I know we're getting the build up for Jae's backstory, and break from him being a complete...

Wolfi February 13, 2024 10:25 am

I know we're getting the build up for Jae's backstory, and break from him being a complete d* head but girl....47 chapters straight this man has done nothing but disrespect Dan. It makes my head hurt reading this at times. I'm also very tired of the Stockholm syndrome these writers have like wtf. That's not cute(???) Can we not????

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    Toffnokk February 13, 2024 10:35 am

    This isn't Stockholm Syndrom tough.

    Izzie February 13, 2024 10:44 am
    This isn't Stockholm Syndrom tough. Toffnokk

    It is Stockholm syndrome.
    Definition: the psychological condition of a victim who identifies with and empathizes with their captor or

    Kirari~☆ February 13, 2024 10:55 am
    It is Stockholm syndrome. Definition: the psychological condition of a victim who identifies with and empathizes with their captor or Izzie

    Dan fell for Jaekyung because he helped him out several times, not because he abducted him or forced himself on him and locked him up. So your definition is not defining here ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    Izzie February 13, 2024 11:38 am
    Dan fell for Jaekyung because he helped him out several times, not because he abducted him or forced himself on him and locked him up. So your definition is not defining here ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ Kirari~☆

    Looks like mangago deleted the last word - abuser. Stockholm syndrome can also be between an abuser and an abused victim

    Kirari~☆ February 13, 2024 1:30 pm
    Looks like mangago deleted the last word - abuser. Stockholm syndrome can also be between an abuser and an abused victim Izzie

    Still, there's too much going on between Dan and Jae for it to be downgraded to the level of an abused and abuser relationship. Dan is just too kind hearted to the point of disregarding Jae's bad attitude in favor of all his other qualities that made Dan fall for him.

    Empowered Guardian February 13, 2024 1:31 pm
    This isn't Stockholm Syndrom tough. Toffnokk

    Right it is not Stockholm Syndrome.

    Empowered Guardian February 13, 2024 1:34 pm

    From my friend.
    As we know, Stockholm Syndrome is a coping mechanism to a captive or abusive situation. People develop positive feelings toward their captors or abusers over time. This condition applies to situations including child abuse, coach-athlete abuse, relationship abuse and sex trafficking

    This isn’t the right type of relationship abuse and if you look at psychological causes, signs and symptoms this story doesn’t fit.

    https://www.choosingtherapy.com/stockholm-syndrome/#:~:text=Some%20of%20the%20more%20common,documented%20in%20the%20research%20include%3A&text=Feeling%20closely%20bonded%20or%20attached,of%20the%20captor%20or%20abuser

    It gives you 5 Examples of Stockholm Syndrome. None are close. 4 is the Stockholm syndrome abusive relationship. The abuse that causes Stockholm Syndrome isn’t there and there many elements that doesn’t allow to develop to Stockholm syndrome.
    The original Beauty and the Beast is Stockholm Syndrome but the Disney’s version isn’t. https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1460&context=criterion#:~:text=The%20original%20Beauty%20of%20Beauty,syndrome%20have%20all%20but%20vanished.


    It can’t and won’t be Stockholm Syndrome.

    Izzie February 13, 2024 2:09 pm
    Still, there's too much going on between Dan and Jae for it to be downgraded to the level of an abused and abuser relationship. Dan is just too kind hearted to the point of disregarding Jae's bad attitude in fa... Kirari~☆

    There isn't really that much going on between JJK and Dan. It's a sexual relationship where monetary exchange is involved. JJK isn't the worst bl love interest but he isn't a good person or frankly a civilized person either. Dan hated the sex uhm that's rape what happened in the first two chapters so tell why it's not an abuser- abused relationship. If rape isn't a pivotal point along with other violent acts like JJK using that pink dildo thing, smashing glass cup in sheer anger then what is being shown here ?? Dan is definitely a pushover emotionally but that doesn't mean that readers reading it are that too and can't detect abuse when it's being shoved down their throats for many chapters.

    Empowered Guardian February 13, 2024 2:21 pm
    There isn't really that much going on between JJK and Dan. It's a sexual relationship where monetary exchange is involved. JJK isn't the worst bl love interest but he isn't a good person or frankly a civilized ... Izzie

    Izzie, dear you can hate sex and it not be rape. We can have a conversation and maybe you can tell where you think it is Jinx is rape? Then I will explain why it is sexual assault, sexual coercion and abuse but not rape through the actual story and definitions.

    Jinx is non-sex but it is not rape. I do have a post of many paragraphs explaining these terms. You can see this as rape but the actual story tells a different story. What I will share is not an opinion.
    Any account that comes in after trying to defame me is a troll. They made like 6 accounts to impersonate my friends and me because they care about the facts I post. They attack me without listening. I call them out and they get offended when they should be looking at their actions that called me to call them out. If they were civil they would not hate or care about me to get to extreme measures. I have caring fans.
    I can talk to in DM without inference.

    Empowered Guardian February 13, 2024 2:27 pm
    Izzie, dear you can hate sex and it not be rape. We can have a conversation and maybe you can tell where you think it is Jinx is rape? Then I will explain why it is sexual assault, sexual coercion and abuse bu... Empowered Guardian

    *I call them out and they get offended when they should be looking at their actions that made me call them out.

    Izzie February 13, 2024 2:30 pm
    Izzie, dear you can hate sex and it not be rape. We can have a conversation and maybe you can tell where you think it is Jinx is rape? Then I will explain why it is sexual assault, sexual coercion and abuse bu... Empowered Guardian

    I understand thank you !

    Empowered Guardian February 13, 2024 2:47 pm
    I understand thank you ! Izzie

    Do you? You made a post to mock me for being factual. You are trying to humiliate me over the truth. You changed what you said to me. Do you know much about sex? What rape is? What you did is not acceptable.

    Empowered Guardian February 13, 2024 3:06 pm

    Izzle has tried to humilate me. So I hope when people come here to see. I was civil and asked for communication. She was thanking me but she made a comment to try to humiliate. She made her self like like a cyber bully because she could not handle another pov than her own. While her actions are cowardly, I would be embarrassed if I was her.


    So when they come here, they will get this also.

    I know the definition of rape and I know the story. There is no rape in Jinx. It is sexual assault and sexual coercion with abuse.

    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/sexual-coercion#what-it-is
    Sexual coercion is when a person pressures, tricks, threatens or manipulates someone into having sex. It is a type of sexual assault because even if someone says yes, they are not giving their consent freely.

    if you look at the examples of sexual coercion only one is considered rape.

    https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/sexual-assault-and-rape#consent

    Sexual assault is any unwanted behavior of a sexual nature that makes a person feel uncomfortable, frightened or threatened. It can occur when a person is forced, tricked or coerced into sexual behaviour without agreeing to it.


    https://florinroebig.com/sexual-assault-guide/. 




    Rape is a form of sexual assault. However, not all forms of sexual assault will be considered rape. 


    https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/4538-rape-and-date-rape


Rape is a form of sexual assault in which a person (man, woman or child) is forced to engage in sexual relations (vaginal, anal or oral) against his or her will or without having given consent. Often an attacker will use physical force in committing rape; however, rape also occurs when someone uses threats of violence or emotional force or manipulation to engage an individual in sex.





    The definition of rape literally debunks rape in Jinx. It is sexual assault and sexual coercion and other abusive behavior.
    The ones claiming rape, if genuine are just from first impressions from the first reading and not reading the story in full detail or not understanding the terms they are using. Or something like that.
    However, most on this page are not genuine are only want to stir up drama and troubles. They know they would get responses to harm others to feel better about themselves and only want they degrade others or shame them.
    I am telling the truth. She wasted her time.

    Kirari~☆ February 13, 2024 5:35 pm
    There isn't really that much going on between JJK and Dan. It's a sexual relationship where monetary exchange is involved. JJK isn't the worst bl love interest but he isn't a good person or frankly a civilized ... Izzie

    Ok but why do you use breaking a cup in anger as an argument to justify your point of view and not take into consideration all the times JJK showed genuine concern or offered help to Dan without having any ulterior motives? Any broke, lonely person would fall for a handsom athlete who hires him, pays off his debt, beat up his bullies, offers him free housing, visits his sick grandma, and defends him out in public after he'd been living in misery for almost all his life. There's at least this much going on between the both of them, disregarding the sexual relationship that isn't really considered rape either. Liking sex and giving consent are two totally different things, and as far as things go, Dan did give his consent to this kind of relationship (in exchange of money, sure, but he still did).
    I'm not a fan of JJk, but no need to go overboad with attacks and false claims just to express our hate for a certain character/story

    Izzie February 13, 2024 11:42 pm
    Ok but why do you use breaking a cup in anger as an argument to justify your point of view and not take into consideration all the times JJK showed genuine concern or offered help to Dan without having any ulte... Kirari~☆

    Before speaking so much so confidently why don't you search for words like consent first ? The first time Dan and JJK had sex, Dan consented to it but when he realised how painful the ordeal was going to be he immediately RETRACTED his consent. At that point, JJK got mad and threatened to beat Dan if he didn't let him hav sex with him. That's rape. JJK threatened a guy with physical violence for his sexual needs. What do you actually think that is ?? One sided sex. Is there even something called one sided sex? It's plain rape. This story had rape in its very second chapter that's why there is a warning in the first comments. That's why after every few chapters there are angry people in the comment section asking for JJK's backstory or character development.
    Also what do you mean by how does smashing a cup justifies my point ? It justifies my point because well because it shows how uncivilized and mannerless JJK is ? If you don't know the broken shards of a glass can cut your hand and cause immense pain. Why would a person break things like that if they had a proper control over their anger like any other normal, sane member of the society. Nowhere in the transactional contract between Dan and JJK was said anything about Dan having to ensure abuse.... Dan put out up with it because he didn't had any other choice and sort of started falling because JJK was the only one in his life giving him the bare minimum amount of kindness noone apart from his granny gave him.
    Although JJK acted and helped Dan for his own gain, Dan did benefit from him so there's the reason why a poor guy like Dan fell for him.

    Izzie February 13, 2024 11:48 pm
    Ok but why do you use breaking a cup in anger as an argument to justify your point of view and not take into consideration all the times JJK showed genuine concern or offered help to Dan without having any ulte... Kirari~☆

    Also JJK is a fictional character which is why his horrible actions are not really something to lose one's mind over. I have absolutely no bias towards him but YOU certainly seems like a typical JJK defender and rape apologist. And unlike what you are saying your words definitely show your bias towards him.There is a reason why people with well functioning brains hate him throughout Twitter, Instagram etc. If you wish to put on your pink sunglasses like Dan and say no rape had occurred then that's on you. Jinx isn't the only bl manhwa where rape and abuse trope is present so let's not act blind towards it and don't brush off each one of his despicable actions as something normal coz it's not.

    Izzie February 13, 2024 11:52 pm
    Ok but why do you use breaking a cup in anger as an argument to justify your point of view and not take into consideration all the times JJK showed genuine concern or offered help to Dan without having any ulte... Kirari~☆

    I said what I said and I will stand by it. If you don't like me speaking sense then ignore it how u ignored JJK's abusive actions and rape in this manhwa. But if you wish to argue any further then feel free to do it alone coz I am not wasting any more time in writing paragraphs about JJK's actions when the majority has figured it out already. Have a good day !

    Love wins~ TMSM~LovingWarriors February 14, 2024 12:34 am
    I said what I said and I will stand by it. If you don't like me speaking sense then ignore it how u ignored JJK's abusive actions and rape in this manhwa. But if you wish to argue any further then feel free to ... Izzie

    You should allow and accept others' pov instead of attacking them and making it look like they are ignoring rape.

    People are going to perceive the story and the characters differently, you may not see that way, and disagree but they don't have to attack and trying to humiliate others for it.

    And you should practice what you are preaching. If you read the one you tried to humiliate comments you will see that you define rape wrong. Some of what you explained is sexual assault and sexual coercion.

    You are also cherry picking.
    Jaekyung threatened him. Then he told him to go home. Then Dan made a choice and his reason was he was the said he wanted the money and he will bite the bullet.
    Dan chose and then it was for money not the threat.

    https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/jinx/uu/br_chapter-129893/pg-30/

    https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/jinx/uu/br_chapter-129893/pg-32/

    Ranch House Owner February 14, 2024 12:58 am

    yikes i’ve been gone for a week and this yapster is STILL here writing thesis's…. Izzie ur right to save ur breath because this bitch called me a rape apologist for ‘adding rape to the story when there was none in the first place’

    Love wins~ TMSM~LovingWarriors February 14, 2024 1:05 am
    Before speaking so much so confidently why don't you search for words like consent first ? The first time Dan and JJK had sex, Dan consented to it but when he realised how painful the ordeal was going to be he ... Izzie

    So let’s use your condescending words “Before speaking so much so confidently why don't you search for words like consent first” or look at what was posted.

    The first time Dan gave and take away the consent many times.
    You are writing to your pov and leaving out details.


    At that point, JJK got mad and threatened to beat Dan if he didn't let him hav sex with him. That’s sexual coercion. If Dan did not consent and was forced it would had been rape. I have shown the story says it is sexual coercion then he gave Dan a choice. Dan is 29 years old. He made his mind up. .

    “JJK threatened a guy with physical violence for his sexual needs. What do you actually think that is ?? One sided sex. “

    Sounds like sexual abuse but in the realm of the story. Is it one-side? Do you understand Dan? Do you understand the story? I can tell you you are missing something.


    “Is there even something called one sided sex? It's plain rape. “ you are not listening. You are imposing.

    “This story had rape in its very second chapter that's why there is a warning in the first comments. “
    Chapter 2 is Jakyuhg and the uke having sex. There is not warning in Jinx. There is no rape in Jinx. You can see rape but stop saying people are ignoring rape because to they you add rape. If you find that offensive think at what you said to them. Don’t you think they would not find it offensive? Look at what you did with my friend when you didn’t agree.
    The problem is you are only seeing it from Dan’s perspective and not looking at others or thinking about the story.
    Have you tried to look at from Jaekyung’s perspective?
    Dan liked Jaekyung since the beginning in chapter 1.

    Jaekyubg has horrible actions. But I think you are being overly critical of him. I did not see your Jaekyung defender or rape apologist comment until now.
    I think Jaekyung is dull. I am not defending him. Your actions are just as bad as his.
    You are calling someone a rape apologist from your perspective. You believe we are ignoring rape. But we just understand the story and facts. So from our perspective can you call you a rapist? If you are offended please look it is just your actions reversed. I am asking a question.
    I see you went for ad hominems and insults. You have lost and have no good arguments. You are exposing yourself as someone that has to be right that they have to harm others. You are being cruel