I know I'm jumping the gun from that tiny excerpt but

Eparthenoi March 3, 2024 11:19 am

I swear to god, if his backstory is "I'm mean because I used to be poor :(" I will have a fit. I grew up on a literal mission, then moved to what could be described as a ghetto by Australian standards. Fortunately my mum was able to get us out, but I can count beyond both my hands the amount of times I'd go, "hey what happened to so and so" and it turns out that they would either be dead or in prison. There was a lot of violence and someone was getting stabbed, shot, or overdosing every other day. I went through some pretty awful stuff that doesn't need to be disclosed on mangago of all places, but guess what! I'm not a bad person! Shocker I know. But it makes my eye visibly twitch when I read stories like this and almost every time the excuses that get shit out for their bad behaviour are "my dad hit me and I was poor" like?????

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    Kessss March 3, 2024 11:24 am

    umm kudos to you for not being negative but.. you do realise different people react differently to trauma.. you can't hold everyone to the same standards since you know, humans are inherently different. Plus, genetics play a huge factor and having shitty parents can/have resulted in kids with shit personalities.

    Mistress March 3, 2024 11:26 am

    I'm sorry but like you are so fucking right!! I had it rough growing up too and I'm not a fucking bad person! I wouldn't give someone else shit because I grew up poor!
    That better not be the backstory!!! It better be something strong enough to make me 'understand' at least why he's so shitty

    BoxyTrash March 3, 2024 11:42 am
    umm kudos to you for not being negative but.. you do realise different people react differently to trauma.. you can't hold everyone to the same standards since you know, humans are inherently different. Plus, g... Kessss

    That's true but so many stories still don't handle it well and use their traumatic backstory as an excuse to all their shitty actions and how they were fixed into a better person by the romantic interest which fuck no
    Their trauma is supposed to explain their character and why they are the way they are, it's not supposed to immediatly excuse and "forgive and forget" every bad thing they did (in case they are a bad person due to the trauma) which I honestly feel atp Jinx might do

    Melantha March 3, 2024 11:47 am

    You're right 100%. Don't listen to this "all people are different, let's accept and embrace our differences". If a person acts good they are good, if they act bad they're bad, no matter what their circumstances are. Just be a normal human being which is possible to do even with traumas, disorders, etc. Make good choices and act decent.
    This rant says more about me but I'm done with tolerance and inclusivity which are overused and abused.

    Eparthenoi March 3, 2024 12:01 pm
    umm kudos to you for not being negative but.. you do realise different people react differently to trauma.. you can't hold everyone to the same standards since you know, humans are inherently different. Plus, g... Kessss

    I agree with that and im aware but at the same time it's such a fucking cop-out lmfao. It might explain the behaviour Jaekyung shows, but as BoxyTrash said, that is not a reason for "forgive and forget". People handle trauma in different ways yes, but people do not sexually assault, financially abuse, or whatever else Jaekyung has done, because they grew up with a shit childhood. People in the real world do those things because they think they're entitled to it (bad upbringing or not) characters in fiction do these things because of lazy writing. My original comment wasn't supposed to be a bragging moment, but I'm sick and tired of the narrative that people who come from poor backgrounds are supposed to just be forgiven for their previous actions because it makes for a "compelling backstory". It isn't. It just reads to me like these characters feel owed something just because they've had it rough. So do other people, but they don't use their shitty upbringing as an excuse to be scum of the earth.

    Eparthenoi March 3, 2024 12:08 pm
    You're right 100%. Don't listen to this "all people are different, let's accept and embrace our differences". If a person acts good they are good, if they act bad they're bad, no matter what their circumstances... Melantha

    Completely agree. I understand when it's a darker story where it's clear that everyone sucks and there's no real happy ending going on, but when there's an obvious setup for a redemption arc, why go to these extremes? There's no amount of trauma in the world that excuses behaviour like that, you are still a bad person, be it fiction or irl

    Kessss March 3, 2024 1:05 pm
    You're right 100%. Don't listen to this "all people are different, let's accept and embrace our differences". If a person acts good they are good, if they act bad they're bad, no matter what their circumstances... Melantha

    you're blatantly ignoring how trauma and mental disorders affect someone and just think it's something that's easily overcome?

    Kessss March 3, 2024 1:13 pm
    I agree with that and im aware but at the same time it's such a fucking cop-out lmfao. It might explain the behaviour Jaekyung shows, but as BoxyTrash said, that is not a reason for "forgive and forget". People... Eparthenoi

    I'm not saying that Jaekyung should be forgiven for it. He should grovel and suffer of course. but you can't just discredit how someone's past shapes their personality and their future. How do you know people in the real world do it because they're *entitled* to it? Jesus, how can you be so ignorant??

    Plus there's no indication of the so called forgive and forget arc in Jinx as you are assuming atm.

    My point is, people irl are indeed affected by their pasts and shitty childhood and end up doing messed up shit.

    Moreover Jaekyung is an mma fighter. like almost 80% of all MMA pros are mentally unstable irl.. usually because of, *surprise* childhood trauma.

    Melantha March 3, 2024 5:44 pm
    you're blatantly ignoring how trauma and mental disorders affect someone and just think it's something that's easily overcome? Kessss

    No, not easily. But having trauma and it being hard to overcome is not an excuse either.

    Eparthenoi March 3, 2024 11:51 pm
    I'm not saying that Jaekyung should be forgiven for it. He should grovel and suffer of course. but you can't just discredit how someone's past shapes their personality and their future. How do you know people i... Kessss

    Im sorry but calling me ignorant because I'm saying childhood trauma isn't an excuse to be a horrible person is absolutely insane. I am very aware of how trauma affects people, and as I have been saying before, you *do not* sexually assault people because of childhood trauma. It absolutely is a sense of entitlement. You can have trauma and also be a bad person, why is this upsetting you so much dawg? Trauma is not a free pass and I'm sorry, but it doesn't explain people's shitty behaviour, ESPECIALLY when A) they're a grown ass adult and B) have as much money as Jaekyung does to get the resources needed for therapy, medication, etc etc.
    As for the forgive and forget, it's incredibly obvious that that's where it's going to head as Jaekyung is the main love interest. I'm sure he's going to end up groveling and crying and apologising or whatever, but that doesn't suddenly make the shit Jaekyungs done just disappear because he cried and said sorry and is going to be sad for a few chapters.