Unpopular opinion that people missed

csalone17 February 3, 2024 7:14 am

Kim Dan is in NEED of money. I get that you sympathize over his situation but he got debt and medical fees to pay. Let's not forget that his grandma's condition isn't easily cured nor can be managed by eating healthy stuff.

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    csalone17 February 3, 2024 7:17 am

    I haven't really read the story so I'm not sure if his grandma is still alive and if she is then I said what I said.

    Skoopy February 3, 2024 7:23 am
    I haven't really read the story so I'm not sure if his grandma is still alive and if she is then I said what I said. csalone17

    If you haven’t read the story why are you talking about it

    Also what’s your opinion???

    pookienation February 3, 2024 7:31 am
    If you haven’t read the story why are you talking about it Also what’s your opinion??? Skoopy

    right cs what..

    Skoopy February 3, 2024 7:43 am
    right cs what.. pookienation

    I don’t think it’s possible to miss that Dan is in debt and needs money so he’s sticking with jaekyung… that’s the plot TT-TT

    csalone17 February 3, 2024 8:04 am
    If you haven’t read the story why are you talking about it Also what’s your opinion??? Skoopy

    I read the story but stop till chaps where Jk and Doc Dan have a ring fight practice. So, I'm not sure whether his grandma die knowing her fragile health condition

    csalone17 February 3, 2024 8:07 am
    If you haven’t read the story why are you talking about it Also what’s your opinion??? Skoopy

    My opinion is he can't just leave Jk just coz he's being mistreated unless he wants to die as well while risking delaying payment for his grandma's bill. It's weird how lots of people keeps telling to leave or run lmao

    MaruMaru February 3, 2024 8:12 am

    And? It doesn't mean that JK isn't an actual dickhead who's horrible to people for shits and giggles

    csalone17 February 3, 2024 8:14 am
    And? It doesn't mean that JK isn't an actual dickhead who's horrible to people for shits and giggles MaruMaru

    Ur point is? Isn't Doc Dan agreed to all of that knowing Jk's attitude even the first time they meet

    MaruMaru February 3, 2024 8:41 am
    Ur point is? Isn't Doc Dan agreed to all of that knowing Jk's attitude even the first time they meet csalone17

    You just said that he can't just leave JK bc of money and Doc Dan agreed to everything - you contradicted yourself.

    Yes, Dan agreed, but again it isn't really consensual because JK has financial advantage, and therefore Dan doesn't really have any power in the situation. You don't really have a choice when it comes down to: "Work for me, or your grandma dies"

    No matter how shitty the person is, if someone who you care about has their life at stake and THEY can help, you're probs gonna stick with it.

    You said you read up to the spar arc between Dan and JK so let me update you: People are loosing it because Dan has FALLEN IN LOVE with JK, and he has NOT changed his attitude ONE BIT nor had any form of tragic backstory. So, everyone is like "Dan...what...are you doing??? Why? LIke...what do you see in him? " PLUS a second male lead came into the mix who's just as rich and famous as JK, if not even MOREso, and he was also INTERESTED in Dan, BUT he was actually NICE (for the most part).

    Honestly, his attitude towards things isn't too different from JK, he's just less of an asshole about it and treats people like human beings.

    So basically...Dan had the option to leave JK at one point. There was another guy interested in him who could afford to pay for his grandma's treatment, and he was NICE. But he chose not to. Then fell in love with a total piece of work. So, readers are basically like "HELLOOOO? Dan are you delulu ? Wtf snap out of it"

    Skoopy February 3, 2024 10:12 am
    You just said that he can't just leave JK bc of money and Doc Dan agreed to everything - you contradicted yourself.Yes, Dan agreed, but again it isn't really consensual because JK has financial advantage, and ... MaruMaru

    Well said *clap clap*

    Kokichi’s Grape Panta February 3, 2024 10:13 am

    If I’m not mistaken your opinion is that JK’s actions are justified due to the fact that, economically speaking, Dan and JK’s relationship is mutually beneficial (Dan receives money and safety from the debt collectors as well as money to pay for his grandmother’s healthcare and JK receives assistance with his jinx in the form of sexual favors), yeah you’re in the minority here.

    What I just described is not a mutually beneficial relationship, it’s financial abuse. Dan has no fallback, no safety net apart from JK’s carrot/stick manipulation tactics. If Dan does not give his body to JK he will lose protection from the debt collectors, he will lose a residence or any place to sleep, and he will lose the money needed to sustain both himself and his grandmother. This is an abusive relationship.

    Kokichi’s Grape Panta February 3, 2024 10:15 am
    I haven't really read the story so I'm not sure if his grandma is still alive and if she is then I said what I said. csalone17

    And girl what are you doing saying such controversial bullshit with such an obscene lack of information??

    csalone17 February 4, 2024 3:05 pm
    And girl what are you doing saying such controversial bullshit with such an obscene lack of information?? Kokichi’s Grape Panta

    What u mean obscene lack of information. You guys are delusional over the "pitiful" display that author created for Doc Dan. He may lack in financial but you can't just say he was manipulated or trick coz Jk didn't deliberately corner him. Even before he knows Jk he's already chased by those loan sharks and medical pays. It's funny how everyone calls it "financial abuse" when JK already stated he could do anything and Doc Dan have to do whatever he says. There's no financial abuse here if a person allowed it whether out of desperation. To be honest the only thing he gotta do is take it in his ass and do those physical therapy. Those gifts Jk gave to him he could have sold it, which he didn't since the "pitiful" over generous shit display will be gone if Dan did accept all those things and use his brain for once. Lmao

    csalone17 February 4, 2024 3:17 pm
    You just said that he can't just leave JK bc of money and Doc Dan agreed to everything - you contradicted yourself.Yes, Dan agreed, but again it isn't really consensual because JK has financial advantage, and ... MaruMaru

    I don't know what u mean by contradicting myself but I don't remember doing that. Dan did have lack of money, he knows Jk is an a-hole yet still accepted the condition to follow what Jk wanted. I also remember there's already another person that told Dan about how Jk treat people yet still didn't leave early on or stop himself from falling for Jk. I did say he can't just leave knowing Jk gives a lot of money compare to what he earn before and knowing how expensive his grandma's meds

    It's also quite annoying how people solely blame Jk for rejecting and throwing Dan's gift when Jk already told him to never do useless things other than serve him. Almost everyone are a fool when it comes to "pitiful" display. Truly, talks about "financial imbalance","financial abuse", "manipulation" when Jk didn't manipulate him he just gave him option it's up to him if does it or not coz Jk got lots of side bitches, etc Let's be real here, what happen to your life, no one is obligated to help you. Don't forget that Jk is rich now but one mistake on his career and everything goes down to hell or worst death. Both are struggling on their life. I don't like picking sides. Both are wrong and stupid especially the MC, tbh

    MaruMaru February 4, 2024 7:47 pm
    I don't know what u mean by contradicting myself but I don't remember doing that. Dan did have lack of money, he knows Jk is an a-hole yet still accepted the condition to follow what Jk wanted. I also remember ... csalone17

    Let me point out where you contradicted yourself in your statements, by copy and pasting exactly what you said:

    "My opinion is he can't just leave Jk just coz he's being mistreated unless he wants to die as well while risking delaying payment for his grandma's bill." --> You're saying Dan doesn't have a choice.

    "Isn't Doc Dan agreed to all of that knowing Jk's attitude even the first time they meet" --> Then you said he made a choice here.

    So which one is it? Is it "He has no choice but to stay" or "But he made the choice to stay"?

    Yeah, JK's career can go down the drain in one move, but with an athletic career, everything's not gonna go to hell and he's not gonna loose all his riches lol. His career wouldn't even last long to begin with. Boxers usually retire in their late 30s and early 40s according to google, and peak at around 27 - 30 years old. JK is 27, so he's right in the middle of his career, and, as described in the manhwa, at his peak. Sure, it's an honour thing, but saying he's "rich now" insinuates he'll loose it all if he looses his career. He has enough money to keep him going WELL after he retires, even if it's early. Internationally top famous fighters (like JK) get paid MILLIONS for fights. I assure you, JK's gonna be fine even with that injury.

    The difference between Dan and JK is Dan has higher stakes to worry about but JK wanna act like he's as or more important 90% of the time, when it's not.

    Dan loosing money is: Shit, I'm gonna be homeless and my grandma's gonna die.

    JK loosing money is: aw I have to move out of my penthouse and stop buying luxury brands at worst :(

    They both have their struggles, but it doesn't take a genius to see that Dan is struggling the most between the two.

    Also everyone's not solely blaming JK for throwing the keyring Dan gifted him. Everyone is more so like: "DAN, DO YOU SEE HOW THIS REAFFRIMS THE GUY YOU LIKE IS A DOUCHE??? WHY DO YOU HAVE A CRUSH ON HIM??"

    But agreed: JK is wrong and a dickhead, and Dan is stupid for seeing something in such a dickhead. They're both infuriating, don't get me wrong but... JK is WAY more infuriating for one sole reason: Dan's actions are well-intentioned, but JK's actions are ill-intentioned.

    People will like a character who gives flowers to someone they like, more than a character who receives flowers from someone who likes them and stomps on them because they didn't want any in the first place.

    csalone17 February 5, 2024 1:58 am
    Let me point out where you contradicted yourself in your statements, by copy and pasting exactly what you said:"My opinion is he can't just leave Jk just coz he's being mistreated unless he wants to die as well... MaruMaru

    Nope that didn't contradict anything. He could have not accepted at the start and find something better knowing Jk have a nasty attitude. When I said "he can't just leave" I really mean he can't "just" leave, Dan accepted to put his grandma in a new procedure which costs him more so yeah he really can't just leave now if he wants her to live. If a treatment started,u can't just stop in the middle of it coz that mean more risks.

    And it's not like I said Dan isn't allowed to leave he just can't do it out of whim. Which is easy for most to say "just leave him Dan" , "let him chase you" lol quite a delusional, if that happens irl Dan is dead by now if he stop.

    "He has no choice but to stay" - coz obviously he have no choice he already started why would he leave now, unless hes much more stupid and let his pride win him
    "But he made the choice to stay"? - he did choose to stay at the start way back before things gets serious especially his grandma's treatment and even after he was warned by Jk's prev partner , he still choose to stay.

    Everything got consequences either you loss one or everything.


    It's funny too how you're only focusing on Jk's money like dude Jk's career isn't easy. You think a simple injury can still make your money stay lmao Have you ever seen a boxer die or was heavily injured that he can't walk and talk properly. If he dies all those wealth is nothing if he did survive but heavily injured all those money will be gone. But, obviously u don't care about those things coz "financial imbalance" is much clearer to criticized.

    Like I said Dan would suffer long but Jk still have his own risks.


    If u really want Dan to have same status with Jk to have an "equal" status. Dan should start training and join sports like JK. You know to also remove "financial abuse" shit things lmao

    Intention are intention. The day u accepted it, face it. Same with Jk tbh he accepted his fate well that's why he's desperate to keep doing those Jinx thing. Dan too, although he got delusional at some point and too stupid to not cross the line.

    Kokichi’s Grape Panta February 5, 2024 4:01 am
    Nope that didn't contradict anything. He could have not accepted at the start and find something better knowing Jk have a nasty attitude. When I said "he can't just leave" I really mean he can't "just" leave, D... csalone17

    The victim blaming and cognitive dissonance here is wild

    csalone17 February 5, 2024 4:15 am
    The victim blaming and cognitive dissonance here is wild Kokichi’s Grape Panta

    Victim blame on what really? He accepted the job, he got the money he needed. U saying?

    MaruMaru February 5, 2024 8:16 am
    Victim blame on what really? He accepted the job, he got the money he needed. U saying? csalone17

    That's EXACTLY why it's victim blaming. You can't say "what vicitim blaming" then victim blame in the next sentence. Victim blaming is when you put fault on the VICTIM for the situation they are in, saying things like, (keywords), they CHOSE it and they ACCEPTED IT. Like "oh, well he put himself in that situation, so it's his fault and he got what he wanted in the end??" but the situation itself is BAD and HORRIBLE; that's why they're a victim. And why what you're saying classifies as victim blaming. You are telling the victim that they chose the situation.

    And yes, a simple injury isn't gonna strip JK of his money, no matter how you say it so. It's not going anywhere and he's not gonna lose it. I'm not saying the injury can still make his money, yeah, his stream of income from BOXING is gone but, the previous money he made (which is probably in the millions)...stays in his bank account, they don't seize it. Rich people have assets yk lol, he probably does as well. Just because JK can't box anymore doesn't mean anything in his bank account is leaving lmao, nor does it mean he doesn't have other investments that make him even MORE money. That is what a normal rich person, billionaires and many famous athletes do. Wealthy people don't SOLELY make their income on their jobs, they invest in stocks and properties on the side etc. So if JK injures himself and is forced to retire from boxing, he will still have money AND income from other sources.

    I'm not saying it's an easy job, I'm saying that his job has made him enough money that if he retired as is....he could live off that money for the rest of the life without getting another job.

    Yes, JK has his own risks and struggles, I'm not denying that, BUT his struggles PALE in comparison to Dan's. Kinda like a kid whining about not getting a 90% on a test and only getting 83% when the kid next to them got a 30% and risks not being able to graduate. They're both real struggles but one of them has a more prominent consequence. Dan's struggles are just gonna have bigger consequences than JK's, that's a fact.

    That's why people feel worse for Dan. Bc JK sounds like the kid who's bitching about not getting 90% next to someone who got 30%. JK is bitching about not being able to continue his winning streak when Dan is at the mercy of getting kicked out and becoming homeless if he pisses him off too much. One consequence is just OBJECTIVELY worse.

    And no, Dan training to be a boxer or athlete like JK would NOT remove any financial imbalance at ALL. As I said, top internationally famous boxers, like JK, get paid millions for their matches, NOT regular boxers. Regular boxes make around 50k per year and barely scrape by. Plus, as I said before, boxers peak around 27 - 30 years of age and Dan is 29, so if he were to start, he would've passed his peak by the time his training is finished. It would be a short career seeing as he'd probably have to retire in 6 - 9 years at the earliest. He has no prior physical training to go back on as we've seen either, so it would just be a career of mediocrity in comparison to JK's success.

    Even if Dan went into a different sport, boxing itself is actually very LATE in retirement age in comparison to the other sports out there. Most athletes in most sports retire by around 30 and...Dan is 29 + would just be starting out so there wouldn't be a regular team who would accept him. If we really wanna put him in a sport, golfing would be his best bet but PGA golfers make 32k a year on average, unless again, he becomes REALLY good and FAMOUS.

    JK's talented in the aspect of boxing and sports, yes, and he does work for his money, but it doesn't change the fact that he's an asshole.

    Kokichi’s Grape Panta February 5, 2024 8:18 am
    Victim blame on what really? He accepted the job, he got the money he needed. U saying? csalone17

    Babes, transactional relationships do not warrant physical abuse (as shown in the most recent chapters) nor do they warrant financial abuse. And before you claim their relationship isn’t an example of economical or financial abuse I implore you to first search up the definitions of financial and economical abuse. Dan not having a choice but to accept JK’s offer and then putting him into a situation where he’s dependent on him for safety, financial resources, and a home is abuse and is not justified because of the context as well as the circumstances of the situation at hand. Your contrarian sympathizer ideologies do not change that.