My opinion on jinx I guess

Ray February 25, 2024 7:45 am

The only thing I don’t understand about the people hating on this yaoi is that abusive relationships like this exist in real life, especially in Korea, not everything is happy or nontoxic. And Dan made an agreement with jaekyung in the beginning giving him CONSENT, for all of you talking about rape. Honestly it’s not even as bad as you are saying it is like there is soooo much that could be worse. I do agree about how barely anything has happened but I do think that something is coming soon. Honestly the appeal of this story for me is that he isn’t happy right away and that he is experiencing and feeling all these things that so many people go through. I feel like what makes a lot of people dislike jaekyung in general is because we don’t know why he is the way he is. We get all this background for Dan making us relate or feel bad for him but when it comes to jaekyung we get nothing. I think that lack of information plays a big part on the story and was most likely done on purpose. It’s just that without seeing the human side of jaekyung it’s hard to see him as such. There is obviously some history that will be revealed at some point we just have to wait.

Responses
    毛明悦 February 25, 2024 7:05 pm

    "I have my account set to private due to my friends being harassed. There are rumors spread by others on here that is not true.

    I have two accounts. This is my second one and I can't log in to my first one that was created in 2020.

    I don't share my opinions often. I share facts, research, and the actual stories.

    I deserve to be treated with respect, kindness, and good-faith engagement."

    Just say you can't handle the truth. You clearly love to have stupid-ass opinions, but as soon as people disagree you want to act like you're being attacked. I don't like minors reading explicit content but I hoping that you're young so you have an excuse to be this dumb.

    Empowered Guardian February 25, 2024 8:10 pm

    Rage baiting gaslighting.
    I am not the facts I post. Facts are not opinions. Attacking someone is not a disagreement. “I hope that you’re young so you have an excuse to be this dumb”

    That is an ad hominem. It means you have no argument and have to attack someone. You have lost. Thanks for sharing your lost with me. You are definitely talking about yourself and others like you.

    Empowered Guardian February 25, 2024 8:20 pm
    Everyone enterprets their message differently i guess, but that was how i see it. It's like saying one cant react like that because others have it worse. Also you should try reading potn and have your own judge... [黄] ₙ ₑ ₖ ₒ

    My blunt honestly in my profile was gaslight for a person attack. People are being sickening here.
    But reading a message to make it an attack is not a misinterpretation.

    Yes you are right people do interpret messages, stories, and situations differently. We all have different experiences, backgrounds and perspectives. There can be thousands way to interpret something but what matters is what they intended. It is best to ask instead of attacking and assuming things.


    I can understand why you think that but I don’t think that is what he meant.
    He just doesn’t understand why Jaekyung is getting more hate than he deserves for what I get. He deserves hate. But people should be allowed to ask questions or be neutral without being attacked.

    I willl try to read it soon. My hands are full with taking care of my dad. My dad is not doing well. He was diagnosed with stomach cancer last month. We went for a visit to the surgeon Wednesday for the surgery planned for 3 months. They admitted him that day. They wanted to do the surgery Monday but after some test they did the surgery Friday. Now he is losing blood and can’t keep his oxygen up. He is a hot mess. I don’t think I can stay focused on a story. -.-; I will let you know what I think when I read it.

    levipleasecallmeback February 25, 2024 9:29 pm

    oh my god what the fuck are you doing here empowered. in case yall don’t remember this person spams the jinx comment section with their one sided drama and constantly harass other users who say jae is a rapist. they too believe dan consents to everything and jae can do no wrong

    not even worth engaging with that thing. his arguments don’t even make sense bro calls the rape that happens “rough sex” and dan WANTS it??? bro is the yap terrorist

    levipleasecallmeback February 25, 2024 9:34 pm
    "I have my account set to private due to my friends being harassed. There are rumors spread by others on here that is not true. I have two accounts. This is my second one and I can't log in to my first one tha... 毛明悦

    they do this every time. when you reply to them logically or with evidence they say you’re attacking, cyberbullying, or trolling them. they have the dumbest takes about this story

    don’t bother trying to reason with this smooth brain mf who refuses to define rape as rape. idk why they excuse jaes behavior so badly

    Empowered Guardian February 25, 2024 10:07 pm

    Levi is gaslighting. I am not the trolls that are impersonating me and spamming the section. I comment like Levi does. If I spam. she spams. If i harass, she harass. Wait she harasses us, we don't harass her.

    " they too believe dan consents to everything and jae can do no wrong"

    FALSE!! What disgusting gaslighting. My "arguments" are the truth with facts and the actual story that crushes your hateful disgusting opinions. You are the one being dumb and have a dumb take on this story.
    I define rape as rape. i define sexual assault as SA. I define Sexual coercion as Sexual coercion. I am educated to know the difference. I know the story. I will not define Sexual assault, Sexual assault, or coercion as rape when it is not. Hey Levi, did Jaekyung get raped in chapter 2. He as SAed.

    I am here because someone expressed an opinion and haters attacked that person.
    Levi I want it where everyone can express their opinions freely, You want a fascist place where you degrade, lie, and gaslight others. You are being disgusting and toxic. It is disgusting how fascist you can be and try to force your opinion on others.
    No matter how many times you gaslight it will not make it true. I never defended Jaekyung. I never excused his behavior. I have always called it out. like I call out your bad behavior. You are the villain here. You only give opinions and never evidence or facts like we do. You have never had a logical conversation with us. You just rage-bait and troll. How you have been treating us is not acceptable and never justifiable. You are worse than Jaekyung because he is fake and we are real. You are trying us like shit, lying about us, gaslighting us because we have a different opinion than you. That opinion is a fact and better aligns with the story. Years later you will regret acting like this. You already know we are right. It is not hard to admit you were wrong but you keep digging that hole with more lies. Stop being toxic and gaslighting. Why do I bother to see the good in you? I know there is good and bad in everyone but is there any good with you or are you just going to keep being a fake person? Your gaslighting doesn't define me. It defines you. You are threatened by the truth I post.

    I hope for the day you reply to us logically or with evidence as that would be a good conversation. You never tried. You want to be right and willfully ignorant.

    However, it is us who replies with logic and evidence but we get immature gaslighting from the ones who can't admit they are wrong.
    When people are attacking, cyberbullying and trolling we will say it is attacking, cyberbullying, and trolling.
    That was childish.
    I wished Levi would stop being a drama rage-bait queen and start having those logical conversations with evidence with us. I wished Levi was a good person. I know she can be better than this.

    Empowered Guardian February 25, 2024 10:31 pm

    https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/15421897/

    I would like to point out that, Neko and I can talk.

    I can talk to Mikaela who says this is rape and Jaekyung is a rapist.
    One of the reasons I share this is not rape is to help enlighten others.
    But the trolls and the like turns it into a pov vs pov.
    It has never been a pov vs pov.

    It is forcing and attacking others with a pov who thinks differently. Ray was ganged up here. When they claim it is rape, they are rarely ganged up on. They are threathen and show in their personal attacks on others. Levi did many personal attacks on my friends and I. It was gross.

    Bottom line:
    Mikaela can think it is rape. Ray can think it is sexual assault and blah. Tom can see nothing wrong as Levi and other trolls have claimed to the ones that see Sexual assault. Rape is sexual assault. My POV and Levi's POV are so similar. everything she said about me, she is saying about herself too.

    Levi can think it is rape. But what is wrong is attacking other people and forcing that opinion on other people. IF you look Levi is trying to be right in her opinion she would gaslight, lie, degrade me, and try to make me wrong. It is not me. I posted facts and the actual story. Levi can't make that wrong. If that don't make sense to Levi, she needs not be on the internet.

    But everything Levi has been doing and saying shows she knows she is wrong and don't want to admit it.
    When I post to a new person to enlighten them. It is not about changing their opinions. I don't want Levi to change her opinions. I want her to stop attacking and making others wrong who have a different opinion. I am going to stand with the actual story and definitions. The definition of rape does not fit. Rape has no choice. Dan had choices and after he said no or stop he gave the green flag again. Read the story as it is and you will see it is not rape.
    You can think it is rape. I am not saying and look uneducated or stupid as Levi would do. I know it is not rape by the truth.
    My comments go against Levi's claims. Each time she does that it shows she was threatened by the truth. I claim it is sexual assault, sexual coercion, and abuse but Levi says that is seeing nothing wrong. That is nonsense. This is nonsense to claim I am justifying or excusing Jaekyung's behavior because that is far from my comments but It shows Levi knows she is wrong and does not want to admit it. I am not her punch bag or her doormat. I simply told the truth. She can get over it. What does she get from gaslighting? What does she get from lying? Nothing. She will never grow into the person she is meant to be if she keeps doing this immature Bullshit.

    Empowered Guardian February 25, 2024 10:32 pm

    I forgot to take my schizophrenia meds pls forgive my earlier comments (all above one)

    Empowered Guardian February 25, 2024 10:33 pm
    "I have my account set to private due to my friends being harassed. There are rumors spread by others on here that is not true. I have two accounts. This is my second one and I can't log in to my first one tha... 毛明悦

    STOP!!! THAT IS THE TROLL!!! THAT IS NOT ME!!! I AM A RAPE APOLOGIST!!!

    Empowered Guardian February 25, 2024 10:36 pm

    Warning above is troll. They have been harassing me and my friends for 6 months now. I am the real one. i think jaekyung will leave dan for me,, thats why i ride his imaginary dick

    Empowered Guardian February 25, 2024 10:45 pm

    毛明悦
    I post the truth and definitions. I don't post my opinions. Now you know why the trolls and people like you don't like my friends and me. We call out your bad behavior to have a good conversation with you. They don't like the truth and especially when it shows their opinions are wrong or their behavior is wrong. It has nothing about disagreeing with me as the person is disagreeing with the truth. If I correct you that Dan is 29 which is said twice, it is not my opinion but I can't stop you from attacking with ad hominems being wrong in what you claimed. If you think as hominems are disagreements that is stupid. I have been attacked, defamed, and more. That is from people like you disagreeing with the facts and actual story I post. If I don't post my opinions how do you know you are disagree with me? Or what my views are? Like you, I may not read this story. I don't think you have the right to an opinion here due to not reading the story.

    Calling someone out isn't meant to harm someone–it's meant to point out where someone went wrong in hopes of them correcting themself and apologizing. Being called out isn't the same thing as being attacked. Being attacked is a malicious intent to hurt

    Levi has never called us out, She has attacked with the malicious intent to hurt. You have attacked with the malicious intent to hurt. I have called you both out.
    It is for you to stop the bad behaviors and have civil conversations on here.

    I am concerned about the toxic behavior that ruins this page and site. It is important that this should be a fun and positive space for everyone to enjoy their interests but it is not due to many hateful people. They will misunderstand positive space, that does not always being positive, it has nothing to do with comments or opinions.

    You as part of the fandom don't have a positive or safe space to share your comments without them attacking. They can share their hate and spew their hate without anyone commenting against them. And you don't have to be part of the fandom, you can hate this story but have a different opinion from the hive mind and be attacked. That person hated JK and the story and they forced her into a position of loving both so they could just attack her.
    This has been on since the comments came back. They camp out here just to attack people different from them and people from the fandom. All opinions should be welcome. Hateful comments attacking people are not opinions. And people who are overly criticizing and attacking the story or characters are not opinions.

    Empowered Guardian February 25, 2024 10:47 pm

    Empowered Guardian February 25, 2024 10:32 pm
    I forgot to take my schizophrenia meds pls forgive my earlier comments (all above one) and two comments after.

    That is a troll impersonating me and not me.. link to their account.
    https://www.mangago.zone/home/people/3690382/home/


    Link to my account
    https://www.mangago.zone/home/people/3526299/home/

    Empowered Guardian February 25, 2024 10:48 pm

    Warning! Above is troll. He liked typing long messages bc he thinks I care LMFAAOOOO.

    Empowered Guardian February 25, 2024 10:54 pm

    毛明悦
    Do you still want to claim "Just say you can't handle the truth. You clearly love to have stupid-ass opinions, but as soon as people disagree you want to act like you're being attacked. I don't like minors reading explicit content but I hoping that you're young so you have an excuse to be this dumb."

    When I posted the truth? You have evidence in front of you. People like you can't handle the truth they created accounts to impersonate me.

    This was my old user name and profile pic that a troll is impersonating https://www.mangago.zone/home/people/3686909/home/

    This is a troll impersonating one of my friends because they can't handle the truth.
    https://www.mangago.zone/home/people/3687008/home/

    They are threatened and disagree with the truth that they attack me and try to defame me. Levi is supporting them and blames me for them. But when she is impersonated for a few hours she goes ballistic.

    if they have not changed it, I think there are two more impersonating me.
    It is them disagreeing with the facts they are attacking like idiots.

    Empowered Guardian February 25, 2024 11:03 pm
    Everyone enterprets their message differently i guess, but that was how i see it. It's like saying one cant react like that because others have it worse. Also you should try reading potn and have your own judge... [黄] ₙ ₑ ₖ ₒ

    I think we should go to DM...... Or make sure you respond to me. There are like 3 or 4 impersonating me. One for Tm and One Tig. You know who Tig is right?
    He is back. He did not want to return with his other new account. He made a new one.

    Empowered Guardian February 25, 2024 11:06 pm

    I am 40 and have a husband. I like talking to little girls in DMs when I can't win them over in public.

    Ray February 26, 2024 3:19 am
    Everyone enterprets their message differently i guess, but that was how i see it. It's like saying one cant react like that because others have it worse. Also you should try reading potn and have your own judge... [黄] ₙ ₑ ₖ ₒ

    Hey they were right about what I was trying to convey with my comment. I didn’t mean for it to sound like I was defending him and I don’t agree with his behavior at all. Also I don’t really even like potn I just liked that panel and it’s just been my profile pic for like ever. I’ve been meaning to change it to something that I’m more interested in I just keep forgetting. I feel like if I change it now people are going to get mad at me and say something like “they changed it because we called them out” which isn’t it but I think I’m going to change it anyway because that’s want I want to do. Anyway sorry for rambling I just wanted to let you know. P.s. Just because I read part of potn doesn’t mean I agree with everything that happens in the story. Like I said I just liked that one panel.

    Ray February 26, 2024 3:31 am
    Everyone enterprets their message differently i guess, but that was how i see it. It's like saying one cant react like that because others have it worse. Also you should try reading potn and have your own judge... [黄] ₙ ₑ ₖ ₒ

    One more thing sorry. What I meant with my comment about how there is worse out there I just mean everyone is acting like he is the worst person ever and I am definitely not saying you can’t have a strong reaction to his actions or that his actions should be excused, I draw the line when people start saying he should kill himself or them just being plain violent. It just doesn’t sit right with me. I should have worded it better, I just wasn’t thinking about how some people would perceive it.

    Ray February 26, 2024 3:38 am
    I am 40 and have a husband. I like talking to little girls in DMs when I can't win them over in public. Empowered Guardian

    What in the actual hell is wrong with you.

    Ray February 26, 2024 4:04 am
    gonna have to disagree with you on your point about dan’s consent and jae not being a rapist. dan made an agreement because he didn’t have a choice and couldn’t afford to juggle taking care of himself and... levipleasecallmeback

    When did I ever say that I approved of jaekyungs actions? I didnt. Not once. If something I said came across that way it wasn’t my intention. About the whole contract thing, Dan was never forced into it, he declined the first time and CHOSE to accept later on his OWN terms. He could have walked away, and he still can. When I say there is way worse out there, I mean people act like he is the devil. I draw the line when people say that he should kill himself or when they are just plain violent. That is inexcusable behavior and does not sit right with me. That is what I mean. Please don’t assume the meaning of what I say based on your interpretation. I appreciate other opinions I don’t appreciate people accusing me of being something I’m not or that because I am not extremely hateful towards jaekyung, you think I approve of SA and rape.