ML cheating?

Maroochi March 21, 2024 5:31 am

Look its weird that some ppl hate him more then the Seme who killed him. Even knowing the uke probably killed the seme in this universe the situation that lead to eithers death was the Seme being abusive and controlling. The ML toxic behavior is a result of the Semes abusive and controlling nature. Should the uke cheat? No. But as we have all obviously seen breaking up with the seme isnt exactly an easy option.

The Uke should have never got into this relationship in the first place. He thought he could help the Seme and didnt realize the only help the seme needs is a psychward. The seme would have and will obsess over the Uke no matter what the uke does bc thats the sort of mental illness he has. And without psychiatric help and police involvement every pathway is a dead end.

I get it cheating is bad but its the least of all evils atm. Life will never be black and white especially for people in these shit situations. Even then the uke hasnt actually cheated which makes the hate wilder. Like yes he blushed, he was originally straight, and he isnt confirmed gay. But also the Seme is trying to isolate him, just a reminder thats abuse. So yes he is gonna get attached to what little healthy affection/interaction he recieves.

Im not critizing the story, its psychological for a reason. But guys if youre gonna read psychological you cant use such black and white formats. (づ_-)

Responses
    Tenmanyashiki March 21, 2024 12:12 pm

    Say it louder for the people in the back. Can't believe people are commenting how they feel bad about the seme more than the uke and saying the uke is worse.

    CaiChiCat March 21, 2024 1:08 pm
    Say it louder for the people in the back. Can't believe people are commenting how they feel bad about the seme more than the uke and saying the uke is worse. Tenmanyashiki

    It's because the uke groomed him, tbh it's more like uke was the abusive groomer and the seme learned from him and became aggressive and it back fired on the uke and now it seems like the roles reversed (when not really)

    Maroochi March 21, 2024 2:39 pm
    It's because the uke groomed him, tbh it's more like uke was the abusive groomer and the seme learned from him and became aggressive and it back fired on the uke and now it seems like the roles reversed (when n... CaiChiCat

    If that were the reason then the outcry should be directed at the ukes grooming not the cheating. I dont think the Uke ever had the intention to ever be with the seme. If fact there are more then a few cue indicators that show he was uncomfortable with having physical contact with the seme. The intention from the uke just isnt there for me to see grooming. Or is there a such thing as unintention grooming? i dont want to dismiss your point so easily. So Ill have to look into that more so I can see what you mean.

    zamiac March 21, 2024 3:01 pm

    I disagree. You could argue that the seme is worse because he killed the uke, but the controlling one, in my opinion, is the the uke. He never tried to help the seme, he used him as a source of comfort. The seme was clingy because of his background, but he did not get obsessive until the uke started lying and gaslighing him. He keeps playing with the emotions of someone who just became an adult despite knowing how he grew up. The uke is emotionally abusive. Cheating (emotionally and/or physically) is not the only thing he is doing. It is because of this that some people believe he is worse and caused his own downfall. Like you said it's not just black and white.

    Maroochi March 21, 2024 3:19 pm
    I disagree. You could argue that the seme is worse because he killed the uke, but the controlling one, in my opinion, is the the uke. He never tried to help the seme, he used him as a source of comfort. The se... zamiac

    I definitely dont think that the ukes only fault in this is cheating. And i should have made that more clear in my post, because i agree with what you said abt him defaulting to the seme for the sake of comfort. What i meant when i said he thought he was helping is he was trying to play savior. That sort of complex is usually derived from ones own insecurity and loneliness. Which is obvious in the uke.

    I think its weird that people are only adressing the cheating. Like thats the one line he shouldnt have crossed. Which im sure i missed a comment or so that might have adressed other stuff.

    My point is the cheating is much lower on the list of things to hate so its wild that thats what caused a stir. And i suppose thats why I focused more on the Semes negative behavior, and should have also gone into more detail of the ukes faults as well.

    Bc in no way do i think either of them isnt toxic. The uke is an irresponsible adult for trying to take on the semes as a responsibility when he had no stable foundation in the first place. He built an unstable house for the seme and himself and now everything is collapsing in on them. Guess the added problem in this is that apparently the house was haunted as well.

    zamiac March 21, 2024 7:24 pm
    I definitely dont think that the ukes only fault in this is cheating. And i should have made that more clear in my post, because i agree with what you said abt him defaulting to the seme for the sake of comfort... Maroochi

    I think a lot of people focus on the cheating because most people see it as the ultimate form of disrespect and betrayal. It's not uncommon to hear of people doing something terrible to their partners because they cheated. It makes people go crazy with anger. It can also cause extreme depression. Depending on your beliefs and culture, cheating can be seen as on the same level as killing someone or even worse. This may sound illogical to someone who doesn't have the same beliefs or experiences, but some people take it very seriously. I'm not saying you have to agree or that I completely agree. I'm just trying to give a potential reason