Thank you! (>n_n)> I’ve been reading Yaoi since 1998, so this kind of story is literally just normal. I see lots of tropes come around cyclically, but I’ve never seen people stick around like this just to hate on something. Most people move on when they don’t like what they read. That’s what makes me think a least some of these people like Jaekung, but it’s like they are flogging themselves for liking him. They must state they hate him…for some reason. It isn’t to appease a God, so I’m not sure who they are trying to appease in the comments section of an illegal pirating website.
I know there isn’t really rape in this manga, but the younger generation calls a lot ‘rape’. I was referencing a scholarly paper about ‘Fantasy Rape’ and I think that phrase is in the title, iirc (I read it years ago). So if someone wanted to research perhaps they would find it. Fantasy Rape is the number 1 female fantasy in romance. Not just Yaoi, but regular hetero romances sport this trope as well. And it’s all primarily written by women.
I certainly won’t delete this comment thread. In fact I may start commenting more on other works I like, just stating how much I like the characters. Maybe we can see a positive turn in comments, or at the very least, get a laugh.
Why are you writing a comment that applies to you? I wished I had the luxury of having time to waste. I don't waste time, nothing I did here was a waste of time. Why on you on about? No one should wish to waste time as they could do something more productive in life.
You should start by stop being abusive and look at how immature that makes you since you are here and talk about the story too. Or are you here to attack and troll people that is truly a waste of time as it only degrades you and harms you?
How much time do you even have to waste on an illegal manga reading site that has comment sections to talk to people and discuss the story where you have to be rude and obnoxious with false claims that apply to you too?
I am jealous of you that you have time to harass others to talk about the story. I would use that time to learn a language or finish many of the projects that I had started and couldn't finish due to not having time. Or even bond of a story, oh look I am taking breaks to bond with people over this story.
You have no evidence to claim that ridiculous statement.
So why don't you think before speaking because you just made yourself look like an ignorant ass. That is what happens when you assume or act like an ass.
No problem! I have reading Yaoi for maybe that long. And Jinx comes nothing close to many of the toxic stories that are out there.
You're right this kind of story is literally just normal. I don't know why many are trying to make this the worst manhwa ever and overexaggerate Jaekyung's behavior.
My friends and I have never seen this either. Why hate on something? I hate shows and books but I don't hang around on their pages to say something daily or weekly for months. That is just ridiculous. That shows they have too much time on their hands.
A friend told me they stay because their lives are miserable and they want the company by bringing others down. My friend said since so many act just as bad or worse than Jaekyung, the reason they hate Jaekyung so much is they relate to him or see themselves in him. What they hate about others is their own reflection.
As you can tell they are abusive and try to harm others for what they think who loves this story and Jaekyung. You can't like either here without being attacked. And I am considered liking Jaekyung when I never stated my opinion on him or the story. My friend says the story is dull and Jaekyung is dull. He loves Dan. He is considered like Jaekyung.
I am glad you noticed. " They must state they hate him…for some reason." We learned we had to say that Jaekyung is toxic and has bad behaviors in each comment we make, so they would not jump to conclusions and claim we are justifying his behavior or defending him. It is known, why does it has to be said each time. OMG.
They are too wrapped up and obsessed with Jaekyung and making him more evil than he is to even notice their obsession with him. I am concluding they must like the story but are afraid to admit it. Many forget the opposite of love is apathy, not hate. So that is telling about them.
I don't who they are trying to appease either but themselves??
I don't understand the need to state they hate him and he is toxic with each chapter. You can't even talk about the story positively or neutrally without one or a few of them attacking.
They must bring the conversation back to hating Jaekyung. One of my friends was talking about Heesung and how manipulative love bombing was. A few brought up Jaekyung. Jaekyung had 29 chapters and we don't have to keep saying the same thing each time. That was time for Heesung to be discussed and his actions. He was a new character. Why talk about Jaekyung?
" it’s like they are flogging themselves for liking him" It is like that and also for others liking him or who they force to like him. One of my friends hates Jaekyung but since she had an opposite POV, they made her as if she liked the story and him. She dropped the story in chapter 30. She was attacked for saying it was not rape and the reason she does not like Jaekyung is because he reminds her of the that raped her. Yet, they force her to like Jaekyung not even caring about her feelings or how that would make her feel. They are ruthless and heartless.
"but the younger generation calls a lot ‘rape’. " I noticed that and it is strange. Makes me worry about them. I wonder what they are learning that is so wrong. They act like they have high morals but their actions and words say the opposite. I have given myself migraines trying to understand them. They love to gaslight and be abusive. Why? Like with my friend, she would say she was a rape victim when she talked about Jaekyung, so she will not get vulgar insults but soon say she was trying to use her rape as validation. It was not to say it and get hideously attacked or say it and get falsely accused because they want the story to be rape. I think that is so disgusting. The point of this, is they don't realize they are so obsessed with this story that they will walk over the people who are different from them.
About the scholarly paper you were referencing, I don't think we are using that paper. I have not seen my friends say what you just said. One is a data analyst and he will be looking for that paper now.
And we can also hope for a positive turn in comments but I don't think that is going to happen with how the younger gen acts. It is sad to see how they behave.
This person is clutching their pearls because I was expressing how I disliked a fictional character. How dare I!?!? Even after telling them to stop continuing the conversation because I told them I’m not changing my opinion- they didn’t take a hint and decided to carry on. Also saying I’m gaslighting when mentioning them trying to bring my personal life into the talk when they indeed tried. They are just another hypocrite that blocks me. To think they called themselves “understanding” but got angry and blocked me.
Would the troll stop gaslighting and trolling.
I block the troll due to lies, gaslighting, and trolling. The block means this person is trolling and there is no civil conversation.
"This person is clutching their pearls because I was expressing how I disliked a fictional character. "
FALSE
"Even after telling them to stop continuing the conversation because I told them I’m not changing my opinion.
While they told me stop which they have not..... I never tried to change their lame opinion. Stop lying.
"They didn’t take a hint and decided to carry on."
I was countering with the truth vs pathetic lies and gaslighting.
"Also saying I’m gaslighting when mentioning them trying to bring my personal life into the talk when they indeed tried."
I asked a rhetorical question for them to think about themselves as they are exposing themselves. I was not trying to bring in their personal life. Gross.
"They are just another hypocrite that blocks me. To think they called themselves “understanding” but got angry and blocked me. "
FALSE. Hypocrite does not explain my words, comments or what happen here. I did not get angry. Applying emotions is a way for trolls to discredit their opponents by looking more favorable to their peers. IF anyone got angry it was them due to their name calling, triggered responses, and gaslighting.
"Rip, meant to reply to you. Mb. To put it shortly: don’t waste your time on this person. "
that means .... Hey fellow troll you can't troll MD just leave him alone. sign a hateful gaslighting troll.
"They can’t really read things right anyways and will take things out of context'
Thanks for the power but I am not them. Who is not read things right and taking my comment out of context to gaslight and falsely assuse people on their own misunderstanding.
" while calling you a gaslighter and abusive."
It is a call out on actions and words not the people.
Calling someone out isn't meant to harm someone–it's meant to point out where someone went wrong in hopes of them correcting themself and apologizing. Being called out isn't the same thing as being attacked. Being attacked is a malicious intent to hurt
The lame misuse of the word hypocrite is malicious intent to hurt. While mine are calls out to have a civil conversation. IF no civil conversation can be made or just gaslight after gaslight a block is made to mark that person.
I am not mad. They have no power over my emotions. It is inappropriate to do what they are doing. It is for cowardly people. I feel sorry for them for how fall they had fallen to harm other people. It is pathetic.
more gaslighting.. Ing = action.
"if you have resorted to insults, lies, and gaslighting you know you lost" Resorted to gaslighting.. is talking about action.
Actions can be changed.
I was giving them a chance to be a better person and do the right thing but they doubled down on stupidity and pathetic trolling that only cowardly people do.
They are not disagreeing with me. I did not give my opinion on the story. My comments are from the actual story. If they can't handle the actual story details and act like a child throwing a tantrum why would I be mad when many should be laughing at them? I just feel sorry that they want to say willfully ignorant and shallow in hate as they gaslight me and this situation.
I read over my comments I don't call them a gaslighter or abusive. They took my words out of context to attack me. pathetic.
"And that is one way to deal with an annoying user who gets mad that you have your own opinion and don’t understand when to shut up. You don’t have to take bullshit from people."
What are they on? What a joke. Why would I be mad at someone acting so childish and have a tantrum like child would.
I call out people's BS and that means I don't take it from them but telling them there actions are inappropriate and calling out makes again.
Calling someone out isn't meant to harm someone–it's meant to point out where someone went wrong in hopes of them correcting themself and apologizing. Being called out isn't the same thing as being attacked. Being attacked is a malicious intent to hurt
It is an attempt for them to be an adult and have a conversation when it is shown they will not be then they are blocked.
https://markmanson.net/how-we-judge-others
If we believe that we’re victimized by society and deserve justice, then we will believe that others are victims of society and deserve justice as well. If we believe our value comes from faith in a higher power, then we will view others by their faith (or lack of faith) in a higher power. If we measure ourselves by our intellect and use of reason, then we will judge others through the same lens.
When you judge others, you don't define them, you define yourself.
If they think I am a hypocrite then they are judging me with the same measure as they judge themselves. The troll here that is gaslighting thinks they are being a hypocrite. It is projection. And the troll is from their comments. I am not calling them a troll. That is what your comments are saying they are. it is something they can change. Blocking someone that is in bad faith does not equal to being mad. What are they on? lol
Classic lame trolling.
How inappropriate it is to lie, troll, and insult with the intent to harm others.
Cha Junho Stop trolling and gaslighting. Be an adult instead of a child throw a tantrum.
A block means to leave me alone with that pathetic nonsense or be an adult and have a civil conversation to be unblocked. There is no in-between.
Look up "trolling is for cowards". You will find things like this https://www.ellevatenetwork.com/articles/7614-invisible-cowards-how-trolling-became-america-s-newest-ugliest-past-time
Or why do people troll
You will learn trolls exhibit "psychopathy, machiavellianism, narcissism, and sadism. '
They are sadistic or they have miserable life's and trying to feel better about themselves.
https://powerof0.org/how-trolls-are-born/
https://theconversation.com/new-research-shows-trolls-dont-just-enjoy-hurting-others-they-also-feel-good-about-themselves-145931
It is important that this should be a fun and positive space for everyone to enjoy their interests but it is not due to many hateful people. Positive space, not always being positive, it has nothing to do with comments or opinions.
How are you making this a fun and positive space? Why are you trying to ruin my experience on here because you did not like what the actual story says or logical from the real world or me trying to enlighten others?
You are ruining this page and this site with that toxic environment you are helping to create. Stop being abusive and toxic.
Their words “when you judge others, you don’t define them, you define yourself.”
Oh the irony. They said I was gaslighting when I said they were trying to personally attack me using my username when they said- and I quote:
“ More negativity and lies in your life. Your screen name is LiE. What are you focused on lies? How many have lied to you in your life? Ultimately, your focus should be on you, not trying to control the people or things around you.”
First of all my personal life is none of their fucking business and it was VERY “irreverent” (a word they like to also incorrectly use) to the topic including being my username into the conversation and I’m not controlling anyone. I was stating and opinion and that’s all I wanted to do- but I made this rando get their panties in a twist and clutch their pearls some how. I simply wanted to say I don’t like a character and how I see it and they wanted to continue a conversation I had no interest in. They didn’t take a hint of course.
Replying to people like Morning Diamonds is a waste of your time and attention. If you talk to stupid, you might catch it. They will scream and cry to no end. Look at those large essays they poured their their little heart out. All they about to is the dort behind their ear. It sad to see such a personified waste of tune, but that doesn't mean you need to give them your attention and sympathy. Mourning Diarrhea doesn't deserve it. You need to know this:
They ate their own brain at three. They will pick fights because no one wants to give them attention in real life. They live in their Mommy's basement. Mourning Diarrhea, if you read this, lol get Nae Naed hypocrite~ get mad lol anyways enough reading their baby babble Lie. Or you will have to change their diaper too~ (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ
LMAO to be honest I felt like I was gonna have a stroke reading that with all the typos. Good thing I know you. Anyways thanks I get it. This new user thinks everyone needs to act how they say they should act or else we will ruin our lives. If anything they’re being hella manipulative in this conversation and refuse to actually just accept that people aren’t going to agree with them and their stupid ideals. Calling anyone who dears think otherwise a troll. :/ It’d be more convincing if they were the troll with how they barged in and started telling people how to act. Acting like I have issues in my life I have to address- I do but it’s none of the things they mentioned. I have no regret on my opinion even if he becomes a better person. (Jae) Period. That’s it. I can change my opinion whenever since like I said it could change later on but other than that- let me read and decide what I think. They don’t get to think for me. They don’t get to tell me how I should think or tell anyone else to think. Yes I’m defensive because they got personal on something that didn’t need to be- On something fictional??? Talk about immature. “How many have lied to you in your life?” What kind of question is that? That was part of their reply after all I just said “ He should be humbled. I wouldn’t be still reading this if I didn’t have a spark of hope that something interesting will finally happen- but until then this how I see it.” This talk wasn’t about me or them- but they start saying shit in their reply like: “your focus should be on you, not trying to control the people or things around you.” Um. Why tell me this? I wasn’t doing any of that and ironically if anything that’s literally what they’re trying to do. Trying to tell people how to act when they should just focus on themselves because this was not supposed to be about us to begin with. They really should practice what they preach. I think they have a hard time reading/writing because otherwise they’d know they come off as a passive aggressive asshole. Another reason why there would be people who wouldn’t want to listen to them.
They are now cyber bullying me with gaslighting and insults.
I don’t deserve how they are treating me so ill -mannered.
I only explained Karma to them.
If they look I used this article to explain karma.
https://www.healthline.com/health/laws-of-karma#definition
Karma if you focus on negative things you bring negative things. If you focus on positive things you bring positive things.
The great law or the law of cause and effect
When most people talk about karma, they’re likely referring to the great law of cause and effect, Patel says.
According to this law, whatever thoughts or energy you put out, you get back — good or bad. In order to get what you want, you have to embody and be worthy of those things. It’s the concept of what you reap, you sow.
If you focus on not being wanting to spill a drink on your shirt. You will spill it on your shirt.
If you focus on lies, you will get lies and misinformation. Or you are saying you are a person who lies.
What I was saying, should never amount to cyber bullying and gaslighting.
That new one is just an alter of the one who took my comments out of context to cyber bully me. It is sad they couldn’t handle an explanation of Karma.
Karma is a belief that the effects of a person's actions will come back to them in the future. Focusing on lies and negativity can attract more of the same energy into your life. It's important to focus on positivity and honesty to attract positive outcomes. Just remember to always strive to be truthful and ethical in your actions.
Cyber bullying is never okay. Their actions are on them and I don’t deserve their bad behavior. They are the ones with the harmful behavior.
I will leave this to karma to take care of and what ever they are dishing will come back to them but worst. That is how Karma works.
Fucking love the heartache! It will make them getting together romantically, not just physically, all the better. Shout out to Jaekung, he is a great seme! Good thing he’s fictional and can’t read some of these comments. I mean, we all know what’s gonna happen, right? They’re gonna be madly in love with each other in the end. At least that’s the trend in this genre. The seme being at a narrative low means his story to his narrative high is going to be amazing. I fucking love Jaekung and find his journey interesting. Also: liking fantasy rape is fine! Don’t let the naysayers get to you! They’re hypocrites who are over 40 chapters in. They love everything about this story, including Jaekung.