Hahahaha making excuses for sangwoo... how did the world end up like this??
I acknowledge that Sangwoo's past has made him that way but I don't think that's a good excuse for his actions. Can't change the things of his past but his current actions are of his own free will. His past does not excuse the people he's killed or the harm he's caused Bum. I like Sangwoo as a character in the story but he's truely an asshole.
Yeah ok, I have absolutely not pity for him. I was abused as a child, but I don't go murdering people. In fact, I learnt from my experiences and try to do the very opposite that my father did. Making sure I don't hurt a single person is my ultimate goal. Sure, PTSD affects him and me alike and definitely influences the kind of people we become, but Sangwoo is a psychopath with no empathy. I don't care if he's fictional. His personality, mentality, experiences and crimes are all real.
A lot of people get abused by their parents, beaten up, emotionally and physically abused. But very few turn out to be kidnappers, murderers and psychos. I recommend reading the second chapter to refreshen your memory, where he kills the poor girl in cool blood only after torturing her for some time.
Just because this is also an yaoi, doesn't mean you should just forgive Sangwoo cause he's the "cute seme" or whatever. He's a mentally deranged monster, most likely is a sociopath as well, that lacks conscience. That's how he could kill so many people, just read the page where his washing machine is full of women's clothes, his former victims.
He must have killed many women to have so many female clothes.
I'm really afraid for the cop, he's my favorite character now. I'm rooting for him to stay alive and solve this case and make Sangwoo pay for what he's done.
I dislike that Bum's has stockholm syndrome but I was really proud of him when he tried to escape.
And for people that say "it's fiction, it's not real", it's not about something being real or not, it's about morals. And liking or even rooting for a remorseless killer that enjoys torturing his victims shows that you either really like that kinda disturbing shit cause "it's just fiction" or don't like that disturbing shit but what does it matter? As long as the seme is cute and hot, right?
Now try to imagine if he were a middle aged fat man? Not so ready to defend him, eh?
Please fujioshis, don't be blinded by every cute seme. There are cute semes that don't kill people, how about liking those?
A lot of people get abused by their parents, beaten up, emotionally and physically abused. But very few turn out to be kidnappers, murderers and psychos. I recommend reading the second chapter to refreshen your memory, where he kills the poor girl in cold blood only after torturing her for some time.
Just because this is also an yaoi, doesn't mean you should just forgive Sangwoo cause he's the "cute seme" or whatever. He's a mentally deranged monster, most likely is a sociopath as well, that lacks conscience. That's how he could kill so many people, just read the page where his washing machine is full of women's clothes, his former victims.
He must have killed many women to have so many female clothes.
I'm really afraid for the cop, he's my favorite character now. I'm rooting for him to stay alive and solve this case and make Sangwoo pay for what he's done.
I dislike that Bum's has stockholm syndrome but I was really proud of him when he tried to escape.
And for people that say "it's fiction, it's not real", it's not about something being real or not, it's about morals. And liking or even rooting for a remorseless killer that enjoys torturing his victims shows that you either really like that kinda disturbing shit cause "it's just fiction" or don't like that disturbing shit but what does it matter? As long as the seme is cute and hot, right?
Now try to imagine if he were a middle aged fat man? Not so ready to defend him, eh?
Please fujioshis, don't be blinded by every cute seme. There are cute semes that don't kill people, how about liking those?
It closely mimics real life cases. The only diff is he's fictionally hot. Which alarms other fans of what fans at "forgiving" in the name of "hotness". Don't use fiction as an excuse. Fact check what real life mindset of oneself that is allowing certain justifications
Ya guys are taking this WAY too seriously, it IS a psychological horror, after all. Its just meant to evoke the reaction of "oh wow this is fucked up". Whether somebody roots for the "good" or "bad" side, has really nothing to do with a person's morals or such... Personally, I like Sangwoo because he's just so..... Gone. He's so manipulative and deranged it's like he's the shell of a person just waiting to crumble... Its like an accident waiting to happen, I just cant stop looking at him lol
I completely agrees with you that a character's past explains but does not excuse his actions. My reading of the story is much like yours, and I am sure morals influence my reactions. But I disagree that people's attitudes of fantasies about fiction or different interpretations of fiction are necessarily related to real life morals.
If we are talking about your take on the character, I'm with you 100%. If we are discussing whether the past excuses the present, I also agree. It does not. I blame Sangwoo for his acts (and Bum for his).
But I think it''s okay for people to like, ship, or romanticize bad and immoral characters in fiction if they want to do so. And because it's fiction, it is okay to like a hot character more than an ugly one, if someone wants to. I know---it seems terrible unfair, but it is make believe.
I think it would be rare for someone who is not asexual to never have had a fantasy about someone who is good looking that they would not have had about someone middle-aged and less physically fit.
How can people can ship evil characters? Well, there are probably different reasons. Sangwoo isn't my personal type, but I do like evil characters such as Loki. A large part of it is that I think Loki is hot--and that the fictional evil he does makes him exciting to me, even though I know it's bad. So, sometimes, people can just like evil when it's just pretend.
We all make the story into what we want it to be in our heads to some extent--more so if we create additional fantasies based on the story. It doesn't change what the story is for other people. We can all enjoy it in different ways.
Ikr. I don't understand the overreaction and unproven fears that this reflects a readers real self and set of morals. There are plenty of popular bad characters that are loved in the fiction fandom (Dexter, Hannible, Darth Vader, Loki, etc. who are loved not because they are hot, but because of the complexity in their character that reflects a darker side of human nature. Characters that can evoke emotions in a reader and be interpreted in many different ways.
It's very close minded and shallow to think Sangwoo is liked simply because he's hot. Some may like him for that but there are plenty others who like him for other reasons.
I think the author purposely made his character to be disliked (hate is such a strong word boi) by the readers..and she/he did a great job! because me and tons of people don't like sangwoo.. I'd put him in jail if I could for sure, like all he's done is so wrong... though I do wonder how some ppl love him..but ppl is allowed to like whatever they want to.. so meh I don't really care abt them..
Close minded much?
Like a wise man once said, to love someone likeable is easy, the true challenge is in finding something to love in someone everybody else hates lmao
I like Sangwoo because he's broken and mad, and only knows what he's doing half of the time, but he goes with it anyways lol Like, honestly? Sangwoo is who keeps this plot going, if we didnt have such a wicked character as him terrorizing poor Bum, this story wouldn't be half as interesting.
But if y'all still like Sangwoo after reading Chapter 15 I'm done with this goddamn world. This is not love. This is manipulation, abuse, and torture, with a big sprinkle of stockholm syndrome.