Unpopular opinion that people missed

csalone17 February 3, 2024 7:14 am

Kim Dan is in NEED of money. I get that you sympathize over his situation but he got debt and medical fees to pay. Let's not forget that his grandma's condition isn't easily cured nor can be managed by eating healthy stuff.

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    csalone17 February 5, 2024 8:51 am
    Babes, transactional relationships do not warrant physical abuse (as shown in the most recent chapters) nor do they warrant financial abuse. And before you claim their relationship isn’t an example of economi... Kokichi’s Grape Panta

    Funny how you misused those words. Search it up yourself u might shock urself. The only time it will be an abused is if the perpetrator did do something to manipulate or pull a trick to limit a victim from resources or financial needs. Which Jk didn't do coz Dan's already in that situation, he was only given an option. The only time u could say it's a financial abuse is if Jk use a bit of forced for Dan to accept it, he didn't though Dan was the one who look for him in the end to accept Jk's condition. You can't say not having a choice, ha have that at first he was given a time to think if he wanted. It's his situation that pushed him but not JK. It's like joining to sell druggie not everyone was forced, they just choose to do it. So who are u gonna blame if they were caught. If u still think that's victim blaming, u guys are very stupid at this point. Victim blaming happens if the victim who are solely innocent were accused of a crime he didn't want nor know that it's gonna happen. Same with druggie example, it will be a victim blaming if he was drugged before hand and was used multiple times without him knowing that by drinking or interacting with friends things will escalate. That's how victim blaming works. U can't say I was victim blaming just coz I said he deserved it coming knowing what's the consequences of his action. I hope ur not stupid enough to not know everything got consequences. It's not rocket science that what Dan experienced is bound to happen. Also he isn't really gonna be abused if Dan just did his job tbh. He knows he gonna be having sex with him then he should always prepare himself. I'm a prosti bitch I know how abused happen more than u think, I know that there are guys that are straight up abuser and there are guys that wants things to be done smoothly. Dan is too shy and isn't allowing his pride to prepare himself for that kind of things ,so obviously he's gonna be rough handed. This is why cuddled up bitches like u don't know things about this kind thing. U only think being pitiful is enough or to pitty someone is good. Like heck I'm sure you're one of those guys that are judgemental than me lol stop with ur misused words kinda stupid. U acting like ur a hero for saving thru words "it's abuse" lol to a person who's actually lucky enough if he just did his job

    csalone17 February 5, 2024 9:18 am
    That's EXACTLY why it's victim blaming. You can't say "what vicitim blaming" then victim blame in the next sentence. Victim blaming is when you put fault on the VICTIM for the situation they are in, saying thin... MaruMaru

    Bitch me victim blaming coz I said Dan accepted lolol u are as stupid as you sound. Now wonder you sound like the others here who are cuddled up by their parents. Lmao

    Bfr lolol if I'm being honest to u I'm a prosti myself so I know how most people in this kind of industry works. Jk isn't as horrible as the others. I never said he isn't an asshole nor a person who got anger issues or low EQ. Considering how he interact to everyone and the difference when he talk with Dan's grandma.

    Again it wasn't victim blaming. What I said is true, that's the consequences of his action. When Dan accepted those things while warned by others, it's not rocket science that those things is bound to happen. I, myself know that being in this job mistreatment is bound to happen, guys who's gonna do it with u then run away with ur money. Heck, I even make them pay sooner before we start the deed. Coz those things are the consequences of my decision. It's not victim blaming. The only time it'll be victim blaming is if Jk deliberately manipulate Dan's resources or try to cut him off from by blocking his way to be employed just so Dan could accept his condition. That's where victim blaming occur. Although that didn't happen since he was given time and it was Dan he look for him in the end without Jk doing anything to ensure he'll come back to him.


    It's also funny how u easily talk about money. Let's just accept all those things u said, but what will happen if the result of Jk's fight is his death. Lolol

    Late just leave those thought about being late, maybe if Dan thought about that way back he's younger then wouldn't he be a big shot by now if luck comes his way. Lol

    Anyway things are getting long now, cuddled up bitches like u don't really know how world works. It's even east for u to say that being hurt by doing his career is ok because he got lots of money lmao do u have anything against with rich people. Getting millions of money isn't something to be proud of, investment? stocks? One wrong move and all those money will be gone. Real estate isn't gonna ensure money stability, only risk taker do that. There's a lot of things to pay when owning real estate who knows the person who's staying in ur place isn't actually a good payer or would wreck the place. The only time that there are lots of rich people who stay on top are either manipulating their taxes or doing some illegal stuff behind. Genuine rich people gonna have to work more, if ur disable ur money will be gone as same with people that works with you if you have nothing left.

    Kokichi’s Grape Panta February 5, 2024 10:18 am
    Funny how you misused those words. Search it up yourself u might shock urself. The only time it will be an abused is if the perpetrator did do something to manipulate or pull a trick to limit a victim from reso... csalone17

    fuck this reply is vile

    “Also he isn’t gonna be abused if Dan just did his job tbh” “ U can't say I was victim blaming just coz I said he deserved it coming”

    Hon, JK was aware of Dan’s situation and he took advantage of that to fulfill his desires. The fact that Dan did not have a reasonable choice but to accept JK’s offer then, and has no choice but to continue as JK’s sex partner now in order to maintain safety for both him and his grandmother makes their relationship an abusive one. It is Dan’s lack of power, of a choice other than to continue has JK’s partner in order to stay safe because of his lack of economic stability apart from JK that makes their relationship an abusive one. Your anecdotes as a sex partner do not change the fact that their relationship is an abusive one, and that is not on Dan.

    Kokichi’s Grape Panta February 5, 2024 10:20 am
    fuck this reply is vile“Also he isn’t gonna be abused if Dan just did his job tbh” “ U can't say I was victim blaming just coz I said he deserved it coming”Hon, JK was aware of Dan’s situation and h... Kokichi’s Grape Panta

    A sex worker* mb

    csalone17 February 5, 2024 11:12 am
    fuck this reply is vile“Also he isn’t gonna be abused if Dan just did his job tbh” “ U can't say I was victim blaming just coz I said he deserved it coming”Hon, JK was aware of Dan’s situation and h... Kokichi’s Grape Panta

    Dude at this point your literally spouting misinformation. Anyway, I re-read the first 6 chaps. So, based on the story Dan was hired for physical therapy. Jk likes his massage so he have his coach call and asked for Dan's service. Note he never knew anything about Dan's situation other than he's in need of money. Long story short it was actually Dan who demanded for big amount of money, well he demanded right after Jk told him about his jinx and condition why he hired him to be his PT.

    Also, on the first time Dan entered Jk's penthouse he saw how violent Jk to others when get irritated. I'm not sure how you got to the point of "lack of power to choose" when he's is one who accepted, consent and gave mutual demand on their relationship such as a big amount of money.

    The first time they did it too, Jk told him if he don't want to do it he can just get the fuck out. That's another choice that was given to him.

    If my reply is vile, ur reply is full of bullshit lmao. I advice re-read the story, coz your delusional mind is making up shit now.

    But hey, u have one thing correct Jk is an asshole and violent, obviously, even on the training he's showing his way of fighting with lots of force.

    Kokichi’s Grape Panta February 5, 2024 12:50 pm
    Dude at this point your literally spouting misinformation. Anyway, I re-read the first 6 chaps. So, based on the story Dan was hired for physical therapy. Jk likes his massage so he have his coach call and aske... csalone17

    Jk told him if he don't want to do it he can just get the fuck out.

    This statement on its own represents how JK uses his assets, his wealth, and his overall economical control over Dan to gain control over him. This statement is not a choice given to Dan, it is a threat. If Dan doesn’t do as JK pleases the ver necessities he’s grown to require in order to ensure the wellbeing of himself and his grandmother will be stripped from him. What about that do you not understand?

    csalone17 February 5, 2024 2:07 pm
    Jk told him if he don't want to do it he can just get the fuck out.This statement on its own represents how JK uses his assets, his wealth, and his overall economical control over Dan to gain control over him. ... Kokichi’s Grape Panta

    Yeah like I said you're delusional. Giving too much meaning on a simple context.

    If someone tells you to get the fuck out or not waste their time. It only means get the fuck out. Dan isn't a god or a special being that Jk will beg him to stay so he don't care much if he go.

    Your way of thinking reminds me of people that even though you told them "no" they will keep harassing or talking with you just coz they put too much meaning. Lolol You're too stupid if u think like that

    Kokichi’s Grape Panta February 5, 2024 4:50 pm
    Yeah like I said you're delusional. Giving too much meaning on a simple context. If someone tells you to get the fuck out or not waste their time. It only means get the fuck out. Dan isn't a god or a special be... csalone17

    But that isn’t all it means. In order to come to the conclusion that you came to you’d need to disregard the extenuating circumstances behind Dan’s decision to ultimately agree and JK’s reasoning behind making that offer.

    To clear things up first and foremost we have to disillusion you to the belief that Dan wanted to be JK’s sex partner. Dan hooked up with JK because he had no other source of income that could adequately fund both the expenses of living as well as his grandmother’s treatment, and even after they hooked up Dan’s disinterest with anything further was represented by him actively avoiding any confrontation with JK. Though Dan did end up returning to JK and taking him up on his offer, he only did so because he lacked a choice in the matter. Dan was already living in poverty and barely capable of supporting his grandmother and himself despite working multiple jobs, learning the cost for his grandmother’s treatments would only increase (despite the sum of money he received from hooking up with JK) put him in a position where his only opportunity to stay afloat would be to take JK up on his offer.

    This situation on its own is not abusive. JK was admittedly unaware of Dan’s situation and thought he was just giving Dan (who he believed was already someone who slept around) a great offer. His objectification of Dan, however, is problematic and dehumanizing. He acknowledges Dan as nothing but a sex toy in later chapters which is a completely separate form of abuse, but that’s mostly irrelevant to the point I’m trying to make now.

    The events that unfolded post the signing of the agreement made it clear to JK just how dire Dan’s situation was, with three key events coming to mind:

    A) JK met Dan’s grandmother and realized why Dan might need money in the first place, with Dan being her sole provider all of the financial burdens of taking care of her would be on him
    B) JK witnessed Dan’s loansharks beating and nearly raping Dan firsthand. He recognized Dan lacked safety and protection due to the financial decisions he was forced to make prior to meeting JK, as well as the fact that Dan could not defend himself physically to
    C) Dan was homeless. Because of neighborhood renovations Dan’s home was temporarily seized. Dan did not have a place to stay where he could bring his family heirloom (the cabinet) nor the heart to give it up due to its cultural and personal significance as the one thing his grandmother did not give up in order to raise Dan.

    These three factors led to JK being Dan’s sole beneficiary, his sole source of income, living arrangements, and protection from the multitude of trials actively holding him down. JK’s response to all of this? Objectification, abuse, rules that stripped Dan of any semblance of self respect or integrity. Rules that made Dan nothing more than something to be used, something Dan even up till these last chapters did not want to be. Dan did not want to be some toy to fulfill JK’s jinx, but his economical instability and codependency on JK forced him to remain as such. Dan has no power in this situation, and JK is aware of it, despite this he uses and abuses Dan often without any regard for how it might affect him. That. Is. Abuse.

    PuhLEASE just read the story, I’m sorry but telling me you “reread to chap6” and, as you initially stated, hadn’t actually read most of Jinx, just completely discredits anything you say and it shows in your opinions.

    csalone17 February 5, 2024 10:50 pm
    But that isn’t all it means. In order to come to the conclusion that you came to you’d need to disregard the extenuating circumstances behind Dan’s decision to ultimately agree and JK’s reasoning behind... Kokichi’s Grape Panta

    PuhLEASE whether I don't read the entire story what happen to Dan is still the result of his action. And...

    You just like to make things worst coz newsflash to u. You have this weird obsession anger towards rich people. Even if Jk was aware of it, u got angry coz he didn't give Dan a money without fulfilling his job. U know like "donating". Based on the story itself there wasn't anything that changes on Jk. You just expect him to be kind and give lots of money to Dan to pay his debt, medical fees and to get a new house. That's why you're interpreting it too much. What do you think a sex work should be, aren't they a sex toy for people that wants to let out some steam. Lmao

    Don't try to justify "sex worker should not be used as sex toy or objectify as sex toy" coz that's their job. I can guarantee you as a prosti your job is to be a sex toy and fulfill sexual needs of your customer.
    Anyway, I already said what I said, your still the cuddled up bitch that I know so you expect that if you're in pitiful situation. People should be obligated to help you lmao Yet you're not helping anyone yourself, you just pity them and throw some stupid shit word to be "heroic"

    I stand to what I say what happen to Dan is part of his decision, he was pushed by his situation not JK. Jk didn't care about anyone including Dan so your argument that he's manipulating or doing some shit to make Dan's life hard isn't even true. He never did physically hurt him unless it was when Dan CHOOSE not to prepare himself before having sex or he was angered. Jk is a violent asshole but he's not at fault why Dan choose to stay with him. AND again it's not Jk's fault that Dan is suffering due to poverty.

    You are also a delusional stuck up cuddled up bitch that never think about the bigger side and always pick poor=victim lmao stupid bitches
    I ain't gonna reply to u anymore knowing how delusional, like to misinformed and obsessed over rich people. You are a walking stupid weird bitch that likes to spout unrealistic things. If you want justice make sure you know how to spot who are wrong here. Don't side on "he's much more pitiful", that's not how justice works. Only stupid people think like you do. Lolol

    Kokichi’s Grape Panta February 6, 2024 3:18 am
    PuhLEASE whether I don't read the entire story what happen to Dan is still the result of his action. And...You just like to make things worst coz newsflash to u. You have this weird obsession anger towards rich... csalone17

    But this is what I mean. You have no idea what’s been happening so far so you’re basically spouting misinformation. JK has grown physically violent towards Dan and he has been taking advantage of Dan in a multitude of ways ranging from having sex with Dan in front of Dan’s friends to literally forcing Dan at his place of work. You know so little about this story, yet you claim because Dan was in no position to refuse all that happens to him is consensual and morally right. That is victim blaming. This is abuse. You are beyond fucked up.

    Kokichi’s Grape Panta February 6, 2024 3:22 am
    But this is what I mean. You have no idea what’s been happening so far so you’re basically spouting misinformation. JK has grown physically violent towards Dan and he has been taking advantage of Dan in a m... Kokichi’s Grape Panta

    Dan had a whole cliche crying in the shower scene and everything. Wanting to have sex and having to have sex are two different things, and Dan lies on the latter end of the consent spectrum.

    pookienation February 6, 2024 6:35 am

    omg yall need to stfu yall been going at it for two damn days and I been getting notifs I should've never commented . got me thinking sum updated