Ick

?? When was/is Lyle unconscious?? (I’m being generous I promise)

*genuine

i think in the future chapters ?

When was he unconcious? Which chapter?

Yes thank you! This whole time I’ve been thinking wtf is romantic or even pleasurable about this situation?! I have P.D.A. (It’s an autism profile) so if someone tried to do ANY of this to me I’d have a meltdown and start kicking ass.

.....didnt ash warn lyle to fuck off since it's his rut and it can be dangerous but lyle was like "I'll be fine." ??? As an alpha himself was lyle unaware of the consequences of his own words and acceptances for ash's rut??? Like you didnt know he was gonna ravage you until nothings left???

Yeah man, the consent was chapters back. Ash gave many chances for him to leave before the UNCONTROLLABLE rut started. Y'all just conveniently forgetting it happened.

Consent can be revoked at anytime.

Finally someone said it

In fact, you are right. It was chapters back, and we came to the point where Lyle is literally telling him to stop and is running away. If you gave consent one time, it doesn't mean you can not take it back.

That simply doesn't matter. Since we're talking about consent, we need to also acknowledge that consect can be revoked. Even if Lyle said yes that one time, it does nothing since right now, he doesn't consent. Lyle clearly tells him to stop, that he's uncomfortable, that he doesn't like it, and trust me later chapters dont make it any better.

But girl this is an alpha’s rut it’s the same in every omegaverse. Trying to apply real-life logic doesn’t work - like men get pregnant in this world if you don’t like it, just don’t read it. Aint no author supporting noncon (as shown in every other sex scene), this is literally what they do in a rut in every fictional world called an omegaverse and the author just decided to include a part of it. Your response is valid but so is everyone else’s response who understands that this is normal in a omegaverse world.

I could tell that they were setting Ash up to have a “dark side” so to speak, and I had hoped that they would handle this like it was in “all about lust” and have him open up about that side of him (maybe even in a comical way to ease any pressure on Lyle to participate) and let Lyle decide what he wanted to explore with Ash. The stereotype they went with instead is harmful and puts people in real life scenarios like this because their partner has rationalized their own behavior and see themselves as “helping their partner open up to new experiences.”

Dude, trust me, I know what omegaverse is. And I've read other omegaverse that include a rut and dont include non-con, crazy, I know. Listen, all im saying is that all the recent sex chapter are non-con, no matter if Lyle said yes before, that's it.

And now you’ve stated the core problem, the omegaverse is set up like this because it helps writers cater to rapists without tipping off the rest of us that it’s rape. Heat/rut scenes make me sick because they go down EXACTLY like my experience did.

I agree I’ve read plenty of these where the guy in rut has enough consciousness to treat their partner properly.

That all simply doesn't matter either since we're talking about omegaverse here. Regular concept of consent just doesn't apply any longer. I can understand if it was your regular story but this ain't it.

Lyle knew Ash would not and could not stop, it doesn't matter if he says no while he's being pinned down, he already signed up for this the moment he didn't run away when given the chance. He can cry about it but it's not Ash's fault but his own.

Yes, yes, right?

Well, the argument of 'that's just how omegaverse is' is really weak since every omegaverse story has their own set of rules. You can not say that I can't talk about consect in omegaverse stories because they dont work by those rules, when there are omegaverse manga's/manhwas that clearly DO.

With that in mind, the author never ones mentioned that those 'ruts' are normal in this world, and the fact that they gave this ultra dangerous rut to Ash, and made Lyle consent to something that he clearly didn't understood at its fullest, still makes the whole scenerio non-con.

Once the person said that they want to stop, or that they are uncomfortable, or when they make a physical attempt to get away, it's not consent.

My analogy for this is like putting up a "wet floor, caution" sign. People think they're good and won't slip so they just walk on. But then they slip and get hurt. So whose fault is it? The person who mopped the floor and left the sign, or the guy who walked anyway and got hurt?