eugene and if rejected would live with that and with no one else. Some of it is a guilt trip and some of it is them putting pressure on Eugene who is romantically immature, because unlike Senya who is like Eugene, (Shy, awkward, and not upfront because they are embarrassed and both prideful people) Anise/Kristina will do whatever to make Eugene see them in a romantic light (took his first kiss and does other shit in the LN too). Third is the relationship that Senya and Anise have which I think is really important. They are best friends and care about each other a lot. In the LN Anise was aware that Senya like Eugene and she put her own feelings for Eugene on the backburner for Senya. They even wrote that book together about Hamel the Idiot because they were both pissed he died. In the current time period where Hamel was reincarnated, Senya, knowing Anise's feelings for Eugene, has a hard time fighting her best friend for him because she wants her to be happy too, and vice versa. They both give and take a little because they both think they deserve happiness and love that's been long overdue for each of them.
The weird thing is, is that I feel (idk just conjecture) is that maybe the author was going for Senya x Eugene, because it is genuinely set up that way. And then later on felt pressured to add Anise because they felt bad or readers or somebody made them. Cause imo Anise/Kristina deserve happiness too. Honestly one of the most memorable moments in the LN is Eugene rescuing Kristina. I feel like I read somewhere that the author has gotten tired of the series? I don't remember where tf I read that but it would make sense since there are literally so many effing chapters of this series that have not been translated from Korean.
If you guys have any questions also just ask (Like about Ciel since everyone hates her lol) or about other things I will gladly answer if anyone is interested sorry this post is so long too lol