Idk about you

AkiChi March 10, 2024 4:35 pm

But cheating is my absolute limit. Doesn't matter if he changed. I will never forget the sight of my man holding and kissing another woman. All this time while reading this my heart ache for ines. Tho it's obvious that Carcel will never like never ever do it again. I just can't. I cant transmigrate in this manwha I'll ruin their marriage lol.
Hate me and Idc I don't like Carcel one bit.

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    snapplecider March 25, 2024 9:58 pm
    Man, why are you so press ? The story is not even that good. You're overreaching like it's some holy sh&t. She just says one thing and people keep expanding it. If some people felt this way, it's valid. If ... KamiMoe

    OP is the one projecting into Ines. They don't even understand her to be saying they aching for her. The author isn't even the author. Read the novel and you'll see how much the manhwa cut out that show what I'm saying. The author writes with such details that you know Ines is the one lucky to be with Carcel. She's the one who keeps making mistakes and misunderstanding Carcel. She kept thinking he's a womanizer but didn't know that wasn't true. She chose him as a fiance just bc she thought he was a playboy from that lifetime when she married Oscar, but she didn't know that he was forced to sleep around bc Oscar was drugging him and taunting him about raping Ines and he slept around to keep Oscar from hurting Ines more. Oscar knew Carcel loved Ines but Oscar hated Carcel. Oscar also remembers the 1st life so he knew Carcel and Ines were supposed to be husband and wife so he raped Ines to hurt Carcel. Why shouldn't I love the ML who literally suffered for the one he loved, helped the painter escape bc he loved Ines and hid his own feelings from her bc he didn't want his feelings to get in the way of her being happy with other men. When she married Oscar, he hid his feelings bc he knew Ines loved Oscar. When Oscar was hurting Ines, he also let Oscar hurt him so that Oscar won't hurt Ines more. When Ines married the painter, he also hid his feelings bc he wanted her to be happy. He even helped the painter escape. Every lifetime, he was loving her well. Why can't I defend him when OP thinks I only like the guy bc he's hot. I love him bc of his character, not bc he's hot. There are many more other manhwas where the MLs are drawn hotter than this. It's OP who got the hots for Ines and only liked her bc she's hot.

    snapplecider March 25, 2024 10:04 pm
    inez was raped, given std, saw the man he loved killed right in front of her, had multiple miscarriages, had her child taken away from her, was deliberately abused and is made to carry all the trauma she experi... minchan

    https://www.novelupdatesforum.com/posts/7090446/

    “So, I’ll compensate you for your losses. I don’t want to spoil even a bit of this handsome face at all.”

    “Actually, it’s a waste of resources to keep that face for my own. I’ll be dumping a gold mine that shows up, and not collecting salt from the sea.”

    “Since I’m proud of Lord Escalante, I won’t let him go to spoils.”

    “In that meantime, don’t leave out your handsome face. How would I have lived if you weren’t handsome? Yes?”

    “A flower withers when plucked, doesn’t it? So leave it where it belongs, and I’ll leave you as you are.” (in the manhwa)

    “You just have to keep looking like this. With a very handsome face. Eyes, nose, mouth, everything stays the same.”

    “As a matter of fact, Cárcel. For a handsome man like you, it is very easy to live like a dog. And it’s not your fault. The world made you like that....”

    I mean, just the way she talked... it's very unusual. :blobrofl: People would think it's condescending but she meant it. She really thought he's handsome and she was wasting his handsome looks by keeping it to herself. Imagine being talked like that since you're young. That's how brainwashing/manipulation works. It's consistent throughout the way she talked to him.

    minchan March 26, 2024 4:32 am
    Ines went through all that just bc she made some wish for Carcel to not be with her so she ended up choosing other men who couldn't make her happy. Carcel's wish for her to choose him again if she can't be happ... snapplecider

    did you not fucking read the whole thing? ines went through that BECAUSE some fucked up deity decided to give her another life, she was suffering a disease as a side of effect of her resurrection. you are not gonna put the blame on her just to uplift carcel who already admitted that he liked ines that time but still cheated first even though they were engaged already because ines was literally dying due to the defect she received after her resurrection. READ THE FUCKING MANHWA YOU DICK RIDING LUNATIC. carcel literally said he would hang out of their manor just so he could get a glimpse of her. ines knew someone like carcel would cheat, but she never encouraged him to do that not until they were married on the 3rd life. he cheated on his own because his fragile ego can't take the fact that ines doesn't care for him at that time. which looking at the bigger picture, is completely understandable due to what she went through during her 2 past lives, why would she even give a fuck about anyone else after all the misery she went through where she was raped, beaten up, abused, had her children taken away from her and so much more? he loved him but was completely irrelevant during her 1st and 2nd lives given how ines still suffered. the way y'all's reading comprehension automatically disintegrates just to defend an attractive male character in spite of the female is quite literally laughable. JUST LOUD AND WRONG. carcel cheated first without ines manipulating shit, he cheated first because he wanted the attention of ines who was literally dying at that time. ines knew he would cheat and he did, on his own. everything carcel is doing now is him owning up to his mistakes and now fully staying true to how he truly feels and that is that he loves ines. that has nothing to do on ines being lucky, if anything ines is too good for him (given the very recent update lmao)

    minchan March 26, 2024 4:38 am
    Ines went through all that just bc she made some wish for Carcel to not be with her so she ended up choosing other men who couldn't make her happy. Carcel's wish for her to choose him again if she can't be happ... snapplecider

    also let me add, carcel didn't want ines at first. so she never bothered making him want her. he gradually fell for her during the 3rd life YET HE STILL CHEATED because he wants ines' attention. get your fact straight. her manipulating him never started until they got married and even then she only deliberately did it only 1 time until she realized she's developed feelings of her own

    snapplecider March 26, 2024 9:24 pm
    did you not fucking read the whole thing? ines went through that BECAUSE some fucked up deity decided to give her another life, she was suffering a disease as a side of effect of her resurrection. you are not g... minchan

    She got another life bc her 1st life she died too early. She should've lived a long life with Carcel but some btch poisoned her and she died early so she got another chance at life. the following lives, she kept regressing bc she kept killing herself. Carcel only know he loved her back then recently. He DID NOT know when he was young. She was manipulating him to think he hated her. I read the novel AND manhwa and they follow the same story. Can't say the same for you who the one who can't read. She don't even have to care for him but would he even be call a cheater if she didn't force that engagement on him? If she wasn't the one forcing that engagement on him, he wouldn't even be her fiance. She force an engagement on him but don't even try to be a fiancee herself. HE the only one that tried for so long. If she can't even be a fiancee herself for the person she force an engagement to then she shouldn't have tried to use him. YOu're the stupid one who can't read and tell others they can't read. Who is laughable. Ines been manipulating him since he was 6. The manhwa just cut it all out from the novel so that readers like you who are ignorant of what rly goes behind the scenes can simp for Ines.

    Even in the manhwa beginning Ines said she been plotting this for 17 yrs. Go check ch11
    Ines: This plan has been in the works for 17 years. It can't all just fall apart like this.
    This was when Ines was mad when Carcel was saying he'll be loyal after marriage and she was mad bc she been plotting this for 17 yrs. They're 23 now. Guess what age 17 yrs ago was? 6! The time when she force him into the engagement.

    Directly from the novel from Ines' thoughts https://www.novelupdatesforum.com/posts/7038672/

    Unsociable clothes. Unsociable relationships. Unsociable gazes…… It was necessary for her to create an environment where Cárcel Escalante can suffocate from the mere thought of her.

    She had to get him fed up with her before he got interested. She had already done so successfully thus far.

    At a time when he was frightened of her for a long time, Inés had spent a few years sending extreme love letters and gifts to the point where he was terrified. She made him overwhelmed by the pressure so he would run away and spread their distance on his own. (She lovebombed him.)

    In those days, Cárcel did not run away as easily as she thought, but it was clear that there had been some progress. Eventually later on, she was afraid of getting married, and she made him go circles when he was in the military academy and the navy. (He did tried to get close to her and she made him run in circles.)

    Nevertheless, the more inevitable time had arrived, and his fiancée, whom Cárcel Escalante was said to be ‘negligent’ with would finally enter the Escalante household. It couldn’t help but be fearful for him.

    Nevertheless, at the beginning, she would hardly be able to do anything else. So she was willing to release the reins in advance. She intended to make him feel guilty as much as possible. Because they had to get married, and he had to have an affair. (She was purposely there in Prologue to make him feel guilty to rush the marriage.)

    Cárcel Escalante would be under so much stress that he had finally gotten married to someone whose marriage he had been postponing, thus of course he had to have an affair.

    snapplecider March 26, 2024 9:28 pm
    also let me add, carcel didn't want ines at first. so she never bothered making him want her. he gradually fell for her during the 3rd life YET HE STILL CHEATED because he wants ines' attention. get your fact s... minchan

    Carcel didn't want her at first when he's just a 6 yr old who was forced but if you read the novel, Ines knew he liked her shortly after that so she been brainwashing him to hate her,
    https://www.novelupdatesforum.com/posts/7038672/
    It was not a definite method to look rustic only in front of Cárcel Escalante. If he saw only the pretty and fancy things, his eyes could go crazy once. His mere visual judgment was not enough.

    The world had to brainwash him. ‘Inés Valeztena is not good enough for you.’ Like this.

    Don’t let him have a moment of interest in her. As soon as the interest wavered, portray herself foolish and silly.

    Inés Valeztena was well aware of her attractiveness reflected to the opposite sex. No matter how she persisted with making herself unattractive, what of the charm that was not quite obscure, what of the fairly pretty face without makeup, and the fact that if she took off her clothes, there would be no more rustic shield, then what should she do…… She took it for granted with vanity, having come down from her previous life.



    Just bc you don't know what goes on in the background, you think I'm the one who needs to get the facts straight? You are the one who needs to.

    snapplecider March 26, 2024 9:38 pm

    This line was also cut out from the novel to make readers like you think Ines is so faultless.
    https://www.novelupdatesforum.com/posts/7325216/

    "Human memories were inherently cunning. They sometimes do anything for their owners. 'I'm a rag by nature.' It was true that he felt comfortable thinking he was a rag before he even became a rag. What does a fiancee who's not even interested in me have to do with anything?"

    This showed that he wasn't initially a 'rag' which could be a derogatory term for 'slut' in Korean. But when you're a teenager and the girl you love isn't even paying attention to you, you might as well act as one since he already thought of himself as one naturally, but the only reason he even thought he was one naturally before he became one was because of Ines. If you ever read Ines' thoughts, the one from the raws novel, not the official translation, Ines always go on and on about how she thinks he's naturally a rag anyway so it's fine to keep expecting that and telling him that. Was he naturally one? No. She just unintentionally ended up brainwashing him to think he was one and he acted upon it in a rebellious mode as a teenager.



    https://www.novelupdatesforum.com/posts/7231103/
    More on Carcel's sleeping around. He slept with 10-20 women in current lifetime, never more than once with any of them. There were also things that were already established from the novel such as how he didn't sleep with women who were married or were virgins. He also didn't sleep with women who were not nobles or around his status. There weren't much women of his status around where he works and he doesn't like social events so he didn't go out of his way to do that to meet women. It was just easier in Mendoza. As for what was the reason why he slept around, it was a multitude of reasons. Author-nim said it was also a defense mechanism triggered from past lifetime as the past does seeped into the current lifetime. She also mentioned it was thanks to him sleeping around that Oscar wasn't as active in trying to break their engagement. (This is true as the moment Oscar heard of rumors that Carcel is crazy for his wife, he rushed to send assassins again.) His sleeping around also lowered Ines' guard because she had this preconceived notion of him. There's also factors of how actions are not only subjected from the past seeping to the present but also outside current events factor into it. Author-nim gave an example of how Olga is different because of Ines, so I believe it's to say Carcel acts different based on the same factor, Ines.

    As for things about Carcel in different lifetimes, author-nim said Carcel in the 1st lifetime had the darkest personality because of Ines pushing him away all the time. Carcel in the 4th lifetime grew up the least affected from suffering compared to 1st lifetime but he did found Ines scary for forcing him into an unwanted marriage. As for Ines, she grew up knowing her single love and even held onto wanting to die together in the 1st lifetime but in the 4th lifetime, her rejection towards him was the complete opposite of herself in 1st lifetime because of her defense mechanism triggered from previous lifetimes. The thing is that her heart started to love him before she can admit to it, so she was childishly acting against it and it eventually led her to realize she made a mistake. By then, she gave up even denying it.