Agreed. Hazuki was too much this time
Let’s be understanding of both sides tho. I feel as if Hazuki’s reaction is quite normal. Rn he’s in a state of worry about the relationship he has with his children ultimately leading to doubt in the relationship with Naoto. He’s scared and worried especially since the children, to him, seem to have better relationships with other people. It’s not too much at all and is quite a normal reaction. I think we should just hope the situation gets fix without too much trouble. Emotions aren’t easily controlled especially when it comes to the people we hold dear.
And that’s valid but it’s hard to say he didn’t overreact and said unnecessary shit. He was acting childish but Naoto didn’t have to say that so both are in the wrong but I’m leaning more towards Hazuki since he brought up SA and just too possessive.
And Naoto should’ve also just told him it’s a personal conversation and that he was just giving the dude a love advice and the dude already has someone he likes.
I'm sorry but I disagree. I don't think Naoto's actually did anything to make hazuki suspicious of him, he got insecure on his own and dumped it all on naoto. And i can understand if we say that hazuki is way too young to be so mature about his emotions but from my pov there's no "both sides are wrong" here. Hazuki overstepped by not trusting his partner and victim-blaming him all in one go, all Naoto did was react.
Yeah I also don’t think Naoto did, he didn’t intend for any of this, it’s more of Hazuki’s issue. A him problem. Naoto can be a bit defenseless but he’s not dumb and he’s been progressing. I think both sides are wrong but only because Naoto called him childish for expressing his insecurity/feelings, both should talk it out especially when a partner is feeling insecure, not insulting them. And then they argued. But Hazuki is more wrong because he brought up SA which is totally unnecessary and acts as if MC is weak, so I guess he did deserve to be called childish. Just wished they calmly talked it out, but I’m sure this will be resolved soon.
Hazuki is just too possessive. And Naoto should’ve just said he have personal advice to the beta friend, instead of shutting him off. Just to clear the air, it would’ve been best for Naoto to be specific but also not revealing what they discussed cause beta dude wanted it private.
And I also feel like this is a bit OOC for Hazuki, perhaps author wanted to create conflict sigh
i mean, i can see some build up in the previous volumes, hazuki displays hmmm alpha-ish tendencies of possessiveness a couple times (god i never thought I'd be discussing abo so seriously lol) and since hazuki and naoto are surprisingly communicative i was expecting the author to adress the elephant in the room at one point or another
i don't know... naoto says very explicitly that he was just talking to the beta dude (forgot his name) and giving him some advice, hazuki ignores that and presses naoto on for something that he supposes is or will eventually become a love confession from the guy because he already has doubts about naoto's abilities to defend himself. he needs naoto's constant reassurance that he'll
be number one otherwise he gets insecure and by the looks of it, irrational. that's not healthy and tbh it's also a pretty childish thing to do, like when kids get jealous over their friends playing with other children without them and snap in a fit of jealousy by usually throwing a tantrum.
That’s why I’m saying I’m leaning more towards Hazuki being the one at fault. Unfortunately immaturity don’t stop at age 25, he’s only 23 currently, but he shouldn’t be this childish regardless.
No yea I get it, I wasn’t saying Hazuki didn’t overact he def did, I was just saying it’s quite a regular reaction or even more so tame for someone who feels as if he’s losing a grip on his family. I mean do we not tend to say hurtful things we end up regretting when upset. I’m not saying Hazuki is right I’m saying don’t paint him to be a bad guy when his reaction is normal and relatable to those who have similar insecurities.
We as the viewers will alway say there is a better way but obviously everyone is different and everyone makes mistakes. I said my comment not to change anyone’s mind or take any sides. I just thought it was too much painting of villainy when it’s just a character in their emotional growth stage learning to do better with their family. He did a not so good thing but that doesn’t make him a bad guy and it’s not the type of story where we should feel the need to “take sides” we’re watching the characters learn and grow.
But no one painted him as the bad guy. I didn't say "hazuki sucks" or whatever my point is not about villains or shit like that, is about Hazuki overstepping a serious boundary and using someone's traumatic experience as a weapon against them because of petty jealousy. That's a shitty thing to do, period. I didn't say he's a shitty person himself. If anything, my comment is not even in response to the manga itself but the overall reaction of people calling Naoto "too trusting" and "manipulative" just because he didn't explain in minutiae what he was talking to that guy when it really wasn't that deep in the first place. I understand what you're saying but that has absolutely nothing to do with my og comment.
… I’m sorry? 1stly it may be because of the phrasing or the fact you the message you’re replying to wasn’t for you but for the person I replied to but the micro aggression I’m getting is completely unnecessary. Did I say the owner of this thread is taking sides? No, my comment to you was to try to be understanding of both sides, the continue convo was no longer towards you afterwards as I didn’t see you reply to my comment. So yes the comment you replied to has nothing to do with your og comment cause it was no longer for you but for the person who replied to my comment directly. I don’t know why you felt the need to rude but please enjoy the rest of your day ig and be mindful of the reply system for that can tell you a lot about where a discussion is going and if there was anything for you there
Couldn't agree more
it's not just because they're partners that hazuki is entitled to be in every crook and cranny of naoto's life, he's allowed to keep secrets and he's allowed to have other people than hazuki and the children as priority. Also naoto is not "too trustful" he's a kind and gentle person who got over what happened to him and chose to still see good in people, because he knows the reason he was raped wasn't because of something as fickle as being "too trusting" and if he ever came to be raped again that wouldn't be the reason either, what happened to him is the result of a society based on violent prejudices and of people's own internal malicious intent.